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Philocybin
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The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong?
#23357226 - 06/18/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My first mushroom trip was with mushrooms I grew as well, and it was almost 2 grams (1.8 grams exactly) and it was a great experience, but there were no visuals. Things got a little breathey I supposed, but that's it. My second trip was last night, and I drank 5 grams in tea. I had smoked some weed earlier on that day if that makes a difference. I've heard some say that it ruins it, others have said it intensifies the experience. Around our 4 I decided to redose another 1.5. I did and it kind of just prolonged what was already happening. It was l like being extremely high, but even on such a high dose there were barely any visuals at all. I was scatterbrained and found it hard to concentrate, but I attribute that more to the weed that I'd started to smoke around hour 4 out of sheer boredom. My question is, and the reason I posted this in cultivation is, is there something I could have done wrong during the growing process to make this go so wrong? Is it just the spores? My dose was both Costa Rica Cubes as well as Golden Teacher Cubes. I can't imagine both spore sets were this unlucky. I used the standard brf tek.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357234 - 06/18/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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luck of the draw using spores. any variety has potential. every two spores that gets together is a strain so you grow 100s of strains in a single PF cake if you use spores. if you get into agar your can clone mushrooms and then start only growing potent B+ or potent costa or potent GT for instance.
weed doesn't do shit to a mushroom trip before during and after. I smoke it out of habit during tripping, you wont even feel like you're getting high until an hour or two after it totally wears off at least for me
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23357242 - 06/18/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah, I see. This is my first flush, and I've heard that the first isn't the best. Maybe I'll have better luck on the second after I've dunked and rolled the cakes? Idk, it was kind of a let down.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357245 - 06/18/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My first trip was also 4 days ago. I know the rule of thumb is to wait a week, but from what I've read (and this could be bs, I don't really know) 4 days is more than enough time to make sure you aren't tolerant.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357252 - 06/18/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/editpost.php?Cat=0&Board=2&Number=23357242&page=0&what=showflat&vc=1
before you post twice in a row you can do that
2 days is more than enough time, 4 is plenty. a whole week is kind of ridiculous.
the subsequent flushes are not better or worse. the shrooms are usually a bit bigger but potency can vary by huge margins from fruit to fruit even on the same cake
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357290 - 06/18/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Were they dried properly cracker dry? If not it can affect potency and throw off the weight as well.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23357317 - 06/18/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You really don't get hardcore visuals until you start taking higher doses. Anything lower than 5 grams of a normal dose of cubes you'd be lucky to get some wiggly action and distorted vision. But it sounds like you have pretty high expectations, come back down to earth. Enjoy the trip you get, because every one is beautiful and will bring to light something new in your life.
/hippierant
But seriously, if you want to see some real shit, try dropping 10 grams next time. Or grow a higher level trip inducer like PE or APE or pans
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23357404 - 06/18/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I dried them until they were couldn't be bent with cracking, which is what I assume everyone means by cracker dry. And I don't think my expectation are too high in this case. I wasn't even getting closed eye visuals. I did walk around town a little on the come up, and got thrown into a pretty strange social situation. I just wanted a drink but ended up being introduced to people I didn't know. All went well, but I did have to focus alot of energy on staying in the present. Maybe I killed it for myself?
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357412 - 06/18/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Philocybin said: Yes, I dried them until they were couldn't be bent with cracking, which is what I assume everyone means by cracker dry. And I don't think my expectation are too high in this case. I wasn't even getting closed eye visuals. I did walk around town a little on the come up, and got thrown into a pretty strange social situation. I just wanted a drink but ended up being introduced to people I didn't know. All went well, but I did have to focus alot of energy on staying in the present. Maybe I killed it for myself?
That can happen. Sometimes the peak can kinda slide past you. Especially if the environment you are in is out of whack.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23357743 - 06/18/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said: But seriously, if you want to see some real shit, try dropping 10 grams next time. Or grow a higher level trip inducer like PE or APE or pans
You are setting this dude up hard man... Also @ "higher level trip inducer". Wtf...
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23357770 - 06/18/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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SloppyJoseph said: But seriously, if you want to see some real shit, try dropping 10 grams next time. Or grow a higher level trip inducer like PE or APE or pans
You are setting this dude up hard man... Also @ "higher level trip inducer". Wtf...
 
Just eat mushrooms on an empty stomach until you are full. That will be a nice dose.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23357792 - 06/18/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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SloppyJoseph said: But seriously, if you want to see some real shit, try dropping 10 grams next time. Or grow a higher level trip inducer like PE or APE or pans
You are setting this dude up hard man... Also @ "higher level trip inducer". Wtf...
I couldn't think of the way that people describe them.... I'm not always a wordsmith such as yourself. Especially cause I'm a little out of it
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23357794 - 06/18/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ya know, I was just thinking... I don't know if you've heard of Ram Das... But he's basically a monk, or a spiritual leader in the East. He had close ties with Terrance Mckenna. There are videos with them both talking on Youtube, and it's pretty great stuff actually. Anywho, he took 5 grams of shrooms and felt nothing, and the idea is that he was so clear-headed already, so enlightened, that mushrooms just didn't do anything to him. Ya don't think....
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357801 - 06/18/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I call BS, you can't enlighten yourself out of neurotransmitter function alteration.
there's a story a zen master had been dosed with LSD he called the experience stupid
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Philocybin]
#23357803 - 06/18/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Philocybin said: Ya know, I was just thinking... I don't know if you've heard of Ram Das... But he's basically a monk, or a spiritual leader in the East. He had close ties with Terrance Mckenna. There are videos with them both talking on Youtube, and it's pretty great stuff actually. Anywho, he took 5 grams of shrooms and felt nothing, and the idea is that he was so clear-headed already, so enlightened, that mushrooms just didn't do anything to him. Ya don't think....
I do in fact think that's a bunch of bullshit. Psilocin has a physiological effect. It's not just pre-packaged enlightenment/clarity. Dude had bunk mushrooms.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23357811 - 06/18/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol yeah I've doubted the story myself :'D and I did here a retelling, so the dude may have even gotten the story wrong.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23357812 - 06/18/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I personally think hallucinogenics have absolutely zero to do with spirituality and zen shit. some people just enjoy being outside and seeing nature in a new way that they otherwise had not. or they think about shit they don't want to think about. you gain no insight into your purpose in the world eating drugs
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23357823 - 06/18/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's nothing to stop you coincidentally falling upon actual realizations that the drugs just led you into a better mindset to find. Let's not downplay the fact that they can help people sort their shit.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23357830 - 06/18/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think they help people with their "work ethic for life" in general sure. only mushrooms though, acid or DMT for instance I don't think help people with shit
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23357848 - 06/18/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well you're awfully opinionated on the matter... I find acid a clearer headspace to self-reflect in than mushrooms. Acid scared me into getting my shit together a lot more than mushrooms ever did. They're extremely similar and the long effect times help give you enough time to actually integrate. Sounds like DMT is difficult as fuck to take anything back from given the short duration.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23357866 - 06/18/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Well you're awfully opinionated on the matter... I find acid a clearer headspace to self-reflect in than mushrooms. Acid scared me into getting my shit together a lot more than mushrooms ever did. They're extremely similar and the long effect times help give you enough time to actually integrate. Sounds like DMT is difficult as fuck to take anything back from given the short duration.
I can barely remember anything about a deep DMT trip let alone have it change my life
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23357871 - 06/18/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I remember it's badass, that's about it
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23357966 - 06/18/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: I remember it's badass, that's about it
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? (moved) [Re: Philocybin]
#23357996 - 06/18/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: Eat your mushrooms freshly picked and on an empty stomach for maximum potency.
Here is your proper forum for this discussion.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? (moved) [Re: george castanza]
#23358101 - 06/18/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Uh... you don't technically get stronger mushrooms by starving yourself, there is actual technique involved that is cultivation related. I mean, whatever, we can talk about cloning and strain isolation in here I guess.
-Grow mushrooms from spores -Take clones of many mushrooms, test all the ones you cloned, keeping track of which plates belong to which clones. -Grow out the clone belonging to the strongest mushroom -???? -Profit (in terms of personal growth and understanding of course)
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
#23358118 - 06/18/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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the effects just come on stronger is all, if you're empty stomached.
either way I do tea with a few drops of citric acid(lemon or lime) and no matter how full or not you are it hits fast.
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Re: The Mushrooms I Grew Are Weak, Any Ideas as to What I Did Wrong? (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23358127 - 06/18/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've noticed that too. Made tea after a dinner where I got seconds and thirds, still hit like a ton of bricks.
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