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Naekro
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HBWR 12 seeds trip
#23356793 - 06/18/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So about two weeks ago I've consumed about 12 seeds. I tried some extraction methods before but did not feel anything, so this time I decided just to put them into warm water, remove some white scurf, crush and hold it in my mouth. 15 minutes after I've lost my patience and just swallowed them (before that I was thinking to hold them for more time and to spit them out). I must say that at that moment I did not really expect any significant result, even more the idea itself to try this seeds again came out quite spontaneously.
So after some time I started to feel the effect of the seeds, however I cannot call this effect psychedelic: I started acting like a child: was rolling naked on the floor, running, jumping, tossing pillow with my legs. Shortly after I begun noticing something similar to visuals - they looked like traces of tires made in air. It all has lasted for about 1,5 hours, and after this I felt a strong urge to vomit It was the strongest nausea I've ever had, at times I was seriously scared for my life and was considering to call for emergency. Sometimes I had a feeling of invisible giant hand was trying to squeeze all the guts out of me.
So I was laying for about 2 hours near the toilet and by that time visual perception was altering with progressing intensity. At times objects (like water running from the shower) looked pixel'd like in old 3D games. After about two hours I've finally stopped puking and felt better in general. I felt purification, both physically and mentally. I've got a feeling of clarity (but not like on LSD when your thoughts endlessly morph into each others). I think I understood something important about my life. So after nausea has been over I started to feel the peak of the trip. I've had very interesting visuals, more similar to DMT but less intense and short - I could describe some of them as multiple rotating 3D one-eyed pyramids rolling on an invisible monorail.
I undervalued these seeds. Who could have thought that the substance, often considered as a teenager drug will let me to experience the best psychedelic trip which very much reminds of what people tell about Ayahuasca. I don't know when I will take them next time, probably not very soon, but I am really curious what it will be like to smoke some DMT on the peak.
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Naekro]
#23383671 - 06/26/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Met a god, aliens, lost everything about myself except for primal instinct, and felt my soul coming out of my body on LSA. it is definitely vrry underestimated. I thought it'd be like LSD when I tried it. Was very similar to shrooms in a way (I even started tasting shrooms in my mouth after awhile) but wth it's own little quirks and a bit more intense. Puking was horrible, felt like I was getting stabbed in the stomach by a heated knife while also getting squished by an elephant. Everytime I puked it also seemed to make me trip harder too. Was really weird too, had absolutely nothing in my stomach but I was projectile vomitin more substance than what I would hav if I ate a huge 5 course meal.
Edited by UniverseOfTheMind8 (06/26/16 10:59 AM)
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Naekro]
#23386518 - 06/27/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The puking and stomach pains sounds horrible from LSA. You should just use a good extraction which really isn't that hard to do, this is an extraction that I'm going to try this week.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nausea-free_LSA_extraction
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Nizmo]
#23386578 - 06/27/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Glad you shared that i bought some a little while ago and plan to try a few soon hopefully wont get nausea if do this then!
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In my experience theres nothing that can prevent LSA nausea except strong 5ht3 antagonists like ondansetron or something similar
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Actually it's not the LSA that causes the nausea and discomfort.
It's the cyanogenic glycosides in the seeds that cause it.
So if you extract it you should not have any discomfort at all
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Nizmo]
#23386822 - 06/27/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nizmo said: Actually it's not the LSA that causes the nausea and discomfort.
It's the cyanogenic glycosides in the seeds that cause it.
So if you extract it you should not have any discomfort at all 
Thats only a rumor. Nobody has ever been able to give any proof to support this claim. The most plausible theory right now is that the nausea is caused by the 5ht3 agonism of the LSA itself.
Ive tried LSA a couple of times with or without extraction didnt make any difference on the nausea imo
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Nizmo]
#23386917 - 06/27/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nizmo said: The puking and stomach pains sounds horrible from LSA. You should just use a good extraction which really isn't that hard to do, this is an extraction that I'm going to try this week.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nausea-free_LSA_extraction
I tried this method the very first time and basically did not feel anything. I believe that nausea and vomiting are the part of trip and should be like that just like "La Purga" during Ayahuasca ceremony. Also it's quite debatable whether it's LSA itself which makes you trip or some other ergynes these seeds contain.
I just wonder can those seeds be really dangerous and deadly and if so what is approx. lethal dose then?
Edited by Naekro (06/27/16 08:10 AM)
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Naekro]
#23387128 - 06/27/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Id imagine that they could be pretty nasty in very high doses due to the severe vasoconstriction
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Naekro]
#23387195 - 06/27/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Naekro said:
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Nizmo said: The puking and stomach pains sounds horrible from LSA. You should just use a good extraction which really isn't that hard to do, this is an extraction that I'm going to try this week.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nausea-free_LSA_extraction
I tried this method the very first time and basically did not feel anything. I believe that nausea and vomiting are the part of trip and should be like that just like "La Purga" during Ayahuasca ceremony. Also it's quite debatable whether it's LSA itself which makes you trip or some other ergynes these seeds contain.
I just wonder can those seeds be really dangerous and deadly and if so what is approx. lethal dose then?
You did not feel anything? So this extraction method does not work? Or is there any chance that you did it wrong or maybe had some bad seeds? I will try this method soon and find out I guess
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I recommend 200, but absolutely no more than 300. My first trip on them which I vaguely described up above was 500, and ended up being to overwhelming
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Naekro
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Nizmo]
#23387344 - 06/27/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nizmo said:
You did not feel anything? So this extraction method does not work? Or is there any chance that you did it wrong or maybe had some bad seeds? I will try this method soon and find out I guess 
I might felt some kind of drunkness you usually feel on shrooms but very weak. And this was the same batch of seeds I tripped on recently, so maybe I did something wrong but this method seems too simple to do any mistakes so somehow I think it just doesn't work
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Naekro]
#23387662 - 06/27/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea it's really an easy tek. Will let you know if it worked or not when I have tried it
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Re: HBWR 12 seeds trip [Re: Nizmo]
#23387705 - 06/27/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok, will stay tuned
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LSA is a great psychedelic. I do a cwe with HBWR for LSA
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I got really fucked up on ambien once and ate 12 of these. I don't know if I tripped or not, but I eventually blacked out and woke up 5 hours later to puke my guts out for the next day. Good example of how not to do drugs. I ended up planting the rest of the seeds and have a happy little vine now.
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