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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: kakashi68] 1
#23356111 - 06/17/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: plis cry some more angry murican. Once again proves you just spout random crap you know nothing about. Licensed firearms are safe because it means morons cant go and buy them on a whim.
Since your so angry yourself... maybe your the real fry cook whos mad at life...
A junkie Stralian fry cook with a gun. It doesnt take a crystal ball to see that this wont end well.
Stupid Hans, please turn your weapon over to the nearest authorities, its not safe in your hands, somebody could get hurt. Also you need to pull your fries before they start burning.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: koods] 1
#23356121 - 06/17/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: We've had mass shootings on military bases and recruiting stations.
military baees are gun free zones, just like the recruiting offices
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In all cases there were people with guns who could do nothing.
bullshit, the only ones armed there were the shooters
unless of course you want to show us where the liberal, muslim terrorist at fort hood wasnt the only one armed while he was murdering people. who else had a gun there koods? who was armed at the recruiting offices
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
#23356203 - 06/17/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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My take as an evul liberal is that I've never had the desire or need of a gun, and if they magically disappeared over night, I certainly wouldn't shed a tear. Having said that, though, I don't think prohibition of them is the answer. Ownership of firearms is in the constitution in no uncertain terms, after all. Besides this, we all know how well prohibition works (like not at all). And to add, I've no problems with responsible gun ownership.
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http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2015/jul/31/returning-fire-navy-officer-confirms-he-shot/317455/
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When Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez attacked the U.S. Naval and Marine Reserve Center on July 16 with a handgun and an assault rifle, Navy Lt. Cmdr. Tim White opened fire.
White used his personal weapon to try to fend off Abdulazeez, he confirmed to the Times Free Press on Thursday. Abdulazeez killed four Marines and a Navy specialist in the brazen daytime attack.
There was an armed cop at the front of pulse.
Waiting for your excuses why these don't count.
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Le_Canard said: My take as an evul liberal is that I've never had the desire or need of a gun, and if they magically disappeared over night, I certainly wouldn't shed a tear. Having said that, though, I don't think prohibition of them is the answer. Ownership of firearms is in the constitution in no uncertain terms, after all. Besides this, we all know how well prohibition works (like not at all). And to add, I've no problems with responsible gun ownership.
Ownership of certain weapons are protected. Ar-15s are not. Machine guns have essentially been banned for decades. That ban works pretty well. We don't have a lot of mass machine gunnings, do we?
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: koods]
#23356229 - 06/17/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Heh, just give it time.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: koods] 1
#23356282 - 06/17/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: My take as an evul liberal is that I've never had the desire or need of a gun, and if they magically disappeared over night, I certainly wouldn't shed a tear. Having said that, though, I don't think prohibition of them is the answer. Ownership of firearms is in the constitution in no uncertain terms, after all. Besides this, we all know how well prohibition works (like not at all). And to add, I've no problems with responsible gun ownership.
Ownership of certain weapons are protected. Ar-15s are not. Machine guns have essentially been banned for decades. That ban works pretty well. We don't have a lot of mass machine gunnings, do we?
No, we don't, we see people use the ar-15 currently. If we ban the AR-15, they will use another gun, and you will cry to infringe further on American's second amendment rights.
The fact of the whole debate is I could kill more people with a glock and a 100 round drum mag like shown:

Hell, I would venture to say most could kill more people with that glock pictured than banned machine guns. Why would you go full auto into a crowd? I would expect less dead victims that way than semi automatic targeted fire.
The reasons these assholes keep using AR's is because it's like the Honda of guns right now it's actually less dangerous than that glock and less concealable.
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I really wonder though... it truly is a culture issue which is perpetuated by bad gun laws. Murica is a very individualistic culture that is only there for everyone to help themselves. Very little is done to help the community.
In other cultures if someone is having trouble in life, they reach out and get help. Or otherwise people might even notice and help them. So instead of someone brooding for years and slowly going insane and mass murdering. People get professional help and deal with a small issue. Now this works to certain regards in certain countries but generally the more individualistic the culture the worse it is.
A good mix between individualism and collectivism makes for the best country.
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This guy could take out a thousand ppl with a revolver in 60 seconds and those would be the last things to be banned.. GL banning what I already own as far as assault rifles go
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: liloldme]
#23356622 - 06/18/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Unless you are for all out banning all guns and gun confiscation, gun free zones will continue to result in more deaths, it's an undisputed fact
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: liloldme]
#23356628 - 06/18/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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liloldme said: This guy could take out a thousand ppl with a revolver in 60 seconds and those would be the last things to be banned.. GL banning what I already own as far as assault rifles go
Why you have an assault rifle? you can't really say self-defense now can you?
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There is no question America has a culture that is highly perverse and dysfunctional in many ways , and the unmatched levels of gun homicide is surely part of that .
From a Canadian perspective allowing people to own hand guns is far more troubling then AR 15s. Handguns kill far more people and are far more dangerous because of how concealable they are .
To me it makes sense to allow people to own weapons large enough to not be concealable .
Americas gun violence is obscene . However, there is one fact I consider morally indisputable .
A government can never take away the ability to protect your own life unless they can guarantee your safety.
They can't, so they must not.
The government can not keep you safe from being murdered and therefore they have no right to take away your ability to protect yourself .
Personally I feel like Canada's gun laws are the right balance . We can own rifles and shotguns if we take the appropriate training but can't own handguns.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23357256 - 06/18/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: There is no question America has a culture that is highly perverse and dysfunctional in many ways , and the unmatched levels of gun homicide is surely part of that .
From a Canadian perspective allowing people to own hand guns is far more troubling then AR 15s. Handguns kill far more people and are far more dangerous because of how concealable they are .
To me it makes sense to allow people to own weapons large enough to not be concealable .
Americas gun violence is obscene . However, there is one fact I consider morally indisputable .
A government can never take away the ability to protect your own life unless they can guarantee your safety.
They can't, so they must not.
The government can not keep you safe from being murdered and therefore they have no right to take away your ability to protect yourself .
Personally I feel like Canada's gun laws are the right balance . We can own rifles and shotguns if we take the appropriate training but can't own handguns.
The very large majority of gun violence in the US is gang related, if they want to shoot themselves on the inner city streets, so be it.
For the most part, the gun violence is isolated and doesn't effect 99.9% of US citizens. Why should I worry about it?
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: qman] 1
#23357259 - 06/18/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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American gangs are dangerous because this country is flooded with guns. Toronto has a big gang problem.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: koods]
#23357309 - 06/18/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: American gangs are dangerous because this country is flooded with guns. Toronto has a big gang problem.
American gangs are dangerous because they're criminal in nature, these gangs don't get together to read poetry and drink tea.
They steal, car jack, physically assault, sexually assault, rape, and intimidate others just fine without guns.
If you think they would be a bunch of boy scouts without guns, you're sadly mistaken.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: qman]
#23357344 - 06/18/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could it be that your gangs are so physically violent, guns are all over the country and you havent had a single day without being in a war YOU started since World War 2, are somehow related?
Could it be that your oligarchy is a bit, well, violent in nature?
Compared to Holland you guys are SO VIOLENT. Its in your nature as a culture to meet adversity with aggression, and thats saying it nicely.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Asante]
#23357352 - 06/18/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asante said: Could it be that your gangs are so physically violent, guns are all over the country and you havent had a single day without being in a war YOU started since World War 2, are somehow related?
Could it be that your oligarchy is a bit, well, violent in nature?
Compared to Holland you guys are SO VIOLENT. Its in your nature as a culture to meet adversity with aggression, and thats saying it nicely.
America started the first gulf war?
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Asante]
#23357357 - 06/18/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Asante said: Could it be that your gangs are so physically violent, guns are all over the country and you havent had a single day without being in a war YOU started since World War 2, are somehow related?
Could it be that your oligarchy is a bit, well, violent in nature?
Compared to Holland you guys are SO VIOLENT. Its in your nature as a culture to meet adversity with aggression, and thats saying it nicely.
America started the first gulf war?
Did Iraq invade South Carolina?
Or did they invade Kuwait, where your oligarchy has economic interests, you guys jumped on top of it like a sumo wrestler on a barking cocker spaniel, with unspeakable overkill and savage sanctions did incredible damage and then, oh surprise! Pulled the fuck out of there when the marines were at Saddam's palace gates?
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: qman] 1
#23357405 - 06/18/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gang related yes- and the typical method of settling gang beef involves drive by shootings and gunfights in the streets- which kill Innocent by standers all the time
Mistaken identity, spraying the block with bullets etc - innocents and children get killed in gang related shootings all the time Pretending it only effects the guilty is pure nonsense
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