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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: pirate-blues]
#23358279 - 06/18/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like how you assume I dont know any non English people. Sorry yes they do have some decent people but the Amish are the most extreme of their sect. Clearly the Amish couldnt spread beyond PA with out GPS 
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: trekie]
#23358311 - 06/18/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not talking specifically about you, I just mean people in general. I don't doubt you've had negative personal experiences. And yes I know they're all over the place, I just live near an area with one of the highest concentrations of amish and mennonites in the world, with the quakers thrown in there for good mix.
They're so spread out that you just can't generalize even if you don't like the way they live their lives.
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: pirate-blues]
#23358320 - 06/18/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like math so please look at the statistics of the most zealots and let me know what you find. Im not trying to be a jerk or break rules just pointing out the truth..........
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: pirate-blues] 2
#23358329 - 06/18/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see the same thing with Muslims. Their customs are very different, and I certainly disagree with the way women are treated......but I work with Muslims & all the ones I know are super nice, respectful individuals. Humble, appreciative, etc. they're not at all the way the extremists make them seem, or the way that they're protrayed by many folks here. It drives me fucking to see people bitch & moan about being marginalized, oppressed, looked down on for their lifestyles......only to turn around & do the same thing to groups that they're ignorant about. Like hippie vegans that complain about chemicals, GMOs, animal rights.....all while doing ketamine, MDMA, cocaine & all sorts of other drugs. That shit grinds my gears.
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: Dark_Star]
#23358363 - 06/18/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Statistics that pertain to what?
I don't even know what you're arguing. I don't like religious zealots either, but as long as they're not killing or physically harming anyone then they're entitled to live however they want to live.
The amish people in this story and any others that have broken the law, or hurt people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of it.
But if we're talking religious extremism and the immediate threat posed to society, the amish are low on that list. They're completely alienated from modern society whereas other religious extremists are trying to engrain themselves in society with the belief that everyone needs to follow their life style. Other people get killed trying to leave religions and cults, the amish just shun the fuck out of nonbelievers.
I'm not defending their beliefs, any wrongdoings they commit, I'm just defending their right to religious freedom as long as it's within the confines of the law - like, they don't even take advantage of their tax exempt status as a church. I just don't really understand what point you're trying to argue in general? that religion is bad? Serious question, I'm just confused
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Dark_Star said: I see the same thing with Muslims. Their customs are very different, and I certainly disagree with the way women are treated......but I work with Muslims & all the ones I know are super nice, respectful individuals. Humble, appreciative, etc. they're not at all the way the extremists make them seem, or the way that they're protrayed by many folks here. It drives me fucking to see people bitch & moan about being marginalized, oppressed, looked down on for their lifestyles......only to turn around & do the same thing to groups that they're ignorant about. Like hippie vegans that complain about chemicals, GMOs, animal rights.....all while doing ketamine, MDMA, cocaine & all sorts of other drugs. That shit grinds my gears.
same. Moderate muslims are very very different from the extremists, I've only known moderate muslims, families where the daughters didn't wear hijabs because they didn't want to(even if they did it's not my right to say they shouldn't), always incredibly hospitable and nice, never said a word about what other people should believe or how they should live.
You don't have to like or agree with everything other people do and trying to make the world abide by your own personal beliefs is futile, arrogant, and at it's worst, evil - even if your beliefs are objectively less crazy than someone elses.
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: pirate-blues]
#23358922 - 06/18/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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vandago said: The Amish man.
The Amish generally are pretty okay minus the puppy mills - but the mennonites and the quakers are way more chill. The quakers in particular are super cool and open minded.
They all make really fucking delicious food and peddle high quality wares for relatively cheap, and they're fine business people.
This guy was clearly an outcast - he was probably shunned from the amish community.
Mennonites are not fucking chill. They are the opposite of chill. I'd take an amish person over a mennonite any day. Fucking sad, cheap, greedy, dour, fat, pointless life pigs. They teach a level of misery and guilt that would make a Catholic blush.
Trust me, I dated an ex-Mennonite, her family was fucking awful. On the surface they might seem chill but behind closed doors they are awful human beings
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: bloodsheen]
#23358924 - 06/18/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Much like the Amish
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: trekie]
#23358935 - 06/18/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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trekie said: Much like the Amish 
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I hate the Amish too. But Mennonites often get a pass because they are allowed to drive cars and shit. The Amish are actually pretty devout and prefer to be left alone. Mennonites get their greasy fucking paws all over everything in the Susq Valley and then to trick other religious people and Mennonites into purchasing things from them, they call themselves a "Christian" business, which is code for "We like white conservatives and would prefer if everyone else would stay away, unless you have a lot of money."
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: vinsue]
#23359676 - 06/19/16 01:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: Great Scott]
#23359706 - 06/19/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Drunkity drunk wrong thread
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Edited by Nitrous Monkey (06/19/16 03:21 AM)
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Re: 12 Girls Found In Bucks County Home, Man Charged With Sex Assault [Re: Great Scott]
#23361255 - 06/19/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
Much like the Amish .
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