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shitakigirl
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OMG OMG
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I'm so excited. 5 days in the FC and we have pins 
I really didn't think it was going to happen because I have not seen any hyphal knots just some aerial mycelium down near the bottom.
But there they are WOOT!!!


It looks like there are one or 2 pins on each of the 8 cakes.
Do you keep misting and fanning when the pins start?
Thanks everyone!
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Crixalis
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From the limited experience I have i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to directly mist the pins. Keep the FAE frequent but don't over do it. Maybe once a day or every other day.
I'll wait for a more experienced member to chime in.
Nice work! You'll be able to enjoy those very soon.
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Crixalis said: From the limited experience I have i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to directly mist the pins. Keep the FAE frequent but don't over do it. Maybe once a day or every other day.
I'll wait for a more experienced member to chime in.
Nice work! You'll be able to enjoy those very soon. 
FAE is constant, usually via holes, you don't "give FAE", and she should certainly mist the pins directly, they're thirsty. If your experience is limited to the point you think FAE can be "frequent" then maybe uh.. you know... read a bit? 
Cut back misting about ~24 hours prior to harvest to avoid waterlogged fruits or extended drying times.
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Crixalis
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GreenRabbit said: Fanning does not provided FAE either.
it is putting fresh air in the FC while moving the CO2 out...
FRESH AIR in EXCHANGE for carbon dioxide..
it is essentially a fresh air exchange..
I appreciate you correcting me but you see where this becomes blurry, no?
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dankington
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No. It's not blurry, you're simply incorrect. It's okay, though. Happens to the best of us sometimes.
FAE is a constant exchange. Not when you think of it every couple of days. This literally can be the difference between a good flush and a measly one.
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shitakigirl
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I got holes galore and my FC is 3" off the table so FAE should be engaged 
The thing I fret about is moisture. My cakes never seem to be "glistening" so I have been mainly misting first thing in the a.m and the last thing at night. Fanning a few times during the day.
Mostly just giving them love
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dankington
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Don't even fan 'em.
It can only cause problems, ok?  Keep it up!
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shitakigirl
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No fanning? That is the first I have heard that!
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Myko Fanatikos
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From what I've read and from personal experience misting them directly without fanning will cause more aborts.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't mist or fan my monotubs anymore and I'm yet to use any kind d of casing
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dankington
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DO NOT FAN, PLEASE.
This was what people did back when they thought mushrooms like dark, dank habitats with stagnant air, but needed pinning. Pinning mostly triggered by surface evaporation.
If you have an SGFC or a dialed-in mono, you have FAE going at all times. Fanning can only stress out your substrate. If you'd like I can bring a team of people here to say the same.
Myco Fan, if you are getting aborts from misting and not fanning, you're over-misting 
You can drown mushrooms and mycelium just like you can drown plants.
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Inocuole
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If you mist exactly the right amount you don't really have to fan to jumpstart evaporation. Give it 2 minutes and it'll have done it itself.
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bodhisatta 
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fanning is almost pointless, and totally unnecessary
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LocN9ne
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I also am a part of the no fanning gang... Pointless.
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SloppyJoseph
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I'll just reiterate for OPs understanding
Don't fan
Dont overmist
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Profit
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Munchauzen


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shitakigirl said: No fanning? That is the first I have heard that! 
don't fan here chiming in as well
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Inocuole
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For the record dankington didn't actually bring anybody here, if he had done so there would be even more people saying the same.
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dankington
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Inocuole said: For the record dankington didn't actually bring anybody here, if he had done so there would be even more people saying the same.
right? crazy how that happened.
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This is just a little culmination of some common misinformation that everyone is trying to eradicate...
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Inocuole
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Well I mean, technically, if we used the crappy fruiting chambers of yesteryear, fanning really would be beneficial and make a difference. It's just not in line with current best practices.
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shitakigirl
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Well that makes my life easier - no fanning
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LocN9ne
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shitakigirl said: Well that makes my life easier - no fanning 
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Inocuole
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Are you guys like, surprised she's not giving any pushback? Is that how it is now?
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shitakigirl
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OK.... no more fanning yesterday then this morning I opened up the FC and gave one little fan (it was indoctrination you know and hard to shake). It's all out of my system now! 
Most cakes now have 5-6 little pins.
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YAY! PINS! And a lady cultivator, we need more of those. 
I fan my subs every hour and I always spray them with h202 5 times a day. You all are noobs who don't know how to grow mushrooms. I also use a drip shield and mist only the walls of the FC because mushrooms don't like water.

Edit:
I should probably say that the above was all just bullshit, for the newbies' sake.
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jerseyian
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Nice you guys. So, If I am NOT using a SGFC I would want to fan though right? I can see it being pointless in a SGFC. I have used an sgfc and am gonna make one for my PE grow in a few weeks. I think SGFC's are the shizit!
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There is nothing better to use than a SGFC or a monotub. If you are using a PMP or some outdated shit like that, then yes, fanning might be beneficial. I just don't see why you should make a sub-par fruiting chamber so you can fan it Aren't we all for bettering our FCs and reducing maintenance?
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My first 2 tubs I had a fan in the room pointed at the wall on the opposite side and they both dried out like a mofo.
I don't fan at all, just leave the window open. I only mist 1 time after introducing into fruiting and leave it be.
Fans can only fuck things up unless the climate is insanely humid at your geographical location.
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shitakigirl
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Things are moving along swimmingly 
A couple of the cakes have 20+ pins and a few are getting pretty mushroom looking. I can't believe how fast they grow once they decide to.
Thanks again to everyone for the help. It's a relief not to have to fan - it was making me kinda neurotic lol.
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