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SFbuster
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Help identifying south florida
#23354804 - 06/17/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have found these mushrooms in a field near my house many times. Eaten them many times, only in small doses so far but I prefer small doses...so could anyone help me identify whether they are pans Cyans or cubes? I believe they are blue meanies but I figured I would ask the experts. Also the smaller ones are fresher and are definitely bruising blue. The bigger ones I'm not sure about and will likely throw away due to safety concerns. Both the younger and older ones had black spore prints.

Cap- smooth but not slimy, most are brown near the tip and white as you go down.
No hymen on any.
Stem- originally white, smooth, slightly hollow but not totally.
Spore print- black, dark purple
Habitat- cow dung
Bruising- the smaller ones bruised blue but as you see the bigger ones I would say bruised brown? Then began getting a little blue mixed with the brown.
Gills- smaller one dark grey, probably didn't drop their spores yet to turn them darker.
Let me know what you guys think and should I trash the bigger ones that bruised brown even though they look so similar to the smaller ones that bruised blue? They are from different clusters which will likely make me trash them.
Pans Cyans or cubes?
To me looks most like the indoor Cyans images online.
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elprawn
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Re: Help identifying south florida [Re: SFbuster]
#23354855 - 06/17/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The ones in the first picture appear to be Panaeolus cyanescens.
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SFbuster
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Re: Help identifying south florida [Re: elprawn]
#23354864 - 06/17/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ye I figured those are pans Cyans I'm just hoping someone can confirm the ones that bruised brown could possibly still be pans Cyans because they look so much alike aside from the bruising. Based on the spore print I believe they are all edible but I only know for sure the first pictures actives
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Re: Help identifying south florida [Re: SFbuster]
#23355006 - 06/17/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The cap in the second picture looks promising, as does the one on the far right of the fourth picture. The rest seem more dubious and some of them definitely are not. Hopefully someone with a better eye than me can say for sure.
They're all clearly Panaeolus of some variety, and not Panaeolina, which make the spore print academic in this case.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Help identifying south florida [Re: SFbuster]
#23355117 - 06/17/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Panaeolus cyanescens
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elprawn
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: Panaeolus cyanescens
Surely not all of them? I thought some looked closer to P. antillarum, but I'm not an expert on tropical Panaeolus.
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SFbuster
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Ye I think they probably are all pans Cyans. The brown bruising definitely looks more blue now but likely happened because they were on the verge of being too old...?
The biggest one being too old. It probably been out there a couple days
Edited by SFbuster (06/17/16 04:14 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Help identifying south florida [Re: elprawn]
#23359078 - 06/18/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
elprawn said:
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Alan Rockefeller said: Panaeolus cyanescens
Surely not all of them?
Yes, all of them.
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