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With amanita i tried 3.5g then 10g with little effect but some, was more in following days i felt different in some ways. I Have since taken 20g twice with much more luck, though feels like i was dreaming with good recollection. I did a report for one but i havent wrote the other yet as was only this last sunday. Ive yet to recycle my water which is meant to be the way to the 'next level' - im building up to it hahahah in time i plan to combine amanita and psilocybin.
my mind definately went somewhere else and spoke with people, the last one there was a woman with these small oval brown stone eggs, each had a symbol on and she told me i have to go and find them all.
Im trying to get some psilocybin to try soon its been years, and will be receiving some mescaline cactus soon as ive not tried mescaline as yet. Im really interested in trying micro doses of this.
I tried 1p-lsd a few times but i seem to favour the natural things best, 1p felt like more fun and less spiritual to me so not sure how i feel with that. Ive got some hawaian baby woodrose to try and see what does for me and as i say i have all i need for ayahuasca but im not sure on doing it alone
I also have salvia ready to try. Lots of things still to try alongside learning meditation techniques and trying to learn how to journey and so forth. Is a slow process, trying to improve intuition etc.
-------------------- Mescaline Tea - the one singular occasion of my entire life I cooked for 9 hours The trick is to be yourself, in a world trying to make you like everyone else
 
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Rainbowmedicine


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Re: Shamanism and psilocybin [Re: Spellbound]
#23359945 - 06/19/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm with you, Graceful, in feeling that it's not necessary to be constantly tripping. Sometimes it's good to 'go to the well for water', as it were, but not all the time. Shamanic techniques that have been developed over centuries, include many non-plant induced paths to ecstasy, as I'm sure you know. There are plenty of ways by which we can induce our bodies to produce DMT, and they are all great fun. I do have a sense though, that McKenna is on to something, when he equates the mushrooms with human evolution, and when he talks of psilocybin as an exopheremone, secreted by the plant world in order to facilitate a symbiosis between us and them. To that end, I think we have an on-switch, that they press. No off-switch. Once we have taken them, that's it, job done. Mick
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I am hopeful as i use different things and practice training my mind and so forth that ill be able to achieve things without using an entheogen, but i guess time will tell, and i think will always need some to go certain places, but its all experimenting at the moment. Amanita really makes me feel so tired and drunk when i use her haha! I seem to drift in and out over a few hours, and if i take notes theyre not always legible after i have found hahaha.
As for various mushrooms, yeah they seem to act as an on switch dont they. Some great books written too more focused on amanita that ive enjoyed readying, allegro, james arthur, ruck, and clark heinrich have done some great work.
Id love to go to Peru and try ayah under proper supervision and guidance! But alas i am poor and i think ayah is technically illegal now with the blanket ban, which is just crazy!
-------------------- Mescaline Tea - the one singular occasion of my entire life I cooked for 9 hours The trick is to be yourself, in a world trying to make you like everyone else
 
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AuroraBorealis88
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Rainbowmedicine said: Personally, I think my own approach is informed by the intelligence of the psilocybin, the great teacher. Does anyone else share this thinking with me?
Yes and for me psilocybin has been a very sacred and ascetic experience. I haven't taken it in a few years though so now currently my only source of shamanic practices and attitudes involves cannabis. Not hashish or other concentrates but actual cannabis flower.
Another poster mentioned how psychedelics for many are fun and it isn't required to take a high dose of anything which is true. But for me ever since having certain experiences it has become increasingly impossible to use these things for fun in the slightest way. They seem to have no recreational value for me anymore they are just spiritual sacred tools.
Now even the smallest dose of psilocybin can take me to other realms and paradigm shattering metaphysical superspaces. It works could with hash too and with candles lit in darkness.
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Rainbowmedicine


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Hi Aurora. I don't smoke weed anymore, haven't for years. But I find that I can access those spaces by drumming, dancing, meditating, chanting, lots of ways. Lucid dreaming too. I feel that, when the hippies called it being turned on, they were very accurate. No off switch, just an on switch. Once it has been switched on, that's it for life. You will always be able to go there, via whichever route. Like you, it's a sacred act for me, to be done with respect and humility. Not solemnity though! These are matters of spirit. Once in a while, I get the call. Terrence McKenna described it like this: 'I require the nervous system of a mammal. Do you have one handy?'
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Rainbowmedicine said: Personally, I think my own approach is informed by the intelligence of the psilocybin, the great teacher. Does anyone else share this thinking with me?
Yes and for me psilocybin has been a very sacred and ascetic experience. I haven't taken it in a few years though so now currently my only source of shamanic practices and attitudes involves cannabis. Not hashish or other concentrates but actual cannabis flower.
Another poster mentioned how psychedelics for many are fun and it isn't required to take a high dose of anything which is true. But for me ever since having certain experiences it has become increasingly impossible to use these things for fun in the slightest way. They seem to have no recreational value for me anymore they are just spiritual sacred tools.
Now even the smallest dose of psilocybin can take me to other realms and paradigm shattering metaphysical superspaces. It works could with hash too and with candles lit in darkness.
I just feel sad that some people think that fun is not part OF sacredness. To me this is the psychological dualistic trap of separating 'sacred' from 'profane'
in my experience shrooms see through such a (sorry) pompous attitude by giggling my arse off
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Shamanism and psilocybin [Re: zzripz]
#23366511 - 06/21/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh my bad I meant to say they can still be fun, they just have no recreational side to them anymore. But it still can be fun.
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zzripz
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not sure I understand the difference?
How do you define 'recreational'?
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Shamanism and psilocybin [Re: zzripz]
#23366926 - 06/21/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well anything can be fun. Even rough moments and experiences can be "fun" in the end.
Recreational for me is something you can do in a recreational setting. I would never say that everything that can be fun is automatically recreational.
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Thecollective
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Personally, I think my own approach is informed by the intelligence of the psilocybin, the great teacher. Does anyone else share this thinking with me?
I do agree.
After practicing the a particular form of Jhanas meditation, I was curious if the "rumors" are true on similarity and such. Since curiosity has been satiated, I have a greater appreciation for the "teacher plants," though I still prefer connecting via meditation, I can see the great potential with alternate methods(ingested or not ie. drumming, etc.). I thought it was pretty fun "playing" games with the teacher spirit, my subconcious, dissolving, playing with perception, and experimenting with form(I found meditating whilst under profoundly deepened, amplified, as well as prolonged the experience for a crazy length of time, I ended up deciding to end it after several hours,as I was exhausted). Definitely learned alot, and it still fills me with gratitude to this day.
I do think there are alot of people out there who'd agree too on the value of the great teacher, but not too many online at the same time.
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AuroraBorealis88
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Thecollective said: I thought it was pretty fun "playing" games with the teacher spirit, my subconcious, dissolving, playing with perception, and experimenting with form(
You can play with your perception just from meditating too.
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