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ClintMassey
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: dankington]
#23389220 - 06/27/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the most accurate picture that I could find that shows what the mycelium looks when observed closely only mine is poking out in a different manner,Like I said it is all cottony and it is dense but not looking contaminated,on the photos it looks pretty different than upclose when I observe it,I had problems with bacteria before and I am convinced it is not the case here,Its the crappy phone camera that makes everything look saturated and you cant see anything clear it looks blurry so I assume that is the problem I will post pictures every day if it is contaminated it will surely be noticable by discoloration and the mycelium structure
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23389264 - 06/27/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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upload your pics to the site (top left toolbar>>Pics>>Upload)
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23389455 - 06/27/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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did the growth stall?
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23389483 - 06/27/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another vote for bacterial. It's not an assumption, it's definitely bacterial.
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ClintMassey
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: Inocuole]
#23389808 - 06/28/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Another vote for bacterial. It's not an assumption, it's definitely bacterial. 
I trust your judgement,so how much H202 3% should i dilute into how much water and spray the casing to kill the bacteria and not to harm the mycelium?
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ClintMassey
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Designer Drugs said: did the growth stall?
No its 2 days in the fruiting monotub and it s bursting,but the growth is kinda thick and I can see rhizomorphical and fuzzy mycelium by the eye but I dont know how long I have to wait to see the first pins and will it fruit if it has a bacterial contamination,what harm can it do to fruit a bacterially contaminated bulk,I only tend to use the mushrooms for spore prints anyways and testing it out,I doesnt affect anything as far as I can see personally Idk I have no problems with bacteria only mold,I ve seen some pretty bad bacterial contaminations this one is still colorless and odorless so I think I will still try to fruit them and see if I get any shrooms from what I ve got,In the best case I could cut out the pieces that looks contaminated and drip some H202 3% on the spot but that s it,I dont know can mycelium beat the bacteria and can I help in any way it would be great if it can,I know only one thing,if I burried that cakes inside a pot with some soil and water it thoroughly it would clear itself out and grow normal I did that before with sucess,I once had a big grow room with marijuana plants inside and I used to put pieces of colonized substrate in my marijuana soil and after it would spread some mycelium around and you could see it going trough the soil I would left them in dark for 12 hours and in the morning you would see little mushies growing around underneath the plants they almost looked like psilocybe semilanceata they were very thin and would dry out very fast but they would shoot out during night time just like they were growing outside it was pretty cool to see that
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23389949 - 06/28/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Another vote for bacterial. It's not an assumption, it's definitely bacterial. 
I trust your judgement,so how much H202 3% should i dilute into how much water and spray the casing to kill the bacteria and not to harm the mycelium?
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ClintMassey
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23389952 - 06/28/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found something JBL FuraPond Medication against internal and external bacterial infections Fast and effective treatment in the initial stage of ulcers, fin rot, popeyes and dropsy occurring in spring. Effective against bacteria of the strains Aeromonas, Pseudomonas, Columnaris, Flexibacter, Streptococci and others. Very well tolerated,even by crayfish. It is absorbed quickly through the gills and can be traced in all organs after only a few minutes. The active ingredient sodium nifurstyrenate is faster and stronger than antibiotics. It is sold in our local pet center and you can do a quick 30 minutes treatment with one pill in 10 liters of water I am thinking of trying that cause it should do no harm to the fungi whatsoever,but it should kill most od the bacteria that could be contaminating my mycelium what do you guys think,it is not dangerous for pond fish and it is quickly disinegrating so I thought of soaking my entire tray and then rinsing it all with a lot of water and then letting it dry out for a day or so
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23389985 - 06/28/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean if that casings will fruit eventually and the those bacterial contamination is nothing serious I will leave it as it is and pick up the caps and make some spore prints but this is my last colonies of the syzygy strain and I am not throwing it away,im gonna kill those bastards if I can and get that goddamn mushrooms so I can take spore prints even if it is the last thing I do...Like Cartman said many times "Goddamit"
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23390215 - 06/28/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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that sub was no good eh? you can just let it keep going. youll probably get some mushrooms. but it wont be ideal, and it wont be a great flush. but mushrooms are mushrooms right? good luck buddy.
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23390796 - 06/28/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bought the bactericid pills and I was thinking of dunking the whole trays in water and leaving them for an hour or so...can dunking trays damage the mycelium itself and how can I get rid of water after that much absorption,I did some researching and found that antibiotics have a promotive effect on mycelium growth so I thought to myself why not try,it will probably get rid of contam,it wont hurt the mycelium itself and it will clear itself in 5 to 7 days,if I decide to dunk the whole trays what is the easiest way to drain out the water out of the substrate though it is almost completely colonized by now,do I just let it sit without misting for a few days or would you suggest anything different
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23390824 - 06/28/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Myc isn't like animals; you can't just add antibiotics and "heal" it. Why do you think we put so much effort into cleaning samples on agar?
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ClintMassey
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: dankington]
#23391120 - 06/28/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont know but I will find out soon enoguh,I sunked it for about an hour in the antibiotic solution and a strong one I might say,it brusied a little especially on the places where I thought there was contamination,I pressed it a little with my fingers while keeping it under water and it just bruised blue like it was pure mycelium,everything seems whiter now and I rinsed it with plain water,I will sterilize the tub and put them but I will not mist until the substrate regains proper moisture,this is a pretty agressive bacticid and it penetrates everything in about 5 to 6 minutes and starts working and continues working for 5 days after that,It is kind of experimental I did some reading and found out that you can kill bacteria withoput harming the fungi and it actually benefits the fungi so we shall see,I will post pictures and I even think of casing it all with vermiculite so the mycelium doesnt poke out as hard as it did on the coco coir,it is organic no matter what so I will sterilize some vermiculite and case it all so we will see what will happen then Idk what else to say...let this be an experiment and yes myc isnt like animals but it is made of fine threads od mycelial fibers and it can absorb moisture and it has its own metabolic system the antibiotic solution wont hurt it it can only help so please stop criticising so much,I know what youre gonna say before you even say it so I get it,sterile techniques,dump it all and start again and shit but I wont and experimenting is fun too and you can learn something in the process,the active ingredient is called Nifurpirinol and it kills a whole lot of bacteria branches that other antibiotics dont even kill but only inhibit their reproductive sistem and you must inhibit the second generation and bacterias multiply every 20 minutes so it can become resistant and bla bla bla I killed the little suckers and now its only pure mycelium for sure I can promise you that
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23391156 - 06/28/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Btw I just recieved 4 new prints from psilo lab 1 Lizard King 1 Mazatapec 2 smaller B+
Im waiting for my autoclavable bags with microfilters so I wont have any more problems with contaminations in the future,and this grow I will leave as an experiment just to see can you get rid of bacterial contamination if it even was the case here,while i was dunking it everything smelled like pure mushrooms my whole room stinks of mushrooms I didnt even catch a glimpse of anything suspicios in smell and by the looks and the bruising its kinda weird i didnt saw that contaminants bruise but well you are the experts Im just learning new things
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23391163 - 06/28/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23391179 - 06/28/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ClintMassey said: Effective against bacteria of the strains Aeromonas, Pseudomonas, Columnaris, Flexibacter, Streptococci and others. Very well tolerated,even by crayfish. It is absorbed quickly through the gills and can be traced in all organs after only a few minutes.
but, do you have any of those specific bacteria? or gills on your myc?
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: ClintMassey]
#23391187 - 06/28/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ClintMassey said: It is kind of experimental I did some reading and found out that you can kill bacteria withoput harming the fungi and it actually benefits the fungi so we shall see,
care to share that link btw?
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: LocN9ne]
#23391192 - 06/28/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont get this deathstar picture,what does it have to do with anything???
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: spacechildo]
#23391200 - 06/28/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It LOOKS bacterial. What you see as normal and healthy mycelium is what WE see as bacterial spawn. The mycelium you are producing is acting strangely, and is becoming aerial, thick and white. Indicative of a bacteria problem.
There isn't a way to cure a bacterial contamination if it's deeply embedded in the mycelium and has already stuck with it since the start. It's done the damage already. Don't dunk anything else in antibiotics. If you are lucky, you'll still get a few mushrooms from this. If you just try and fruit it as normal.
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Re: My first bulk diary on Shroomery [Re: spacechildo]
#23391229 - 06/28/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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ClintMassey said: It is kind of experimental I did some reading and found out that you can kill bacteria withoput harming the fungi and it actually benefits the fungi so we shall see,
care to share that link btw?
Look im not here to prove a point od anykind,im just trying to save my colony,no I dont have a link it was somekind of research that some scientist did with antibiotics and fungicids and stuff and it said that antibiotics can actually promote mycelium development,No mycelium doesnt have gills but can absorb moisture and breathes so it means it absorbs water and other solubles its pure logic but no matter what this stuff kill all of those families of bacteria and even others not included in the list so it will work on probably most of bacterias you can find near or inside your home,it doesnt inhibit growth but just kills the bacteria cause bacteria hass cell walls and it destroys their membrane and fungi doesnt have that so it doesnt do anything to them...I am not a scientist but I understand what it said when I read it but I dont feel like remembering word to word,my english is not the best and I sometimes have problems expressing myself,sometimes people need to think outside the box,I learned alot in my life thinking outside the box and experimentin on stuff,I ve been growing marijuna for 13+ years and I can say I learned the most by trial and error and I found out stuff that you cant read on the internet by trying different stuff and experimenting and I would like to stop with the debating,If no one knows how to help a person in a situation criticism isnt helpfull and doesnt make you a better person it just makes you look like a douchebag...It is too easy for you guys in usa to buy everything in your homedepot and wallmart and you have everything and I mean everything and here where I live its fucking sad...and I really mean sad,my gf got me some new excellent prints,from a reputable european company so I dont have to fuck around with that shitty FSRE spore prints anymore and I finally got some real equipment so I can grow in peace without trying different shit to make filters and shit that doesnt work,it is fucking impossible to buy a fucking hepa filter here so you can make a laminar flow hood and if you want to order one it cost like a fucking good car so no thanks,and I know people who grow mushrooms in a clear room without none of that fanc stuff and by dozens of kilos per flush,they are edible types but you can do it not everyone uses laminar flow hoods and SAB,s and stuff like that and still produce massive ammounts of mushrooms and that s all I gotta say,Its very easy for you to order shit from e bay or some other shit and you dont even get it how lucky you are that you have everything pretty cheap and accesible at any given time
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