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Orgasmatron
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23357320 - 06/18/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Agar needs sterile technique, he/she's asking about cardboard and doing it without sterile technique.
DON'T USE EUCALYPTUS, I mean come on... the essential oils will most likely be offensive to your mycelium.
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ummagumma
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: Orgasmatron]
#23357454 - 06/18/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't need cardboard. All I do is collect twigs and sticks, give them a wash and break the sticks into small pieces and place them in an container. Then I place a few stem butts on top and the place the lid on with a few holes. Within a couple of days you will see new vigour growth and in three to four weeks You should be ready to transplant. There is a small trick to that too 

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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: Orgasmatron]
#23357468 - 06/18/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most our door hunting types are definitely not going familiar with agar. But it's really not hard and even for outdoor grows where clean spawn is not as essential, it can still be quite useful. Yes stem butts to cardboard can work. You expand it outside and there is no sterility needed. But if you have a vigorous culture on clean healthy spawn it will encourage better colonization no matter what you spawn it to. Also if you even want to bring them woodlovers indoors to attempt crazy indoor experiments, agar then will be a must.
To do stembutts to cardboard is easy. Soak cardboard, add stem butts to it in a closed (but not sealed) container that won't dry out. When cardboard is colonized then expand it to a pile of soaked wood chips outside.
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Painkiller
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23358644 - 06/18/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the replies!
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Painkiller
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: ummagumma]
#23359631 - 06/19/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ummagumma said: You don't need cardboard. All I do is collect twigs and sticks, give them a wash and break the sticks into small pieces and place them in an container. Then I place a few stem butts on top and the place the lid on with a few holes. Within a couple of days you will see new vigour growth and in three to four weeks You should be ready to transplant. There is a small trick to that too 


I like what you've done using the pine needles so I'm going to do that tomorrow. I'm still planning on using cardboard though.
Are the holes in the container essential? I was thinking of leaving the containers outside in the shadiest spot and open the lid once a day for just a few seconds to let the carbon dioxide out (like I saw on a video on Youtube) and mist with water occasionally.
I'm planning on having one container with pine needles and the other with eucalyptus forest floor debris (minus the leaves). Both being inbetween layers of saturated corrugated cardboard with stem butts.
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ummagumma
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: Painkiller]
#23359776 - 06/19/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes of course use cardboard if that's what you like to do. I used too however I don't think Its too necessary anymore.
Yes the lid holes are essential. Now if some containers do not have holes just make some. As I live alone so Im able to place my containers in my kitchen cupboards  It works at treat as you can see.  You can leave your little project outside but I would use a lid with holes Also you don't need to keep watering the containers. If I feel my substrate is moist I'll just leave it as that. If it's a tad dry I just place a few drops then close the lid. Keep it simple you won't go wrong. Here are my new containers The left one is very essential as these butts come from a very special ultra strong Psilocybe. So we'll see how they go 

Here is a picture of these crazy strong mushrooms.
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: ummagumma]
#23359791 - 06/19/16 03:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool as. Yer I've just read in Mycelium Running on page 147 below Figure 149
"Placing cut stem butts, with rhizomorphs attached, into moistened, folded, or sandwhiched corrugated cardboard. This folded cardboard, once inoculated, is placed into a cardboard box or plastic tub with a loose lid and drainage holes, and incubated outdoors in the shade on the ground."
So this is what I plan to do.
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ummagumma
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: Painkiller]
#23359820 - 06/19/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good luck Keep us up to date with the progress.
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Re: Cultivation using stem butts quick few questions. [Re: ummagumma]
#23359840 - 06/19/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I'll defiantly post a photo of the containers with all the stuff inside and terrain photos as well from the places I sourced the mycelium.
I was planning on doing this tomorrow but since I need access to a drill I'll have it all set up some time in the next few days...
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