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First grow. water in tub
    #23352147 - 06/16/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

First of all let it to be known im and brand new to shroomery and i apologize  if i break any forum rules. However i have read the rules, so i think im good. This is my first grow i am doing a mono-tub tek. I have actually purchased everything pre sterilized (spawn bags and bulk sub), Everything has been going very well and very fast. i noc'd the sub 6 days ago. Today when i got home from work I've realized my acc has not been running all day and it isdegrees in the grow room, and i'd assume it has been this way for several hours now. As im looking at the tub i realized i have a accumulation of water in the bottom of my tub (gold in color).

If i had to guess i'd say its about 1/8 of a cup of liquid sitting in a pocket of nothing where i apparently didn't evenly spread the bulk. Its a hole approximately 1/2inch X 1/2inch X 3 inch Should i be trying to drain this somehow? I didn't think it was a good idea to remove the lid before it fully colonized


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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Killerclowns87]
    #23352247 - 06/16/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I have actually purchased everything pre sterilized (spawn bags and bulk sub)




Not sure if you're aware but I just wanna get it out of the way, before someone else does, that that's generally pretty frowned upon here.  The results are a very mixed bag and the reason people are tough about it is because new growers having repeated failures is something that takes up everybody's time, and isn't really fun for anybody involved.  So we tend to always push for the methods that will have the best chance of success.  That said, lemme read the rest of your post...

Okay, so...  This doesn't look like it has a liner between the substrate and tub, that correct?  If the liquid you have at the bottom has a golden tinge to it then it is not just water, it's diluted metabolites from the mycelium, which can be produced in response to heat stress (temps over 90F for extended periods), or contamination.  Sometimes it simply appears in response to the digestion of certain substrates, but that usually doesn't have that issue.  Then again, your substrate looks partially uncolonized and that could just be the substrate materials diluted into the water.

You can lift the lid while colonizing, makes no difference.  I colonize lately with no tape over the holes, just polyfill like you would use during the fruiting stage, to no ill effect.  I would go ahead and tilt and drain the water out while being careful not to let the substrate break.

What temp exactly was the substrate at?  You seem to have left out the number.  Also, how did all that water get there in the first place?  Mycelium can kind of sweat out liquid in response to extreme heat stress, but other than that, it really shouldn't have exuded that much.

In most situations where a substrate isn't fully colonized and the moisture ratio is that far off... well honestly I've never been in that situation, but I wouldn't have my hopes up too high for this project if it got completely soaked before it had a chance to colonize.  It does look a little bit bacterial which is the #1 problem people who use pre-sterilized substrates encounter.


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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Inocuole]
    #23352420 - 06/16/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23352485 - 06/16/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info.  i'd much rather make a hobby of it and create my own sub anyways, but i know now for the future. As far as water being there  i added straw to bulk up my substrate. Between the moister from there and the mycelium "sweating" together have created this liquid.The room was @ 91 degrees for about 6 hours while i was at work. (Normally keep the room at 84)


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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Killerclowns87]
    #23352505 - 06/16/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's not enough to cause that moisture problem.  The substrate must have simply been overhydrated to start with.  I've let substrates get hotter than that for longer and the results were nothing like that.


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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Inocuole]
    #23352532 - 06/16/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Temps of 91 are going to encourage a bacterial bloom especially in grain spawn with a shortened window. That sub is likely riddled. I would fruit it sooner and be sure the FAE is good

Mycelium does not actually sweat. That is produced metabolites. Do not drain the metabolites, they are what is protecting the sub. I would get that fruiting if it's not already and pray for a flush.


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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23352595 - 06/16/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well, literal sweating isn't what I meant, but it can exude water and metabolites if the temps are high enough for long enough.  Not to say that's what I think happened to OP.

I hate busting out this picture but, heat and bacteria can force mycelium to do some weird shit.



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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Inocuole]
    #23352652 - 06/16/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I know that's not what you meant Inoc :wink: I just wanted to be sure the OP was pickin up what you were putting down :derfase:


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Re: First grow. water in tub [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23352659 - 06/16/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I understand. Thank you guys very much for info. Im gonna get this guy fruiting tonight.:thumbup:


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