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Spinmetooblivion
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Tasteless fake acid.
#23351796 - 06/16/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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A few days ago I took 3 tabs of white on white blotter which was tasteless. I went on a bike ride and as the trip started to get heavy I pulled off and layed down on the side of a hill looking over a river. I was hit with intense ego loss and began to trip unusually hard for a 3 tab trip. The length of the trip was about 12 hours till baseline but i noticed some very strange side effects that I never used to get .
Acid used to be a very clean trip for me free of body load. This trip had qualities that were very similar to my previous trips. However, this time and the last couple times i noticed some very strange effects which included
-Pins and needles on my finger tips - jaw gurning a little less intense then rolling - at the peak when the ego loss and visuals occured i got nastagymus (sorry for the spelling) and my field of vision would shake like on mdma. (This only occured for an hour at the peak) maybe the visuals were so strong that I mistook it for nastagymus but I am almost certain that my eyes were rapidly shaking.
This has happened the last couple times I stupidly injested a good dose of WOW in my area. Like I said LSD used to be a very clean trip free of these side effects. Im pretty damn convinced that this tasteless WOW is somehow a phenylthylamine RC or maybe a lysergamide with far more side effects then real L. It would be undistinguishable to me from real L but the pins and needles on the hands, and the strong eye wiggles have me convinced other wise. Any opinions from experienced shroomerites on here? Can real L actually produce these effects? I know this is really difficult to answer but I would just like an opinion from experienced shroomerites.
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Real L can produce those effects.
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LOL he probably called his dealer and said it was fake too. Darkstar, do you ever get tired of having to constantly correct people about LSD? I swear you have the same template responses somewhere in a word doc for easy access.
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Tasteless RCs definitely exist though. I've got some and there's just no possible way it was actually LSD. 100% sure of it
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: UncleCid]
#23351907 - 06/16/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So you're telling me if I gave you 1P-LSD you'd be able to distinguish between that and real L?
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Yeah it drives me fucking nuts honestly. I should have a template. I spend way too much time typing all this shit up again & again.
UncleCid - you can not be 100% sure that it wasn't LSD unless you sent it to a lab. Sure there are tasteless RCs, but LSD has side effects. There were a couple batches of blotter a couple years back that folks suspected of being an RC & not LSD because of the side effects. Samples were sent to a lab, and the results were the same; LSD.
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: So you're telling me if I gave you 1P-LSD you'd be able to distinguish between that and real L?
I never said that. Whatever RC I ate was some really cheap shallow chemical. That's all I'm saying
Tasteless RC's most definitely exist
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: UncleCid]
#23351932 - 06/16/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fair enough
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: Dark_Star]
#23351951 - 06/16/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Yeah it drives me fucking nuts honestly.
UncleCid - you can not be 100% sure that it wasn't LSD unless you sent it to a lab. Sure there are tasteless RCs, but LSD has side effects. There were a couple batches of blotter a couple years back that folks suspected of being an RC & not LSD because of the side effects. Samples were sent to a lab, and the results were the same; LSD.
Part of it (besides duration of onset and the duration of the trip) was just that the visuals were so different. The best way I can describe it was like I was wearing scratched sunglasses and as I move my head with the sunglasses on, the visuals followed it. There were no fractals or anything like that. It was really weird. At one point it literally felt like my brain was melting. It basically made us all completely fucking retarded for a few hours. It was a cheap RC. And the comedown like made all of us bug out around the same time (this happened at another time I ate it too) and for no reason either, we were all having fun being retarded and laughing our balls off at basically nothing then boom without mentioning anything I'm kinda like having a difficult moment but I was all quiet about it. Then my friend goes "You guys wanna take a walk? I like need to change something up right now I'm feeling pretty weird". It's bc whatever drug we were doing gives off some weird irritable comedown, real lsd isnt like that, on the comedown you just chill with minor visuals. I mean LSD is a drug that makes you think. The visuals are different than that
You can say whatever you want but I'm more than 100% sure it wasn't good ole LSD. I know I'm new around here but I've been tripping for over a decade and I know my LSD. It was an RC
Like in the back of my mind it kinda gave me a bad trip bc it was very obvious once it hit me that it wasn't L and I'm like cool, wtf did I eat?
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: UncleCid]
#23351968 - 06/16/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ha I might even have a couple of those lying around still. Maybe I will send em in. Who would you guys recommend? Energy Control? Edata?
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: UncleCid]
#23351975 - 06/16/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: UncleCid]
#23352020 - 06/16/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: So you're telling me if I gave you 1P-LSD you'd be able to distinguish between that and real L?
I never said that. Whatever RC I ate was some really cheap shallow chemical. That's all I'm saying
Tasteless RC's most definitely exist
Tasteless RCs do exist, but lets not talk about them 
And LSD gives all those side effects OP. i dont know the pattern of why it happens some trips and not others, but LSD is just random like that
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Perhaps those side effects were partially because of the batch of acid, and partially just happening separately from the trip. Ex: the pins and needles feeling was just because your arms were falling asleep, but you didn't realize that's what was happening because you were tripping out.
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I've had tasteless "acid" that did not pass the Erlrich test. No purple whatsoever. I have no idea what chemical it was... It's a shame I didn't take it to my friend at the time... this was ages ago, maybe in 2014. I really really wish i had sent that sample to the mass spec it lasted 8 hours, had no taste, very similar to lsd but something was different.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: 404]
#23352989 - 06/16/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could very well have been one of the other lysergamides. My understanding is that some or atleast one of them doesn't turn purple on erhlich.
Also, UncleCid, LSD can definitely cause all those effects, has the same timeline, and is in major abundance throughout the world at this time.
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: So you're telling me if I gave you 1P-LSD you'd be able to distinguish between that and real L?
I never said that. Whatever RC I ate was some really cheap shallow chemical. That's all I'm saying
Tasteless RC's most definitely exist
Tasteless RCs do exist, but lets not talk about them 
And LSD gives all those side effects OP. i dont know the pattern of why it happens some trips and not others, but LSD is just random like that 
Those things happen to me if I have a lot of toxins in my body. If I drank a lot recently. If I am dehydrated. If I ate too much dairy and meat before a trip.
There's so many things that can make psychedelics function differently.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#23353007 - 06/16/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: LOL he probably called his dealer and said it was fake too. Darkstar, do you ever get tired of having to constantly correct people about LSD? I swear you have the same template responses somewhere in a word doc for easy access.
It's possible that it was fake, just from my own experience, but there's no way to tell without at least some sort of indicator like at the ver least an erlrich test, and like dark_star said, a lab test.
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sh4d0ws said: Could very well have been one of the other lysergamides. My understanding is that some or atleast one of them doesn't turn purple on erhlich.
Also, UncleCid, LSD can definitely cause all those effects, has the same timeline, and is in major abundance throughout the world at this time.
A postive erlrich test will show an indication of the presence of an indole ring structure, something that's on every lysergamide structure.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: 404]
#23353406 - 06/17/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had the exact side-effects you mentioned, and it was from LSD. The jaw tension was rough for me because i already have TMJ disorder which is a jaw issue.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: ak47myth]
#23353425 - 06/17/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've found a lot of variation in the quality of acid/trips I've had over the years. Looking through this thread makes sense; I didn't know most people experienced such variation in effects.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: UncleCid]
#23353451 - 06/17/16 02:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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UncleCid said: Ha I might even have a couple of those lying around still. Maybe I will send em in. Who would you guys recommend? Energy Control? Edata?
You can't just mail it to them you know. Do whatever but I swear if I have to hear you go on and on about this again bassfreak I am going to shoot myself.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: my3rdeye]
#23353456 - 06/17/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bassfreaks back again?!
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Yeah acid is a very unpredictable chemical. Considering all the receptors it hits it makes sense that vascoconstriction and other side effects would be present. However the mdma like side effects made me think it might me a phen. And if tasteless phens are being sold on the streets now im not sure that I want to be fucking with street acid any more.
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I doubt it would be a phen man, I've had a few laid on blotters and they were nothing like acid to me. I can see how someone who'd only done acid a couple of times getting a little confused but if you're an acid vet you'd know right away I reckon.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: Dark_Star]
#23353505 - 06/17/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Real L can produce those effects.
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Dark_Star said: Yeah it drives me fucking nuts honestly. I should have a template. I spend way too much time typing all this shit up again & again.
UncleCid - you can not be 100% sure that it wasn't LSD unless you sent it to a lab. Sure there are tasteless RCs, but LSD has side effects. There were a couple batches of blotter a couple years back that folks suspected of being an RC & not LSD because of the side effects. Samples were sent to a lab, and the results were the same; LSD.
It's possible you got an RC but DS is of course once again right . You really can't and don't know it was an Rc . I have had different batches of real tested acid. It's mainly the same trip but not always. I've had a acid that makes things cartoony,I've had acid that isn't super visual . Also that's a lot to do with dose. With the dark web pumping out 200mcg hits and such can make for an extremely strong hit because 200mcg is a lot of acid. Could've been a RC but you just can't know. The duration isnt nessicarily a dead give away either. Seems like it but I think a big dose of Lucy COULD do that.
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Like others said, lab test or forever wonder. ALD-52 and 1P-LSD are pretty much the same effects as LSD and have no taste. Since they're produced more professionally and laid at proper doses, each hit may seem stronger than "street LSD" which is wildly inconsistent in dose per batch, or even tab.
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Interesting, I actually experienced a "pins and needles" feeling in my hands my most recent time eating shrooms. It was really intense and kinda unpleasant, and likewise I wasn't sure if it was coming from me or the trip. Looking back, I had been out drinking the previous night and was tripping outside on a hot day, so I'm willing to bet it was due to dehydration.
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Re: Tasteless fake acid. [Re: BirdLaw]
#23353834 - 06/17/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep it was hot as hell and I rode my bike about 20 miles during the come up. Got slightly nauseous and pulled off the trail until the peak hit me. Once the peak hit my ego was obliterated and I waited an hour or 2 before continuing.
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Not sure what a bassfreak is. If you are implying that I listen to dubstep or EDM then you are wrong. Im more of a hip hop/ rap guy. A lot of people who consider them selves open minded on this site love to judge and make assumptions.
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