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Cebil (similar to Yopo) seeds
    #23350575 - 06/16/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I've had about 50 cebil seeds (containing bufotenine and small amounts of N,N and 5-meo-dmt) sitting around for about a year now and haven't tried them. I've heard you can make a snuff or smoke them, but the former sounds god awful.

Anybody have experience or advice on how to prepare and the best way to consume these?


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Re: Cebil (similar to Yopo) seeds [Re: I Love Lucid] * 1
    #23350908 - 06/16/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Best way to consume is probably baking (to remove fats) then freebasing and smoking slowly, preferably after MAOI.

I use calcium carbonate to freebase, which you can buy at health store (as antacid).  One also can use clean eggshell or WHITE ash.


The extract is awesome; enhance some freebased rue seeds or caapi leaf with freebase bufotenine and WOW...


Here is the excellent, easy alcohol extraction that takes you from A-Z:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7821


And here are a few of my early experiments, including bufochanga and orally dosing a freebased bean or two with alcohol: https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157238

Newageshaman shared his experience with a similar extract:
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As i closed my eye's my vision was filled with red, it stayed like this for awhile until a beautiful dancer started appearing as a orange outline in the red. The dancing was unlike anything i've seen, so fluid and nearly watery?
The visual aspect of the trip lasted about 30 minutes with about 10 to 15 minutes of nausea.

This was quite an exceptional trip, a bit of bodyload but not enough to turn me away from this amazing and legal (atleast at the moment) psychedelic.



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20005609/fpart/all/vc/1


Tips:

NAUSEA:
Six or seven drops of lemon essential oil completely prevents Bufo nausea, but eating a few grams Ginger might work too.

VASODILATORS:
Can be a good idea.  Kola nut is a great vasodilator- it raises euphoric energy. Bufo can be very sedating on its own, yet alcohol also pairs well as vasodilator.  Harmalas, which work both as vasodilators and potentiators, are highly recommended.

DOSING:
I got in the habit of buccally applying plain crushed rue 20 minutes before smoking; I thought I heard the natives will chew Caapi while smoking Cebil/Mapacho cigars... buccally dosed harmalas are extremely effective.  Breaking the dose into several hits works best.  I worked with a light bulb vape using the crushed & freebased beans.  Eventually I switched to making an alcohol extract evaporated onto broken freebased rue seeds for a crude Bufochanga.  Smoking a minute amount of Datura with it was always good too.

ENVIRONMENT:
Wearing loose, cool clothing and laying in bed with a quiet fan running a breeze in the backround and maybe some soft Icaros playing would be great but a dark room or eye fold is what's most highly recommended.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: Cebil (similar to Yopo) seeds [Re: flickedbic]
    #23351034 - 06/16/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Just what I needed! I might try smoking straight seeds first, but I'm also definitely gonna give the IPA extraction a go since I have plenty of seeds and IPA is easy enough to come by.

Have you tried bucally dosing the freebase bufotenine without an MAOI? Would this even work?


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Re: Cebil (similar to Yopo) seeds [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23352627 - 06/16/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Smoking plain, freebased bean is a good idea to gauge potency.  Make sure to roast them before basifying as they'll loose half their weight in fat.

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Have you tried bucally dosing the freebase bufotenine without an MAOI? Would this even work?




I havent tried it neat bucally but it looks like it works:

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BUFOTENINE-SUBLINGUAL PSYCHONAUTICS (BS)

Like 5-MeO-DMT, sublingual bufotenine proved to be Equipotent with intranasal ingestion, having virtually the same pharmacodynamics, and likewise susceptible to doubling of potency with similar doses of beta-carbolines.




https://www.erowid.org/archive/sonoran_desert_toad/ott.htm


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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