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Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab?
    #23350298 - 06/16/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

So a week ago I met with my dealer who supposedly got these tripple dosed tabs of LSD... I bought 3. 1 to do by myself here since it's my last week here, I'm leaving next week to my home country for the summer. The other 2 me and my friend who will be his first time doing LSD, we will probably take it in about month+ from now. The tab was a bit larger than usual tabs I've seen. Usually in my life, I always want to make sure that I have tested my drugs, but with LSD I usually don't test them through a test kit, I just glow some blacklight over the tab and see if it glows, because I also trust my dealer a lot since he's also a friend of mine, kinda like Saul and Dale, and also takes the same drugs he sells and wouldn't give bad stuff. I always buy the LSD from the same guy, but everytime they are different tabs, anyways, when I put them under the blacklight, it glows, it actually, to me, always glowed, which showed me it's LSD.
Yesterday before I took the tab I went inside a dark room and pointed the blacklight over the tab. It glowed like usual, and I was happy that this is probably LSD, since they say the Nbome doesn't glow on blacklights.
I remember in my whole life, when I have taken LSD the tab had 0 taste, not even a little, which sometimes even had me thinking that I got ripped off before the effects started.

Anyways, so, yesterday, I go out downtown with my bike, praying that the tab is LSD and not Nbome, because I always have some concerns about everything, and so I put the tab under my tongue. Immidiately after I put the tab under my tongue I got a really really bitter, almost burning taste, that numbed my mouth, and I immidiately got really scared and took out the tab.
I immidiately texted my dealer and told him that this might not be LSD, this was very bitter and burned my mouth. He told me he is sure it's LSD, and that LSD is sometimes bitter when it is very strong, and he also said that he is sure that the tab contains some LSA, and also the ink of the tab may be a chemical that burns... Anyways, later he called me and he told me that his dealer told him that indeed it is the strongest LSD tab he ever had.
So I was like, eh, what ever, even if it's Nbome it can't be that bad, and plus it's an opportunity to see how that also feels like so I can like compare them later... So I put the tab back in my mouth. It got uncomfortably bitter, but I held it... The whole time I was just praying that it's LSD.
The first effects started after like 40 minutes, just got some watery eyes, and I never remember having watery eyes from LSD so I was kinda concerned at this point. At that point I had met with my tripsitters and told them that I may have gotten something that isn't LSD and it may f*k me up. We went and sat down, and I was just feeling really really weird, not good, kinda dizzy. My face got a bit numb, kinda like with alcohol, about an hour after I took the tab. The whole time I was very very worried, and I was just trying to keep myself chill so I won't have a bad trip. Anyways, I was feeling pretty dizzy, until 1:30 hours from the time I took the tab passed, and the trip started. I wasn't feeling very dizzy anymore...
The trip was exactly like the other trips I've had on LSD, just stronger, the effects and headspace were the same, the taste in my mouth, sensation, patterns (more patterns this time), trippy stuff changing morphs and colors, all this kinds of stuff, they were exactly the same with LSD, so at that point I was chill and texted my dealer that it is probably LSD afterall, just really strong, he told me told ya'...
The trip, sensations and visuals were exactly the same with my previous LSD trips, couldn't tell a difference, and my pupils were also very dilated like usual.
The trip lasted from the moment I took it, 12:30PM until like 5AM that I finally achieved sleeping a bit even though even when I closed my eyes I would see patterns. That's what LSD tends to do to me everytime, I always feel it for longer than 12 hours, much longer.
Today I woke up with the usual hangover I get from LSD. Overall it wasn't a bad experience, it was stronger than previous ones but I knew it was gonna be stronger since it supposedly had more ug than other times...

And so here I am now to ask you experienced guys, what do you think I took according to all of this info? What if the tab was actually a mix of LSD and Nbome? Is this a possibility?


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23350449 - 06/16/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

most likely no one can tell you for sure what youve taken but imo sounds like nbome due to the numbing


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas] * 1
    #23350506 - 06/16/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You took NBOME. Paper glows under a blacklight, the blacklight test is not reliable. There's also no such thing as triple-dipped tabs, and nobody lays LSA onto blotter. Your guy, and the guy he got it from, are both dipshits. Don't buy from them again


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23350513 - 06/16/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah... I am also afraid so that it was nbome.. Plus today actually isn't the usual LSD hangover, today I just feel so angry and almost suicidal for some reason, and I am also very slow fuctioning, I can't think well... I don't know what's wrong. Usully after LSD I feel smarter not dumber...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #23350526 - 06/16/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hard to say because there are so many different analogs but it def wasn't LSD...it is absolutely tasteless and not numbing.

I had to laugh about what you said about alcohol numbing...The only thing that alcohol numbed for me was my good intentions and common sense...lol, they both went out the window. :drunk:


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23351166 - 06/16/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

My dealer just told me, that his dealer told him that the tab was burning cuz it was inside a bag of MDMA crystals.... But the taste wasn't like MDMA, it was like chemical burning, what do you giys think about this?


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23351229 - 06/16/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Most likely an Nbome dude. Your dealer is a piece of shit


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice] * 1
    #23351331 - 06/16/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

mario, none of us can tell for certain what you took, but you can. You've got the other 2 tabs left, right? Well, have them tested man.

No black light, but at least with Ehrlich, or have them sent to a lab. You're in the NL, so you can go to GGD or jellinek, and pay only 2.50e for a test. Takes a week, then you get the results by phone. It's 100% anonymous, and the labs are professional, I think DSM, that big chem company does the testing.

All in all your post surprised me a little. This was not the way to do it. I always buy enough to both test and trip, then only trip after the test. And that story about bitter lsd, and lsa on a tab, and whatever, that is all totally sketchy. Also, that whole chain of dealers above you will tell each other anything, they have no stake in this and don't care for one bit if you ask me.

OT, what is your country of origin btw, and for how long will you be in the NL again when you come back? (if you don't mind me asking)


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
    #23351384 - 06/16/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That stuff about the taste that the dealer said sounds like a bunch of random bullshit. Totally 25i - that strong numbing taste... bleh
I'd be tempted to test a tab and call em out if there's a good test kit for nbome v LSD
My 25i trips have all been really wacky and confusing. Biggest difference in effects I've noticed is nbome's strange body sensations and the complete elimination of short term memory


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: trippyfish]
    #23351414 - 06/16/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ehrlich is a good test, isn't it?

Or he can have it lab tested, that's not too hard in the NL, and very affordable too.

Though they did ask two consecutive tabs last time I went and had my stuff tested. For some reason the tabs still had to be connected, to make them sure they'd have enough of a single batch I suppose.

Either way, test that stuff.



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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: trippyfish]
    #23351570 - 06/16/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I don't need to test it, because one thing's for sure, whatever it was it was too much and I don't want to do it again... Today I felt like shit all day, in the beggining of the day I couldn't even open my sink to brush my teeth, I had diarrhea all day every 10 minutes, I am still hearing some strange electrical bird sounds inside my head (which is not stopping and it's driving me nuts) and some things still move a bit, yesterday before I went to sleep I was shaking in my bed from cold sensations even though the room was hot, I went out today with my friends because 2 of them are leaving tomorrow for their home country, and when I was outside even though it was a chill weather I was feeling a strange sensation of heat, it is a really bad situation, when I was taking a shower earlier I was so sad I was almost crying, I was like, I destroyed my brain or something... :sad:
And so I threw the tabs in the toilet. Basically wasted 30 euros... Even if I tested them and they were Lsd, this Lsd was too fked up for me and I wouldn't do it again, and even if it tested to be nbome it can't change the past and take back the fact that I took it... One thing's for sure, won't be buying Lsd from this dude again, and I will always eztest my tabs before I take them, even though, after tomorrow where ill go to a rave with my friends and ill take some x, it will be the last time in months I'm doing drugs, I have got so much short term memory since I started taking them, when I used to be really smart now I can't even think, and the cherry on the cake is that sht tab that messed up my brain, so yeah, after tomorrow ill take a break from that stuff...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
    #23353309 - 06/17/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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mario, none of us can tell for certain what you took, but you can. You've got the other 2 tabs left, right? Well, have them tested man.

No black light, but at least with Ehrlich, or have them sent to a lab. You're in the NL, so you can go to GGD or jellinek, and pay only 2.50e for a test. Takes a week, then you get the results by phone. It's 100% anonymous, and the labs are professional, I think DSM, that big chem company does the testing.

All in all your post surprised me a little. This was not the way to do it. I always buy enough to both test and trip, then only trip after the test.





The OP's post actually angers me. 99 percent of us don't live in the Netherlands and have would love to have access to this kind of testing. Getting nbomed in the Netherlands should never happen.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #23353379 - 06/17/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You really believe the dealer when he says the burning sensation was because the blotter was sitting in a bag with mdma?

More than likely it was nbome.

Tell the dealer he isnt selling lsd. Its a research chemical of some sort. Or just cut him off completely.

Most dealers IME are just idiots and they truly believe they have LSD because they dont reagent test their products. Others know and just dont care. They are all assholes.

Buy a test kit for now on to be safe. I need to do the same. I dont even bother trying to get lsd right now because in my area it just doesnt seem to exist. Only time i got real lsd was from a trusted friend who mailed it to me... Good guy.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: ak47myth]
    #23353435 - 06/17/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

that's why you buy your synthetic psychs from the darknet, folks.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: ak47myth]
    #23353838 - 06/17/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Haha, the dealer actually believes that it is LSD, and he says that today he will also eat the same tab that I did to see how it'll be like. He says that his dealer many times puts his tabs inside bags of MDMA and he's seen him himself. But I am 100% sure that this was nbome... Yeah, ill test my sh*ts from now on always, at least I'm feeling much better today :smile:
Also, I wanna post a picture of the 2 tabs, because they had a molecule symbol on top, and I want someone here to maybe identify what molecule it is by structure, but Ill post it tomorrow cuz I don't have much time right now, I gtg get haircut and then rave :grin:


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23354148 - 06/17/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah post the tab for sure! was it dyed pink?


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23357025 - 06/18/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Here, they were like this. There is a molecule on top, I couldn't guess which molecule it could have been but to me it doesn't look like the LSD molecule... Anyways, if someone could guess which one it could be, tell meh :tongue:



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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23358047 - 06/18/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like Nbome, I've got 19 hits of the stuff and I don't know what to do with it. I tried it once and it was bitter as shit and made me dizzy as you described. It's definitely not healthy. I don't want the stuff but can't bring myself to get rid of it because the money spent...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: GreyPsyche]
    #23358054 - 06/18/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Buy the 10$ testkit...damn.

Ive had white on white that has made my tongue just a tiny bit numb, tested good, it wasn't over powering, but i noticed it just a lil bit.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LSDollar] * 1
    #23358134 - 06/18/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide

Your picture is consistent with the structure of lsd. Look at the wikipedia link, the top part of that molecule is similar to your fragments.

That doesn't mean a thing of course, it's just a print.

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And so I threw the tabs in the toilet. Basically wasted 30 euros...




This too, I regret to say, is not the way to do it. I understand you acted in disappointment, even anger, but what you did now is not just wasting 30 euros, but destroy a crucial piece of evidence. You had the chance to obtain valuable information, and you threw it away. Now you'll never know what you took. Imagine you are stuck with some kind of permanent damage, see a doctor in 4 weeks, and they ask you about it. They will want to know, but you destroyed the evidence. Such a shame.

In the name of science, always test, always test.

I even have a bunch of dirty cathinones in my collection (though not nbomes yet) Not to take them of course, but to compare reagents test on the real stuff with these dirty chems. It gives me a chance to discover what I'm doing. Knowledge is power. You denied yourself this power.

I'd be fascinated to actually test dirty nbomes. And fix in my mind the sensation I got from them. That way, next time, if you ever get nbomed again (god forbid) you have as much knowledge as possible.

Finally, the test people love to get shady drugs, and test them. It helps prevent accidents if they know this drug is in circulation. They might even put a picture on some webpage or poster somewhere. They do so with pill, so why not tabs.

Sorry OP, don't mean to sound mean after what happened to you, but this whole exercise was poorly executed.

Much love anyway. Hanz.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
    #23358229 - 06/18/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Testing it wouldn't have changed the fact I took it, it would only let me to waste more money for a test...and since I wasn't gonna take it again or give it to anyone, theres was no reason to check it... Nothing would change if I tested it and it was nbome, I wouldn't go to the doctor about it, and just learning what I took isn't of my interest since I already took it anyways, won't change a thing... Eh but anyways from now on I will test all of this... Seriously theres not even a single really trusting dealer, only the frikin coffeeshops and smartshops are trusted dealers...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23358301 - 06/18/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yep, that's why I rarely enjoy substances anymore.

Even my pot dealer shorts me a hair buying any quantity. The only dealer I trust is way overpriced.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23358380 - 06/18/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Testing it wouldn't have changed the fact I took it, it would only let me to waste more money for a test...and since I wasn't gonna take it again or give it to anyone, theres was no reason to check it... Nothing would change if I tested it and it was nbome, I wouldn't go to the doctor about it, and just learning what I took isn't of my interest since I already took it anyways, won't change a thing... Eh but anyways from now on I will test all of this... Seriously theres not even a single really trusting dealer, only the frikin coffeeshops and smartshops are trusted dealers...




I'm sorry, you have evidently missed my point.

You're not seeing a doctor now. But you certainly will should there be some permanent form of damage or really severe symptoms. Saying you will never need a doctor is tough-guy logic. You will need one when you need one.

If you feel nothing would change now by testing it after the fact, then IMO you have not understood what harm reduction actually means.

If someone slipped you an unknown poison with the intent to kill you then I'm certain you would have had it tested. The police officer working on your case would have. And so would the autopsy doc. It's a crucial piece of evidence. You destroyed that evidence.

And now you're saying it doesn't matter, and you don't care. I stand by my case that it does matter, and you should care. 


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
    #23358427 - 06/18/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Eh idk bro, and I really don't wanna get my dealer in trouble, he is a friend of mine and all my friends and me love him cuz he is the only one who has really clean drugs, like really good molly or x pills for example, made here, and one of his friends also sells weed from strange strains that coffeeshops don't have, like Green Crack and 3 other cool American strains, and it's nice to smoke stuff that you can't find in shops... So yeah, even if it was evidence, I wouldn't use it against him... He was sure this was LSD... And anyways, yesterday I was feeling better than 2 days ago and today I felt even better even though I was also supposed to have a rough comedown, since I took like 300+mg of MDMA yesterday night, and I still didn't get a comedown, probably I will get it on Monday cuz that's what happened both the two previous times I took x, I got the comedown on Tuesday...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas] * 1
    #23358487 - 06/18/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23358628 - 06/18/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Its not about getting him in "trouble" its about preventing what happened to you from happening to others, or worse.

What if some wreckless kids buy a few hits from that dealer as "acid" then decide to eat 3-4 hits for whatever reason and die or suffer serious damage...

At the very least you should test it and tell the dealer if what he has is fake. Maybe he is getting ripped off too who knows.

As for a test kit being a waste of money... For 30$ you can get 3 different reagents to accurately test most drugs, for 30$ you get enough for probably 50-100 tests...

How is that a waste of money? Wouldn't you want to avoid this situation in the future? You could test that MDMA too to make sure you don't get a fucked up stim.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LuzaW]
    #23358651 - 06/18/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.



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you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.




mario, what part of this don't you understand?

Your wonderful friend in all likelihood sold you a potentially lethal drug, crossed a serious red line no one should forgive, and you don't care.... because he's such a good dealer. :shrug:

Do you realize what your reasoning looks like to other viewers of this forum? It's the classical example of how not to think about drugs. I'm very sorry if this is not a nice thing to say, but we are here for the purpose of harm reduction.

Harm reduction man, it means reducing the harm. You're not helping. And what's worse, you don't even seem to understand.

This week, some other poor soul in the NL is going to trip on your great friend's nbome, and possibly get hurt. But you don't care, cause he's such a good friend.

I don't know if you have a little kid brother you care about, but if you do, plz imagine him being nbomed by your dealer friend.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
    #23358774 - 06/18/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, the dude literally jeopardized your life, and presumably will continue to jeopardize the lives of other people trying to buy good ol' honest-to-God LSD.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Matai]
    #23358826 - 06/18/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Seriously buy a test kit and test it in front of him, maybe he legit thinks its L too and is getting ripped of by his dealer :shrug:

Though the "blotter in a mdma bag" excuse seems like a big red flag honestly... There is no good reason why anyone would ever do that. Even if you had to just put the blotter in tinfoil then in the bag and wallah, no gross tasting blotters if that is even really possible :lol: The LSA part is another red flag. I have heard of LSA on blotter but it is pretty damn rare and would be a waste to mix with L anyways.

"Tripled dipped" could be code for "3 different nbomes" too as I have seen blotter like that for sale... :facepalm3:


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23358867 - 06/18/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

My friend had LSA extract, really clean, which was sold to him in vial form as lsd. He had doubts after testing it, I think he took 5-6 hit, and he gave me 10 hits to try, telling me it felt weaker than what it should be. It definitely wasn't lsd, and our educated guess is that it was LSA since it felt a whole lot like lsd but very light visuals


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: GreyPsyche]
    #23358882 - 06/18/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sounds like Nbome, I've got 19 hits of the stuff and I don't know what to do with it. I tried it once and it was bitter as shit and made me dizzy as you described. It's definitely not healthy. I don't want the stuff but can't bring myself to get rid of it because the money spent...




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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23358883 - 06/18/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah that sounds about right, I could see people trying to make some quick $ who are knowledgeable in extracts doing something like that...

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I wonder why they wouldn't just sell it as LSA though? To get more $ maybe?


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23358899 - 06/18/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah the original seller wanted like $400 for the "100 mic 100 hit vial" now I get 300 mic hits for 450 a sheet, from a different much more trustworthy source.

But why would a dealer sell something that isn't, as the real deal, to people who are very knowledgeable? That would be like a pot dealer selling oregano, which is easily discernable from weed. In a similar sense, it was easy for us to figure it wasn't lsd but something similar and weaker


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23358911 - 06/18/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah sounds like he was just trying to get paid then :lol:

I guess even if he only has one time customers 10 people at 400 a piece is 4K and he could make that pretty quick I would assume :shrug:

Definitely not a good business move though.

Speaking of LSA, OP I know you said you want to stop using drugs after your next MDMA experience but you should consider looking into LSA if you have not.

It is very cheap and easy to acquire any of the 3 plants that have natural lysergamides, 2 of the plants have ancient histories of shamanism too.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23358915 - 06/18/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Taking LSA and knowing its LSA is pretty awesome. I feel a strong spirit with the morning glories, which is why sometimes I chose to trip on them when I have better stuff


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23358938 - 06/18/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I know what you mean about the spirit, I usually get really mellow meditative like effects from LSA but it can certainly have a unique energy to it.

Sadly most of my experience is with HBWR which while nice doesn't have the same history as morning glories and Rivea Corymbosa.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23358955 - 06/18/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

OP, what's done is done.  don't beat yourself up over it, we've done that for you

talk to you dealer about taking that shit off the market, or at least selling it as probable nbome, and def not L


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LuzaW]
    #23359285 - 06/18/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

OP should of listened to Hanz. :lolcat:

I wanna second, go get a testkit, and test your next pickup in front of your guy. Dont be afraid to test in front of people, tell them what happened last time and tell them it takes 2 SECONDS! If they get really mad, they need to go asap ect,then more likely than not they knew its not LSD and some dirty drug.

My buddy came and seen me and I threw him some tabs. Next day he said he thought they were DOC/DOM. Apparently it had some sort of a taste and was super strong, i havn't tried this batch yet but it tested purple for lysergamides. It could of been a RC but not sure which lysergamides will react.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: GreyPsyche]
    #23359337 - 06/18/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sounds like Nbome, I've got 19 hits of the stuff and I don't know what to do with it. I tried it once and it was bitter as shit and made me dizzy as you described. It's definitely not healthy. I don't want the stuff but can't bring myself to get rid of it because the money spent...



just throw it out dude, lol @ "the money spent on 19 tabs"

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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23360047 - 06/19/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ok guys, look, I just finished chatting with my dealer. He told me that yesterday he took half a tab from the same tab I got the whole thing, he said I was right about the strange taste he's never encountered before, and he said that he is amazed that I was able to survive 1 whole tab, because he said that he shared 1 tab into two parts (half-half) with his girlfriend and they both got rekt-fked up. He said he is very angry at his dealer and will tell him now to not give him bullsh*t again or he won't get from him again, and not to give him tabs with taste. He told me sorry, that it wasn't his fault because he doesn't really make the tabs he sells, he gets it from his dealer and he only sells it to his friends, not random people, his friends including me and my friends and his friends that I haven't met... He's not a street dealer, he's a friend with connections me and my friends trust to have him to bring us the drugs he buys from his dealers who are bigger, because we really don't want to get involved with them, we may get in a lot of trouble, so he is like the middle guy. He is also a college student...
He told me that from now on he will be very concerned about what he sells because he doesn't want anything bad to happen and end up in jail. He says that I was the first one to ever give him a bad review about a drug, but when he took the half tab himself, he understood I was right because that tab was very fked up... Anyways, I don't even know the guy or guys he buys his stuff from or their name, so I couldn't do anything more. Go to the hospital about the fact that I took the drug, I would go if the bad side effects continued, but they are over now and I'm good, and I won't go to the hospital if the situation is not that bad because who knows what the hospital will do, maybe they will file me, maybe they will tell my college, maybe my family or rehab centers, who knows, to be honest, not even some of my closest friends know that I even smoke weed, it's something I do between myself and some of my other close friends that do the same stuff, anyways the thing is that since the situation hasn't gone that bad I don't want to go further with this and go to hospitals or put my dealer in trouble, and he won't sell the same tabs to anyone again, so it's alright.
But yeah, just so you guys know, cuz idk about his friend but he probably gives his stuff to many people who then resell it, and actually if I had to guess, my dealer's dealer isn't even the original dealer himself, there is exchange between this stuff and there is probably more of them going on in the NL, so have the pictures of these tabs and beware about tabs that look like this, my dealer said that the only thing he knows about them is that they're made in Amsterdam... So yeah, they're probably now going around in Amsterdam so if you encounter tabs like this, I would say to avoid them so that you won't waste your money, since you guys will test it and I know it, just like I will also be doing from now on with testkits, not blacklights...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23360128 - 06/19/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

just tell him to get a test kit


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LuzaW]
    #23360427 - 06/19/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.




:whathesaid: This ^^^^^

The mentality that some kids have; "well I survived, so whatever". :rolleyes::nonono: The point is that many research chems are dangerous, many have killed. OP, if your friend was sold an RC under false pretenses & is now doing the same he needs to be made aware of this. Rather than just shrug it off, the responsible thing would be to test it. Common sense. No one should be buying & selling this stuff without testing it first. It's 2016 & there's no excuse to be passing off RCs as something else with the "I didn't know" attitude. Either use common sense & be responsible, or get out of the drug game. If you're gonna be selfish about things, and don't give a fuck what happens to other people...consider the fact that if someone dies from drugs you give them, you'll be charged with their death. Having blood on your hands & being locked up on a homicide charge because "we already took it & don't want to waste money" is fucking stupid.


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23360605 - 06/19/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I told him, but he is leaving tonight... He says when he comes back in in some weeks he will buy a kit and test it and then tell me, so now let's just wait for him... Ill be back and tell you guys when he tells me what it was, he's not gonna lie, so yeah, free test. Still wonder how it's gonna change anything, but at least ill know what I took for sure, and so later I can be like "I have done LSD and Nbome" so I can tell people the differences, not like "I have done LSD and I think one time Nbome".
Btw, if it actually turns out to be Nbome, what am I supposed to do after? Just tell the dealer to not sell it to anyone again? Because even from now he won't cuz he tried it and didn't like it...
*and btw, my dealer doesn't have a whole blotter, my dealer has his dealer who sells the drugs for one price. He goes and buys the drugs with his own money and then sells it to me or my/his friends for double the price he bought it from his dealer. To give you an idea, it works like, I text him like "hey bro I want some LSD", he'll be like "how many tabs", then ill tell him a random number, like 3 this time, then he'll go to his dealer's house and buy 3 tabs, then the same day we'll meet and ill buy it from him... And he doesn't choose what his dealer will give him, what kind of pills or tabs, it's the kinds he has at that time...


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
    #23361264 - 06/19/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well, that is interesting to hear.

But I'm still amazed that shady tabs are apparently being tested by... eating them :facepalm:

I feel like I'm saying the obvious, but shady tabs should be tested by ... testing them.

Imagine I gave some tabs to a friend, he ate them, felt bad, now comes back to me saying they might be nbome. And what do I do to see if he's right? I eat some myself :facepalm:

I'm sorry, all this makes me feel a little desperate. Where is the common sense?? :rolleyes:

OP, don't you want to help others like you? Get some of these bad tabs to dancesafe.org in the NL, and get some of them to Jellinek. They can put out the message that these tabs are going around. Now THAT would be harm reduction at its finest.

Jellinek in the NL is doing this right now with a number of bad tabs going around, some with DOC on them, some with nbome.

Also, about testing in front of a dealer: there are simple compounds that you can lay on a tab to make it test positive on an Ehrlich reagent. Getting the positive Ehrlich is a good start, but not conclusive. To be sure you have to send it to a good lab. This is both easy and cheap in the NL.

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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
    #23361276 - 06/19/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That is why I think more people should buy multiple reagents tests, sending stuff to a lab is the best clearly but is not always as plausible for some.


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    #23362908 - 06/20/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah... My dealer doesn't really care about his health at all...
I guess I could have done that, I shouldn't have throw them away... I wasn't thinking properly the next day after that tab I was really really dumb the whole day, I couldn't think. There is a bad comedown from these, like 50 times worse that MDMA. You just feel weird, like you burned your brain, you can't function, you feel angry and sorry for yourself. Yeah, avoid everything untested...


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    #23398202 - 06/30/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yup, just confirmed to be Nbome or at least something that didnt react to the test...
That's too bad.. I was expecting it though, cuz even if this tab did give me somewhat more visuals than LSD, I do remember that through out the whole experience, I didn't have that feeling that LSD gives you, that feeling where you feel as if you have a great idea that would change the world, and plus when I'm on LSD I tend to think a lot, and I mean, a lot, about many stuff, getting very deeply into my unconsciousness, thinking about myself and my life and even question my own existance, it's like I feel everything at the same time, you feel peace, you feel as if you want to make others happier, whenever I'm on LSD and I see homeless people I go and give them money for food for water, anything that would make someone happier, I once went and picked up all of the garbage from parks and threw them in the garbage and recycle bins, it's like you go back to your original goal as a human being before all the brainwashings about war and hatred towards each other began, if theres a God then why did it make our species the smartest ones on the planet, to make this world a better place, and instead of doing things that would make us feel good, such as love between each other and peace towards everything, we actually do what makes us feel bad, such as war and hatred, violance, if you pass a good message to the world they will lock you up in a cage, this isn't normal... Can I ask why are we doing that to ourselves? I promise I will be the best person in the world and share my happiness with everyone to make the world a better place, and theres no reason not to, it will feel better for me and for everyone, it's the only truth... wait, oooh
I'm sorry, I think I got a lot off topic, I ate a very little amount of these hollandia truffles some hours ago for a small buzz but they got me really nicely after I smoked some weed. Yeahh... So anyways, where I was going with this, LSD makes me go into this deep thinking A LOT, plus has the visuals, whereas with Nbome there was no deep thinking about anything, only visuals, and the feeling of dissociation. Plus in the end of the LSD trip you feel as if you accomplished a very successful day, whereas with this nbome tab I took, before I went to sleep I was praying that this would finish, I was feeling like if my brain had just received a chemical psychedelic overload and I would see patterns when I closed my eyes and hear sounds of electrical birds when I tried to sleep. The next day after LSD I tend to feel my brain as if it's tired like a muscle which you haven't worked out for a long time, my brain is tired like it was working out all day (and it was), with Nbome your brain feels as if you threw a bunch of chemicals in it and burned it, after you wake up you cant even think or function for a couple of hours and later you feel weird all day... Anyways,
Pass the love my bros :heart: :biggrin: :heart: :biggrin: :heart:


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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
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Glad to hear you are alright at least and sounds like you learned a good lesson :thumbup: Best of luck to you in the future getting better drugs!


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