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marioeatsamanitas
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
#23358229 - 06/18/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Testing it wouldn't have changed the fact I took it, it would only let me to waste more money for a test...and since I wasn't gonna take it again or give it to anyone, theres was no reason to check it... Nothing would change if I tested it and it was nbome, I wouldn't go to the doctor about it, and just learning what I took isn't of my interest since I already took it anyways, won't change a thing... Eh but anyways from now on I will test all of this... Seriously theres not even a single really trusting dealer, only the frikin coffeeshops and smartshops are trusted dealers...
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23358301 - 06/18/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep, that's why I rarely enjoy substances anymore.
Even my pot dealer shorts me a hair buying any quantity. The only dealer I trust is way overpriced.
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Hanz
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23358380 - 06/18/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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marioeatsamanitas said: Testing it wouldn't have changed the fact I took it, it would only let me to waste more money for a test...and since I wasn't gonna take it again or give it to anyone, theres was no reason to check it... Nothing would change if I tested it and it was nbome, I wouldn't go to the doctor about it, and just learning what I took isn't of my interest since I already took it anyways, won't change a thing... Eh but anyways from now on I will test all of this... Seriously theres not even a single really trusting dealer, only the frikin coffeeshops and smartshops are trusted dealers...
I'm sorry, you have evidently missed my point.
You're not seeing a doctor now. But you certainly will should there be some permanent form of damage or really severe symptoms. Saying you will never need a doctor is tough-guy logic. You will need one when you need one.
If you feel nothing would change now by testing it after the fact, then IMO you have not understood what harm reduction actually means.
If someone slipped you an unknown poison with the intent to kill you then I'm certain you would have had it tested. The police officer working on your case would have. And so would the autopsy doc. It's a crucial piece of evidence. You destroyed that evidence.
And now you're saying it doesn't matter, and you don't care. I stand by my case that it does matter, and you should care.
Hanz.
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marioeatsamanitas
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
#23358427 - 06/18/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eh idk bro, and I really don't wanna get my dealer in trouble, he is a friend of mine and all my friends and me love him cuz he is the only one who has really clean drugs, like really good molly or x pills for example, made here, and one of his friends also sells weed from strange strains that coffeeshops don't have, like Green Crack and 3 other cool American strains, and it's nice to smoke stuff that you can't find in shops... So yeah, even if it was evidence, I wouldn't use it against him... He was sure this was LSD... And anyways, yesterday I was feeling better than 2 days ago and today I felt even better even though I was also supposed to have a rough comedown, since I took like 300+mg of MDMA yesterday night, and I still didn't get a comedown, probably I will get it on Monday cuz that's what happened both the two previous times I took x, I got the comedown on Tuesday...
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas] 1
#23358487 - 06/18/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23358628 - 06/18/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its not about getting him in "trouble" its about preventing what happened to you from happening to others, or worse.
What if some wreckless kids buy a few hits from that dealer as "acid" then decide to eat 3-4 hits for whatever reason and die or suffer serious damage...
At the very least you should test it and tell the dealer if what he has is fake. Maybe he is getting ripped off too who knows.
As for a test kit being a waste of money... For 30$ you can get 3 different reagents to accurately test most drugs, for 30$ you get enough for probably 50-100 tests...
How is that a waste of money? Wouldn't you want to avoid this situation in the future? You could test that MDMA too to make sure you don't get a fucked up stim.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LuzaW]
#23358651 - 06/18/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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LuzaW said: you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.
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LuzaW said: you could have had it tested, SHOWED THE RESULTS TO YOUR DEALER FRIEND, and maybe have gotten some of that shit off the street and out of the mouths of others.
mario, what part of this don't you understand?
Your wonderful friend in all likelihood sold you a potentially lethal drug, crossed a serious red line no one should forgive, and you don't care.... because he's such a good dealer.
Do you realize what your reasoning looks like to other viewers of this forum? It's the classical example of how not to think about drugs. I'm very sorry if this is not a nice thing to say, but we are here for the purpose of harm reduction.
Harm reduction man, it means reducing the harm. You're not helping. And what's worse, you don't even seem to understand.
This week, some other poor soul in the NL is going to trip on your great friend's nbome, and possibly get hurt. But you don't care, cause he's such a good friend.
I don't know if you have a little kid brother you care about, but if you do, plz imagine him being nbomed by your dealer friend.
Hanz.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
#23358774 - 06/18/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, the dude literally jeopardized your life, and presumably will continue to jeopardize the lives of other people trying to buy good ol' honest-to-God LSD.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Matai]
#23358826 - 06/18/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seriously buy a test kit and test it in front of him, maybe he legit thinks its L too and is getting ripped of by his dealer 
Though the "blotter in a mdma bag" excuse seems like a big red flag honestly... There is no good reason why anyone would ever do that. Even if you had to just put the blotter in tinfoil then in the bag and wallah, no gross tasting blotters if that is even really possible The LSA part is another red flag. I have heard of LSA on blotter but it is pretty damn rare and would be a waste to mix with L anyways.
"Tripled dipped" could be code for "3 different nbomes" too as I have seen blotter like that for sale...
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420]
#23358867 - 06/18/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My friend had LSA extract, really clean, which was sold to him in vial form as lsd. He had doubts after testing it, I think he took 5-6 hit, and he gave me 10 hits to try, telling me it felt weaker than what it should be. It definitely wasn't lsd, and our educated guess is that it was LSA since it felt a whole lot like lsd but very light visuals
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: GreyPsyche]
#23358882 - 06/18/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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GreyPsyche said: Sounds like Nbome, I've got 19 hits of the stuff and I don't know what to do with it. I tried it once and it was bitter as shit and made me dizzy as you described. It's definitely not healthy. I don't want the stuff but can't bring myself to get rid of it because the money spent...
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musiclover420
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23358883 - 06/18/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah that sounds about right, I could see people trying to make some quick $ who are knowledgeable in extracts doing something like that...

I wonder why they wouldn't just sell it as LSA though? To get more $ maybe?
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420]
#23358899 - 06/18/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah the original seller wanted like $400 for the "100 mic 100 hit vial" now I get 300 mic hits for 450 a sheet, from a different much more trustworthy source.
But why would a dealer sell something that isn't, as the real deal, to people who are very knowledgeable? That would be like a pot dealer selling oregano, which is easily discernable from weed. In a similar sense, it was easy for us to figure it wasn't lsd but something similar and weaker
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23358911 - 06/18/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah sounds like he was just trying to get paid then 
I guess even if he only has one time customers 10 people at 400 a piece is 4K and he could make that pretty quick I would assume 
Definitely not a good business move though.
Speaking of LSA, OP I know you said you want to stop using drugs after your next MDMA experience but you should consider looking into LSA if you have not.
It is very cheap and easy to acquire any of the 3 plants that have natural lysergamides, 2 of the plants have ancient histories of shamanism too.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23358915 - 06/18/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Taking LSA and knowing its LSA is pretty awesome. I feel a strong spirit with the morning glories, which is why sometimes I chose to trip on them when I have better stuff
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musiclover420
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Mike4aco]
#23358938 - 06/18/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know what you mean about the spirit, I usually get really mellow meditative like effects from LSA but it can certainly have a unique energy to it.
Sadly most of my experience is with HBWR which while nice doesn't have the same history as morning glories and Rivea Corymbosa.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: musiclover420]
#23358955 - 06/18/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP, what's done is done. don't beat yourself up over it, we've done that for you
talk to you dealer about taking that shit off the market, or at least selling it as probable nbome, and def not L
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LuzaW]
#23359285 - 06/18/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP should of listened to Hanz. 
I wanna second, go get a testkit, and test your next pickup in front of your guy. Dont be afraid to test in front of people, tell them what happened last time and tell them it takes 2 SECONDS! If they get really mad, they need to go asap ect,then more likely than not they knew its not LSD and some dirty drug.
My buddy came and seen me and I threw him some tabs. Next day he said he thought they were DOC/DOM. Apparently it had some sort of a taste and was super strong, i havn't tried this batch yet but it tested purple for lysergamides. It could of been a RC but not sure which lysergamides will react.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: GreyPsyche]
#23359337 - 06/18/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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GreyPsyche said: Sounds like Nbome, I've got 19 hits of the stuff and I don't know what to do with it. I tried it once and it was bitter as shit and made me dizzy as you described. It's definitely not healthy. I don't want the stuff but can't bring myself to get rid of it because the money spent...
just throw it out dude, lol @ "the money spent on 19 tabs"
u've got to learn the value of a dollar son.
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marioeatsamanitas
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23360047 - 06/19/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok guys, look, I just finished chatting with my dealer. He told me that yesterday he took half a tab from the same tab I got the whole thing, he said I was right about the strange taste he's never encountered before, and he said that he is amazed that I was able to survive 1 whole tab, because he said that he shared 1 tab into two parts (half-half) with his girlfriend and they both got rekt-fked up. He said he is very angry at his dealer and will tell him now to not give him bullsh*t again or he won't get from him again, and not to give him tabs with taste. He told me sorry, that it wasn't his fault because he doesn't really make the tabs he sells, he gets it from his dealer and he only sells it to his friends, not random people, his friends including me and my friends and his friends that I haven't met... He's not a street dealer, he's a friend with connections me and my friends trust to have him to bring us the drugs he buys from his dealers who are bigger, because we really don't want to get involved with them, we may get in a lot of trouble, so he is like the middle guy. He is also a college student... He told me that from now on he will be very concerned about what he sells because he doesn't want anything bad to happen and end up in jail. He says that I was the first one to ever give him a bad review about a drug, but when he took the half tab himself, he understood I was right because that tab was very fked up... Anyways, I don't even know the guy or guys he buys his stuff from or their name, so I couldn't do anything more. Go to the hospital about the fact that I took the drug, I would go if the bad side effects continued, but they are over now and I'm good, and I won't go to the hospital if the situation is not that bad because who knows what the hospital will do, maybe they will file me, maybe they will tell my college, maybe my family or rehab centers, who knows, to be honest, not even some of my closest friends know that I even smoke weed, it's something I do between myself and some of my other close friends that do the same stuff, anyways the thing is that since the situation hasn't gone that bad I don't want to go further with this and go to hospitals or put my dealer in trouble, and he won't sell the same tabs to anyone again, so it's alright. But yeah, just so you guys know, cuz idk about his friend but he probably gives his stuff to many people who then resell it, and actually if I had to guess, my dealer's dealer isn't even the original dealer himself, there is exchange between this stuff and there is probably more of them going on in the NL, so have the pictures of these tabs and beware about tabs that look like this, my dealer said that the only thing he knows about them is that they're made in Amsterdam... So yeah, they're probably now going around in Amsterdam so if you encounter tabs like this, I would say to avoid them so that you won't waste your money, since you guys will test it and I know it, just like I will also be doing from now on with testkits, not blacklights...
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