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marioeatsamanitas
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Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab?
#23350298 - 06/16/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So a week ago I met with my dealer who supposedly got these tripple dosed tabs of LSD... I bought 3. 1 to do by myself here since it's my last week here, I'm leaving next week to my home country for the summer. The other 2 me and my friend who will be his first time doing LSD, we will probably take it in about month+ from now. The tab was a bit larger than usual tabs I've seen. Usually in my life, I always want to make sure that I have tested my drugs, but with LSD I usually don't test them through a test kit, I just glow some blacklight over the tab and see if it glows, because I also trust my dealer a lot since he's also a friend of mine, kinda like Saul and Dale, and also takes the same drugs he sells and wouldn't give bad stuff. I always buy the LSD from the same guy, but everytime they are different tabs, anyways, when I put them under the blacklight, it glows, it actually, to me, always glowed, which showed me it's LSD. Yesterday before I took the tab I went inside a dark room and pointed the blacklight over the tab. It glowed like usual, and I was happy that this is probably LSD, since they say the Nbome doesn't glow on blacklights. I remember in my whole life, when I have taken LSD the tab had 0 taste, not even a little, which sometimes even had me thinking that I got ripped off before the effects started.
Anyways, so, yesterday, I go out downtown with my bike, praying that the tab is LSD and not Nbome, because I always have some concerns about everything, and so I put the tab under my tongue. Immidiately after I put the tab under my tongue I got a really really bitter, almost burning taste, that numbed my mouth, and I immidiately got really scared and took out the tab. I immidiately texted my dealer and told him that this might not be LSD, this was very bitter and burned my mouth. He told me he is sure it's LSD, and that LSD is sometimes bitter when it is very strong, and he also said that he is sure that the tab contains some LSA, and also the ink of the tab may be a chemical that burns... Anyways, later he called me and he told me that his dealer told him that indeed it is the strongest LSD tab he ever had. So I was like, eh, what ever, even if it's Nbome it can't be that bad, and plus it's an opportunity to see how that also feels like so I can like compare them later... So I put the tab back in my mouth. It got uncomfortably bitter, but I held it... The whole time I was just praying that it's LSD. The first effects started after like 40 minutes, just got some watery eyes, and I never remember having watery eyes from LSD so I was kinda concerned at this point. At that point I had met with my tripsitters and told them that I may have gotten something that isn't LSD and it may f*k me up. We went and sat down, and I was just feeling really really weird, not good, kinda dizzy. My face got a bit numb, kinda like with alcohol, about an hour after I took the tab. The whole time I was very very worried, and I was just trying to keep myself chill so I won't have a bad trip. Anyways, I was feeling pretty dizzy, until 1:30 hours from the time I took the tab passed, and the trip started. I wasn't feeling very dizzy anymore... The trip was exactly like the other trips I've had on LSD, just stronger, the effects and headspace were the same, the taste in my mouth, sensation, patterns (more patterns this time), trippy stuff changing morphs and colors, all this kinds of stuff, they were exactly the same with LSD, so at that point I was chill and texted my dealer that it is probably LSD afterall, just really strong, he told me told ya'... The trip, sensations and visuals were exactly the same with my previous LSD trips, couldn't tell a difference, and my pupils were also very dilated like usual. The trip lasted from the moment I took it, 12:30PM until like 5AM that I finally achieved sleeping a bit even though even when I closed my eyes I would see patterns. That's what LSD tends to do to me everytime, I always feel it for longer than 12 hours, much longer. Today I woke up with the usual hangover I get from LSD. Overall it wasn't a bad experience, it was stronger than previous ones but I knew it was gonna be stronger since it supposedly had more ug than other times...
And so here I am now to ask you experienced guys, what do you think I took according to all of this info? What if the tab was actually a mix of LSD and Nbome? Is this a possibility?
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23350449 - 06/16/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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most likely no one can tell you for sure what youve taken but imo sounds like nbome due to the numbing
Edited by connectedcosmos (06/16/16 10:19 AM)
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas] 1
#23350506 - 06/16/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You took NBOME. Paper glows under a blacklight, the blacklight test is not reliable. There's also no such thing as triple-dipped tabs, and nobody lays LSA onto blotter. Your guy, and the guy he got it from, are both dipshits. Don't buy from them again
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marioeatsamanitas
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: connectedcosmos]
#23350513 - 06/16/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah... I am also afraid so that it was nbome.. Plus today actually isn't the usual LSD hangover, today I just feel so angry and almost suicidal for some reason, and I am also very slow fuctioning, I can't think well... I don't know what's wrong. Usully after LSD I feel smarter not dumber...
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: connectedcosmos] 1
#23350526 - 06/16/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hard to say because there are so many different analogs but it def wasn't LSD...it is absolutely tasteless and not numbing.
I had to laugh about what you said about alcohol numbing...The only thing that alcohol numbed for me was my good intentions and common sense...lol, they both went out the window.
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marioeatsamanitas
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23351166 - 06/16/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My dealer just told me, that his dealer told him that the tab was burning cuz it was inside a bag of MDMA crystals.... But the taste wasn't like MDMA, it was like chemical burning, what do you giys think about this?
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23351229 - 06/16/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most likely an Nbome dude. Your dealer is a piece of shit
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice] 1
#23351331 - 06/16/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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mario, none of us can tell for certain what you took, but you can. You've got the other 2 tabs left, right? Well, have them tested man.
No black light, but at least with Ehrlich, or have them sent to a lab. You're in the NL, so you can go to GGD or jellinek, and pay only 2.50e for a test. Takes a week, then you get the results by phone. It's 100% anonymous, and the labs are professional, I think DSM, that big chem company does the testing.
All in all your post surprised me a little. This was not the way to do it. I always buy enough to both test and trip, then only trip after the test. And that story about bitter lsd, and lsa on a tab, and whatever, that is all totally sketchy. Also, that whole chain of dealers above you will tell each other anything, they have no stake in this and don't care for one bit if you ask me.
OT, what is your country of origin btw, and for how long will you be in the NL again when you come back? (if you don't mind me asking)
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
#23351384 - 06/16/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That stuff about the taste that the dealer said sounds like a bunch of random bullshit. Totally 25i - that strong numbing taste... bleh I'd be tempted to test a tab and call em out if there's a good test kit for nbome v LSD My 25i trips have all been really wacky and confusing. Biggest difference in effects I've noticed is nbome's strange body sensations and the complete elimination of short term memory
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: trippyfish]
#23351414 - 06/16/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ehrlich is a good test, isn't it?
Or he can have it lab tested, that's not too hard in the NL, and very affordable too.
Though they did ask two consecutive tabs last time I went and had my stuff tested. For some reason the tabs still had to be connected, to make them sure they'd have enough of a single batch I suppose.
Either way, test that stuff.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: trippyfish]
#23351570 - 06/16/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I don't need to test it, because one thing's for sure, whatever it was it was too much and I don't want to do it again... Today I felt like shit all day, in the beggining of the day I couldn't even open my sink to brush my teeth, I had diarrhea all day every 10 minutes, I am still hearing some strange electrical bird sounds inside my head (which is not stopping and it's driving me nuts) and some things still move a bit, yesterday before I went to sleep I was shaking in my bed from cold sensations even though the room was hot, I went out today with my friends because 2 of them are leaving tomorrow for their home country, and when I was outside even though it was a chill weather I was feeling a strange sensation of heat, it is a really bad situation, when I was taking a shower earlier I was so sad I was almost crying, I was like, I destroyed my brain or something...  And so I threw the tabs in the toilet. Basically wasted 30 euros... Even if I tested them and they were Lsd, this Lsd was too fked up for me and I wouldn't do it again, and even if it tested to be nbome it can't change the past and take back the fact that I took it... One thing's for sure, won't be buying Lsd from this dude again, and I will always eztest my tabs before I take them, even though, after tomorrow where ill go to a rave with my friends and ill take some x, it will be the last time in months I'm doing drugs, I have got so much short term memory since I started taking them, when I used to be really smart now I can't even think, and the cherry on the cake is that sht tab that messed up my brain, so yeah, after tomorrow ill take a break from that stuff...
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: Hanz]
#23353309 - 06/17/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hanz said: mario, none of us can tell for certain what you took, but you can. You've got the other 2 tabs left, right? Well, have them tested man.
No black light, but at least with Ehrlich, or have them sent to a lab. You're in the NL, so you can go to GGD or jellinek, and pay only 2.50e for a test. Takes a week, then you get the results by phone. It's 100% anonymous, and the labs are professional, I think DSM, that big chem company does the testing.
All in all your post surprised me a little. This was not the way to do it. I always buy enough to both test and trip, then only trip after the test.
The OP's post actually angers me. 99 percent of us don't live in the Netherlands and have would love to have access to this kind of testing. Getting nbomed in the Netherlands should never happen.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: my3rdeye]
#23353379 - 06/17/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You really believe the dealer when he says the burning sensation was because the blotter was sitting in a bag with mdma?
More than likely it was nbome.
Tell the dealer he isnt selling lsd. Its a research chemical of some sort. Or just cut him off completely.
Most dealers IME are just idiots and they truly believe they have LSD because they dont reagent test their products. Others know and just dont care. They are all assholes.
Buy a test kit for now on to be safe. I need to do the same. I dont even bother trying to get lsd right now because in my area it just doesnt seem to exist. Only time i got real lsd was from a trusted friend who mailed it to me... Good guy.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: ak47myth]
#23353435 - 06/17/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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that's why you buy your synthetic psychs from the darknet, folks.
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marioeatsamanitas
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: ak47myth]
#23353838 - 06/17/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha, the dealer actually believes that it is LSD, and he says that today he will also eat the same tab that I did to see how it'll be like. He says that his dealer many times puts his tabs inside bags of MDMA and he's seen him himself. But I am 100% sure that this was nbome... Yeah, ill test my sh*ts from now on always, at least I'm feeling much better today  Also, I wanna post a picture of the 2 tabs, because they had a molecule symbol on top, and I want someone here to maybe identify what molecule it is by structure, but Ill post it tomorrow cuz I don't have much time right now, I gtg get haircut and then rave
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23354148 - 06/17/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah post the tab for sure! was it dyed pink?
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: connectedcosmos]
#23357025 - 06/18/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here, they were like this. There is a molecule on top, I couldn't guess which molecule it could have been but to me it doesn't look like the LSD molecule... Anyways, if someone could guess which one it could be, tell meh 

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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: marioeatsamanitas]
#23358047 - 06/18/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like Nbome, I've got 19 hits of the stuff and I don't know what to do with it. I tried it once and it was bitter as shit and made me dizzy as you described. It's definitely not healthy. I don't want the stuff but can't bring myself to get rid of it because the money spent...
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: GreyPsyche]
#23358054 - 06/18/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Buy the 10$ testkit...damn.
Ive had white on white that has made my tongue just a tiny bit numb, tested good, it wasn't over powering, but i noticed it just a lil bit.
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Re: Did I take LSD or Nbome? Can there be a bitter LSD tab, or a glowing Nbome tab? [Re: LSDollar] 1
#23358134 - 06/18/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide
Your picture is consistent with the structure of lsd. Look at the wikipedia link, the top part of that molecule is similar to your fragments.
That doesn't mean a thing of course, it's just a print.
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And so I threw the tabs in the toilet. Basically wasted 30 euros...
This too, I regret to say, is not the way to do it. I understand you acted in disappointment, even anger, but what you did now is not just wasting 30 euros, but destroy a crucial piece of evidence. You had the chance to obtain valuable information, and you threw it away. Now you'll never know what you took. Imagine you are stuck with some kind of permanent damage, see a doctor in 4 weeks, and they ask you about it. They will want to know, but you destroyed the evidence. Such a shame.
In the name of science, always test, always test.
I even have a bunch of dirty cathinones in my collection (though not nbomes yet) Not to take them of course, but to compare reagents test on the real stuff with these dirty chems. It gives me a chance to discover what I'm doing. Knowledge is power. You denied yourself this power.
I'd be fascinated to actually test dirty nbomes. And fix in my mind the sensation I got from them. That way, next time, if you ever get nbomed again (god forbid) you have as much knowledge as possible.
Finally, the test people love to get shady drugs, and test them. It helps prevent accidents if they know this drug is in circulation. They might even put a picture on some webpage or poster somewhere. They do so with pill, so why not tabs.
Sorry OP, don't mean to sound mean after what happened to you, but this whole exercise was poorly executed.
Much love anyway. Hanz.
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