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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: koods]
    #23351543 - 06/16/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That was my issue when I last took MDMA. I was 210 pounds and took 125mg pure MDMA and it really didn't feel like a proper roll.

I plan on taking 200mg once my 3 month break is over.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: koods]
    #23351544 - 06/16/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

OOH are you watching that movie next weekend?  Show it to sheekle too!!


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23351616 - 06/16/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

125 mgs of pure MDMA is a hefty ass dose.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351660 - 06/16/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Not especially for my weight. 1-2mg of MDMA per kg of body weight is a safe dose.

A good way to calculate one's best dose is to take your body weight in kg, divide by 2, and add 90. 210 pounds is a bit under 100kg divided by 2 is 50, plus 90 is 140, so 140mg is a solid, middle of the road dose.

I undershot that dose a little (and I had had the MDMA for a year so it may have lost some potency) so the roll was underwhelming.

I've lot some weight since then and I have some newer, pure MDMA so I'm gonna dose a bit higher to get a strong roll.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23351668 - 06/16/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I know plenty of folks that weigh over 200 lbs that are floored by 125 mgs.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351676 - 06/16/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I guess this MDMA lost more potency than I thought :shrug:

I tested it twice with Marquis and Mandelin kits so I know it's pure MDMA, but I'd been sitting on it for a while so it could've definitely lost some potency.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid] * 1
    #23351684 - 06/16/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

MDMA doesn't lose potency. Might've been not as pure as you were led to believe. The reagents don't test purity; just what it is. Gotta send it to a lab to see what the purity is.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351701 - 06/16/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I was under the impression that the speed with which the chemical reacts to the reagent and changes color factored into the purity of the substance.

I dropped this in the vial, put one or two drops of the reagent in, and it immediately began to turn dark purple/black and fizz/bubble, as it seems like it's supposed to do. I could very well be mistaken about whether the speed of the reaction matters though :shrug:


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23351708 - 06/16/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'd imagine it's also possible that I'm naturally more tolerant to MDMA. This was only my second roll, my first was 2 years ago while on a strong hit of LSD and what I was told was 100mg of pure MDMA rocked me.

This roll might've just felt weaker in comparison since LSD and MDMA potentiate each other, so I'd it'd make sense that this felt underwhelming in comparison.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23351712 - 06/16/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Nah, people put way too much weight on the reaction time. Gotta be lab tested to really know the purity. You might just be less sensitive to MDMA. That happens, it's just not necessarily related to weight. For medicine & research dosing is done by weight, but that's not always an accurate tell.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351720 - 06/16/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Good to know, thanks man! I figure if I incrementally raise my dose, I'll find one that works well for me.

100mg was perfect for adding onto a psychedelic though :love:


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23351732 - 06/16/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's also worth noting that MDMA is a feeling. It's not gonna fuck you up like other drugs do....not unless you take way too much.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351778 - 06/16/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I'm with ya on that. I also think my setting wasn't great. I was in a club and just didn't feel like dancing. I would've much rather been relaxing with close friends.

I expected it to be more stimulating than it was, I think because LSD is very stimulating for me and the combo of the two blew me away. It was the most cathartic experience I had had up until that point in my life and I broke out of my shell and spent the night dancing because I was rolling and stimulated.

Next time I take MDMA I'm gonna take a slightly larger dose (probably around 150mg) with a close friend or my girlfriend in a chill environment.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351809 - 06/16/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Damn. Sounds like its gonna be a wild party for you guys.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: I Love Lucid] * 1
    #23351815 - 06/16/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah MDMA isn't stimulating. I mean it has stimulant effects in the body, but the subjective effects are actually relaxing. I like taking it at shows/fests, but prefer it at small gatherings.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23351986 - 06/16/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

small mdma lovefests... yum..


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: TheMovement]
    #23352024 - 06/16/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, MDMA is just as good at a show as it is with a small group of people chillin.

I love taking MDA (it's been some years though) on my own though. Those dreams you get on it are something else. Very different kind of effects.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23352339 - 06/16/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I know plenty of folks that weigh over 200 lbs that are floored by 125 mgs.



Body weight is not a significant factor for most drugs. It is important for drugs that diffuse indiscriminately  into body tissues, like alcohol. Drugs like MDMA target specific receptors and aren't diluted by excess body mass:


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: koods]
    #23352366 - 06/16/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. It's still common to dose by bodyweight for research & medicine though.


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Re: EMC EMC EMC THURSDAY THE REAL ONE EMC EMC EMC [Re: koods]
    #23352464 - 06/16/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I know plenty of folks that weigh over 200 lbs that are floored by 125 mgs.



Body weight is not a significant factor for most drugs. It is important for drugs that diffuse indiscriminately  into body tissues, like alcohol. Drugs like MDMA target specific receptors and aren't diluted by excess body mass:



Lipophilic drugs need to be scaled per body weight because they will be absorbed non discriminately by fatty tissue. Mdma is not and it's extremely fast elimination from the body is a testament to this.


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