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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23357325 - 06/18/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Politicians are the very last people that should make those decisions, but we vote to have people educated in rhetoric make decisions that should be made by people with experience.
We stopped electing people with real world experience about a century ago, now all we get are thinkers and nuanced arrogant ruling class paupers who think the country owes them a living
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23357333 - 06/18/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any prohibition of said items will only increase the unregulated markets that do not background check?
Is this really what we want to pass? More unregulated checks?
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon] 1
#23357348 - 06/18/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You Americans will never even think about controlling your favourite toys !!!!! Load of bullshit spoken, but you just like guns so much you will never, ever do anything to stop the slaughter.
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon]
#23357351 - 06/18/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm all for it. the more they pass the easier it gets. lots of nice guns come around often too M&P9 XDM9 M9 often
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Spanishfly] 1
#23357353 - 06/18/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Drunk driving is a huge problem in America, Europe and Australia.
Why aren't you guys banning red wine and liquor? I'll be waiting as the same logic Alcohol is not prohibited Validates why guns should not be....
Edited by Maroon (06/18/16 09:37 AM)
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23357368 - 06/18/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ah well Spain didn't deserve Antonio Tejero and they wouldn't now either
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon]
#23358753 - 06/18/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maroon said: Drunk driving is a huge problem in America, Europe and Australia.
Why aren't you guys banning red wine and liquor? I'll be waiting as the same logic Alcohol is not prohibited Validates why guns should not be....
your logic is elementary at best, simple analogies that aren't really that applicable. and your absolution doesn't help you either.
Here's something to ponder tho, I would bet a very high percentage of public shooters legally access their tools. Being that this is the issue we're trying to put a stop to, your increased criminal marketplace argument has no weight here. I'd be willing to bet more that these dorks couldn't find an illegal semi-automatic rifle if they wanted either. So starting with the point of access for tools to commit mass murder seems like a good place.
Should we start selling over the counter grenade or shoulder fire missiles?
Are you of the type that thinks we should live at gunpoint by everyone else in public?
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon] 1
#23359097 - 06/18/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maroon said: Drunk driving is a huge problem in America, Europe and Australia.
Why aren't you guys banning red wine and liquor? I'll be waiting as the same logic Alcohol is not prohibited Validates why guns should not be....
Your shitty argument has already been refuted.
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23360861 - 06/19/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: ah well Spain didn't deserve Antonio Tejero and they wouldn't now either
WHO ?????
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon]
#23360907 - 06/19/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maroon said: Drunk driving is a huge problem in America, Europe and Australia.
Why aren't you guys banning red wine and liquor? I'll be waiting as the same logic Alcohol is not prohibited Validates why guns should not be....
You gun nuts always come out with the same sort of specious argument. Why not ban cars as well yadda yadda - makes about as much sense - or ladders - or knives - we can go on FOR EVER. But you love your gun - it´s your favourite toy !! Enjoy playing with it.
We can, however, all take comfort in the fact that the person you are FAR more likely to use your gun on is YOURSELF !!! And the sooner the better IMHO.
Shame about the 3000 children killed by guns in the US every year though. But it´s only about 9 a day !!!
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Edited by Spanishfly (06/19/16 01:50 PM)
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Spanishfly]
#23361275 - 06/19/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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i love it when anti gun retards want to ban guns to save lives while at the same time wishing death on 1/3 of the population...
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Skellies]
#23362904 - 06/20/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: every single country that has banned guns... its worked.
Australia's gun homicides dropped slightly but the rate of armed robbery increased and the overall homicide rate just fluctuated. Weather or not it works depends on what the goal is. If your only goal is to reduce gun related death/injury than gun control is great. In Australia you are more likely to be assaulted, burgled, and raped than in the US. Here a potential home invader has to consider if the victim has a firearm in the house which is a huge deterrent. Unsurprisingly, the states with the lowest violent crime rates, including homicide, here are the ones with the most lax gun control.
I'll take a slightly higher chance of being shot (which, statistically speaking, is extremely low anyways) over a more violent society.
Where are you getting your statistics?
Australia has 1 homicide per capita. The US has 4.
So.. Australia is safer.
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Glameow] 1
#23362925 - 06/20/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Given the recent track record of government whether it be fabricating Weapons of mass destruction for false wars or lying about natural healing herbs and fungi, does anyone here trust the government for their best interest over themselves? Honest question
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon] 1
#23362949 - 06/20/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one trust the government.
But easy access to weapons isn't protecting you, it's only making life more dangerous. What is so difficult to understand in that?
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Glameow]
#23362957 - 06/20/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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No it is not. Any limitation of my freedoms is a danger to every member here, what don't you understand about that?!
Any law that oversteps basic rights guaranteed to us in this country sets insane precedent that other rights can be stripped away.
Oh yeah and guns are good against governments who lie about nuclear weapons to start wars for oil
They got Europe and Australia by the balls and know you have to trust this proven lying government for your safety. That's simply pathetic, what don't you understand about that?
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon] 2
#23363042 - 06/20/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've almost got the right not to get shot dead by a microdick with a gun.
Not quite, because a person in New Zealand could still illegally import a gun from a place where the microdicks make the laws, but this is very difficult.
So 95% I've got a right that you do not have. You have to live in fear all the time. Sucks to be you.
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: viktor]
#23363061 - 06/20/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The second amendment, giving liberal crybabies nightmares for two hundred years
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23363078 - 06/20/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Given that the average age of a person murdered by a firearm in America is 25, I'd say it was mostly the mothers and family of the dead who had the nightmares.
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23363079 - 06/20/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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What in the world does the phalic region have anything to do here? I'm lost there
And you only make assumptions. I live in true freedom and have zero fears
Again we know the governments have lied about weapons of mass destruction for wars for oil, they also lied about healing herbs and fungi. So do you really trust them more than yourself for your well being?
America is safer then it's ever been. I couldn't express how happily and free I am at all times and in no way have any fears here.
Guns are good for keeping these lying governments in check (wonder why they want to limit them)
And any precedent of limiting freedoms is dangerous as it opens avenues for other freedoms to be stripped away.
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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Spanishfly]
#23363114 - 06/20/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spanishfly said: Shame about the 3000 children killed by guns in the US every year though.
I'm not sure what ass you pulled that number from but the FBI states that the actual number for under 18 (in 2013) was 1,027
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