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Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op?
#23348690 - 06/15/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see RR and others post about their mushroom farms, and the prices they quote for starting these up seem soo high to me. 100 thousand dollars? For what?
Must be the buildings themselves I figure, since most of them are building from scratch for whatever reason.
I'm clearly missing something here, here's my list of big ticket items:
- Bulk pasteurizer/come-along (all I've seen is the 55 gallon drum design, feel free to inform me of others)
- CO2 Meter, environmental controls, that type of thing. (no clue on whats actually necessary in this category)
- More Pressure Cookers? Whatever commercial places use to sterilize.
- Flowhood
- A vehicle for transporting produce/materials
- Mechanical Assistance? For mixing up subs or whatever
- Humidifiers for fruiting rooms. Timers and electrical rigging.
- Culture Fridge
- Cooler for storing produce
- Agar and all such supplies
- Growbags, lots of em
- Grains/substrate, lots of it
Any input would be much appreciated.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23349185 - 06/15/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rent or mortgage until you make profit, taxes, especially income taxes since you pay tax twice as an employee of your own company. Fees and regulations yearly. Permits to start. When you have a contamination or fuck up your next successful grows profit has to first pay for the deficit before it becomes profit again.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23349356 - 06/16/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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smokin crack. It takes $1k to start a small op, like 5-10 lbs a week, enough to hit up the farmers market and maybe 1-2 small restaurants. $4-5K got me to 150-180lbs/$1.5-2k a month with a 80 sq ft grow chamber and a small shelving chamber. Monthly expenses are around $200 not including power/water.
Check out my threads and my youtube vids if you want to see more about growing for some loot on a small scale.
And Texas has no income tax so your only paying federal.. so i don't know what your talking about. Ill just claim everything as extra income on my return, i highly doubt there going to ding that as double income.
Wrong forum BTW
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23349398 - 06/16/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Normally you pay payroll tax and unimployment insurance as the employer And than as your own employee you pay income, Medicare, SS, etc... Plus sales tax then
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23349429 - 06/16/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's a matter of time and money it does take a huge investment. Time is money and peoples time is money. Running a normal sets of six pressure cookers is a bicth but produces the same results time wise. As the meds autoclaves machines. Cultures are a big money and time spender cost. You can always fine cheap space to grow. But a 100 to 120 k sounds about right. There are some good models. It sounds great but even without paying people my max profit in a month was 18.9%. One government fine a you've lost all your profits for a year http://agridaksh.iasri.res.in/html_file/mushroom/05Mush_spawn_Prod.html
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23349443 - 06/16/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: smokin crack. It takes $1k to start a small op, like 5-10 lbs a week, enough to hit up the farmers market and maybe 1-2 small restaurants. $4-5K got me to 150-180lbs/$1.5-2k a month with a 80 sq ft grow chamber and a small shelving chamber. Monthly expenses are around $200 not including power/water.
Check out my threads and my youtube vids if you want to see more about growing for some loot on a small scale.
And Texas has no income tax so your only paying federal.. so i don't know what your talking about. Ill just claim everything as extra income on my return, i highly doubt there going to ding that as double income.
Wrong forum BTW
thanks for that, I'll definitely be checking your stuff out. Was really hoping they were smoking crack. I would be quite happy around the 5-10 lbs a week scale.
I've got income/sales tax here, hopefully that's not too complicated to deal with.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23350025 - 06/16/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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it takes money to make money. im not sure about 100 grand per-se. i mean im sure RR has invested far more than that in his years.
but even just for my small bulk grows over the years ive invested at least 5grand or more. i just invested another 1grand in supplies for a new grow im starting.
while i havent gotten to actually marketing and selling my gourmet mushies, im sure it will be difficult to profit without a good business plan in place. you need to take risk vs reward and understand what you are, and arent capable of.
i would also HIGHLY recommend you do not RELY on this for income. make sure you have another job or steady income already coming in. this way you can use this as a hobby while you build it up slowly. before you know it, your operation might be bringing in the real money youre hoping for. (just remember to pay your taxes!! self-emplyment tax here is 32% lol. brutal....)
good luck buddy!
edit - i can totally see this costing 100k if i start looking at it as a SERIOUS business investment. commercial space, hired employees for help, taxes/regulations, state license to grow organically, FDA approval for selling to grocery stores. it all adds up. personally i would LOVE to get there one day and quit my day job. but im taking it one step at a time, as well all do i suppose
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23350366 - 06/16/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool thread!
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23350527 - 06/16/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm definitely not planning to rely on any income I might see from this. Just stepping up the hobby to that line where making a little extra cash might become possible.
5 grand for small bulk grows? on what?
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23350702 - 06/16/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: 5 grand for small bulk grows? on what?

you can build your own steam sterilizer and set up drapes in your cellar or garage for fruiting space rbalz, as long as you just build simple stuff yourself it doesnt have to cost much money at all.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: spacechildo]
#23350773 - 06/16/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: 5 grand for small bulk grows? on what?

you can build your own steam sterilizer and set up drapes in your cellar or garage for fruiting space rbalz, as long as you just build simple stuff yourself it doesnt have to cost much money at all.

Bit of a learning curve with all these foggers, electronics, etc, none of it seems too complicated I'm just brand new to it all.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23350787 - 06/16/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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there's a bunch of guys who documented their grow room/farm builds in the GMM forum, I'm sure you can take the best/what suits you best from all those guys builds and do some great stuff!
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: spacechildo]
#23350831 - 06/16/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah man, this is only my second real day of researching this kind of thing and I've been really impressed with the teks I've found. agars easy humidifier for instance.
My current dwelling doesn't have an easily converted fruiting room though, garage is very much occupied. Perhaps an outdoor greenhouse, got a nice big concrete slab just begging to be added to. Seems like there would be some problems associated with that though.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23350842 - 06/16/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the progression I had in mind. Is this pretty typical?
Slant > Petri > Grain > Slurry > Spawn Bags/Jars > Drum Pasteurize sub of choice > Spawn> Incubate > Fruit
Never done slurries before but I've got the proper blender/know-how.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23350880 - 06/16/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't like slurries because of bacteria. If you have any dormant in the interior of your grain it gets spread easily this way. Also it can get sticky and starchy.
Why not just g2g and skip making the slurry? That or go LC>Bags. Obviously be very careful this way but it would be faster than colonizing a jar, making a slurry, then colonizing a bag.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: maddchef]
#23350965 - 06/16/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I met with a grower in my state that puts out 500 lbs a week of shiitake and oysters. He had a building constructed for around 100k. He gets all of his spawn from a company, doesn't work with agar or G2G.. nothing. He buys large pallets of premium wood pellets locally and puts like wheat bran/chicken shit or something else in there before he pasteurizes for extra nutrients (I will be getting his exact forumula soon and pasteurizing on my stove). The spawn he gets is really good, as his flushes speak for themselves. He had two fruiting rooms and two incubation rooms. Another side room was for the flowhood where he would inoculate all of the bags. There was a sub/contam pile out in the field and thats about it.
I bought a mini-GH 4 tier to grow shiitakes, he told me he would give me a few shiitake bags to try my GH out for free (I may or may not have shared some of my harvest with him ). I started researching mushroom grow operations and found this guy just about an hour south of me so I sent a message through Facebook and I am one of a hand full of people he has given a tour to.
I love this hobby as much as you guys and would love to make some money selling legal mushrooms on the side. He sells to a local distributor (the 500 lbs a week) and to about a dozen chefs in the big city down the road. They also sell in a few local farmer markets and sometimes catering companies.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Perception7]
#23350992 - 06/16/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I oughta try to get a tour somewhere, I know of at least one mushroom farm near me.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23351004 - 06/16/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: I oughta try to get a tour somewhere, I know of at least one mushroom farm near me.
Yeah man it was fun, its just that dude and his wife. They take turns harvesting and inoculating, just out in the middle of the country, rolling hills - beautiful drive. Picking mushrooms everyday and burning nuggets, no boss or traffic... self employed cultivators.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Perception7]
#23351337 - 06/16/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perception7 said:
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rbalzer said: I oughta try to get a tour somewhere, I know of at least one mushroom farm near me.
Yeah man it was fun, its just that dude and his wife. They take turns harvesting and inoculating, just out in the middle of the country, rolling hills - beautiful drive. Picking mushrooms everyday and burning nuggets, no boss or traffic... self employed cultivators.
thats basically my dream...
and someone mentioned how or what i spent almost 5 grand on over the years. but 10 years is quite a long time and ive accumulated more than i know what do to with for the most part. maybe one day ill go through all my storage and all the things ive bought for this hobby and others and take a picture of everything combined...
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23352033 - 06/16/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm also setting up another grow, a trailer shiitake grow. Were looking at around $10-15k startup and should produce around 100 lbs a week, hopefully more.
If you have an outdoor location that's preferably shaded depending on your climate you can either build a shaded greenhouse or a insulated structure. Building a structure can be expensive, you might want to consider clearing out your garage and build a much simpler structure in there. When your outside you need to consider 80 mph winds, rain, bugs, rodents. Also you might run into permits for the structure. What goes on inside your garage is just for you to know.
Edited by Gr0wer (06/16/16 06:29 PM)
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23352076 - 06/16/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Normally you pay payroll tax and unimployment insurance as the employer And than as your own employee you pay income, Medicare, SS, etc... Plus sales tax then
unemployment insurance varies by state to state. some require you pay it, some don't. you are not federally required to pay unemployment insurance. however, if you do, you can fire yourself and collect unemployment. you also don't pay a payroll tax, you pay a self-employment tax. I guess this would only apply if you are the sole worker, thou.
I've been self employed twice in my life.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23352227 - 06/16/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Greenhouse might be nice someday. But a trailer you say? That reminds me of my rarely ever used RV. Shower might house a single log nicely
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23352615 - 06/16/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your a fool to be on the books when starting out small.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23352625 - 06/16/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Will you be doing a thread about this trailer op? 
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23352952 - 06/16/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once upon a time I knew a guy who bought a used shipping container for around 2k and used it up real nice
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: maddchef]
#23352953 - 06/16/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23353000 - 06/16/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Fees and regulations yearly. Permits to start.
What kind of permits are needed for starting a gourmet grow op? Regulations?
If you're only selling fresh mushrooms, you need no permit or anything else from the feds. -RR
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23353039 - 06/16/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Or you might want to build a double set of grow rooms. But spawn making is always the highest cost. If speed is what you after. You progressive should be spores to agar to tranfer twice cleanly. To li to five lc jars to 750 plates and 200 qts of grain jars To 100 grain bags and fruit the other to straw or others. Repeat with each month with making li with two agar dishes. Then grain to grain twice but no more. With a year you can make 500lbs a month. You will need about need about 5000 plates and big fridge
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: invitro]
#23353718 - 06/17/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Fees and regulations yearly. Permits to start.
What kind of permits are needed for starting a gourmet grow op? Regulations?
If you're only selling fresh mushrooms, you need no permit or anything else from the feds. -RR
Correct. I believe it may vary by state, but last I checked in my previous state, there was no permitting requirements. They basically don't want to discourage whole food producers from conducting business. As long as the product isn't processed in any way there is no permit required to sell whole foods. E.g. Roadside corn and fruit. Ever see permits hanging there? Nope.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23353803 - 06/17/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I'm also setting up another grow, a trailer shiitake grow. Were looking at around $10-15k startup and should produce around 100 lbs a week, hopefully more.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23353813 - 06/17/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I'm also setting up another grow, a trailer shiitake grow. Were looking at around $10-15k startup and should produce around 100 lbs a week, hopefully more.
If you have an outdoor location that's preferably shaded depending on your climate you can either build a shaded greenhouse or a insulated structure. Building a structure can be expensive, you might want to consider clearing out your garage and build a much simpler structure in there. When your outside you need to consider 80 mph winds, rain, bugs, rodents. Also you might run into permits for the structure. What goes on inside your garage is just for you to know.
ive done a trailer grow which worked out great. shouldnt cost you THAT much unless you need the trailer still though lol. i ended up selling the trailer to a friend who STILL uses it for his mushroom grows. he runs about 5-10 monotubs at a time and surprisingly does all his sterile work in it as well. (small space, no air movement, nice flowhood = good workspace.) also outdoor GH's i think are less practical for a lot of reasons, but mostly because the plastic lining will rip and need to be replaced. indoor is always better imo.
i am thinking about investing another 2-3grand on a ton of shelving for my 'half' a guest house. line it in plastic and use that for my shiitakes and oysters. 2-3grand might be under thinking it a bit, but at most im only putting 5 grand into it. 6-8 tier shelving is EXPENSIVE when you think about filling entire rooms from one side to the next lol. i have 3 solid rooms in my guest house completely un-used. about 500sqft. would be PERFECT for a solid GH setup. (and since its indoors you can buy cheap 2mil plastic lining instead of shielded 6-8mil outdoor GH plastic lining which costs an arm and leg!
my latest investment has been a new mister/humidifier, my 3rd PC(23qt presto), 20 new 66qt monotubs, 4 35 gallon totes for TiT, new dehydrator(soon), 2 40lb bags of WBS, 2 big bags of verm, 1 big bag of gypsum, bought an upgraded vacuum sealer as trade in for my old one, a ton of 2mil plastic lining, 2 6-tier stainless steel shelves(for diy GH), a bunch of trays for GH, 4x 12 packs of quart jars(these were pointless as i have boxes full of jars. im talking hundreds of jars. not all quart of course but 100's none the less. just cant find the damn things in storage), oh and 10x 12 packs of lids for the jars as i dont like reusing old ones. and they are super cheap...
and finally, i would still like to invest in a flowhood or agar materials. but ill leave that for AFTER this next project im about to take on.
anyway i forget what all that added up to, but it definitely wasnt cheap.. include future expansion and i can EASILY see myself pushing 100grand into this 'business', as it will become at that point rather than just a hobby.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23354552 - 06/17/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats one thing I dont understand, higher end impulse sealers. A seal is a seal no? Got a cheap value village one on a whim the other day, seems to work fine.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23354570 - 06/17/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm considering cutting a new SAB, one designed to stand up vertically so that you never hit the roof with bags or G2G. at least until I get working on a hood.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23355055 - 06/17/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I spent $280 on my impulse sealer. It's magnet hold so I can get the next bag ready while it seals. Also the 5mm seal is way better than the 2mm seal. The top end sealers are best because they have dual heating elements and foot pedal operation leaving your hands free to set up the bag.
And just to clarity, by trailer I mean 48' refrigerated semi trailer. And no we haven't purchased it yet. It will have a stainless steel 55 or 85 gal sterilizer(s), incubation room, walk in cooler, and large fruiting room. That price tag is covering all expenses for the first 3 months, which is where we will start to see some good cashflow.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23356224 - 06/17/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ahh thank you thank you.
How does one keep a culture going without senescence occurring when doing large scale grows? Maybe you just keep petri's going for a while, Transfer it to some new dishes occasionally to keep it fresh. And then you dip back into your slants eventually, but it just seems to me that eventually you run out of your original slants and have to get a new culture.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23356231 - 06/17/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: ahh thank you thank you.
How does one keep a culture going without senescence occurring when doing large scale grows? Maybe you just keep petri's going for a while, Transfer it to some new dishes occasionally to keep it fresh. And then you dip back into your slants eventually, but it just seems to me that eventually you run out of your original slants and have to get a new culture.

cultures aren't exactly hard to get ahold of thou. and senescence doesn't come on very quickly... I'm sure if you ever run in to it, the culture will have paid for itself many times over.
overhead is the cost of doing business.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23356261 - 06/17/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The way pros keep the culture fresh is always challenge your culture on plates. Like making cricket agar then back to pda. Senescence happens with ageing yes but it mainly happens when the myc cells learn to be use to the media they grow in and produce an enzymes that bluid toxics to themselves. I once knew a man that had the same culture for grow since 1974 thats what he always did anyway.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: tump]
#23356316 - 06/17/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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a valid point munch.
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Gr0wer
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23358936 - 06/18/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I make sterile water cultures and also have deep agar slants. I buy commercial spawn and i plan to refresh the stored culture every year or so by purchasing a bag of spawn from the supplier. Ill probably do it around the holidays or when im behind in spawn production, it helps me catch up on spawn and also refreshes my cultures.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23358948 - 06/18/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: I make sterile water cultures and also have deep agar slants. I buy commercial spawn and i plan to refresh the stored culture every year or so by purchasing a bag of spawn from the supplier. Ill probably do it around the holidays or when im behind in spawn production, it helps me catch up on spawn and also refreshes my cultures.
How much are you paying for commercial cultures? Aren't they expensive?
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23361171 - 06/19/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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$40-80 shipped for 10-20 lbs of spawn depending on vendor and strain.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23361302 - 06/19/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: $40-80 shipped for 10-20 lbs of spawn depending on vendor and strain.
And the spawn comes at 100%? That's actually not bad.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23362036 - 06/19/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea its ready to use. The issue im running into now is the spawn overheats in shipment and gets cooked. My last bag of 3782 was 105F upon arrival.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23362056 - 06/19/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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that's just inviting some nasty stuff to come out to play.
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Re: Why is it so expensive to start a gourmet mushroom op? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23397772 - 06/30/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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getting the old RV shower unit converted into a nice little grow chamber. As long as the exhaust being near the top and the humidity source near the bottom isn't a problem it should work great.
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