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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #23348329 - 06/15/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

shoot yourself? :shrug:

the only use I can see out of a gun is shooting yourself, even though owning one wouldve kill me long ago because of drugs and shit

one of the worst things humanity invented ever


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Brown Buffalo]
    #23348338 - 06/15/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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topdog82 said:
But I assumed that guns are not allowed in clubs? When I go clubbing and take a fuckton of sedatives, the last thing I think of taking with me is a gun?
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hostileuniverse said:
Guns save lives everyday, just the other day in Orlando, guns saved hundreds of lives...





Thats the issue. People on both sides of this issue will cherry pick countries' with low and high crime correlated with guns

I feel that the rates of gun related violence, homicide, mass shootings, and mental health are all UNIQUELY high in the US. Making us a special case. I feel that mental health needs to be confronted first. but IDK how the fuck our authoritative figures would do that




You probably shouldn't be on a "fuckton of" drugs and be thinking of guns. Much less handling them.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Brown Buffalo] * 2
    #23348340 - 06/15/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Religion has killed more people than guns have.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Brown Buffalo]
    #23348341 - 06/15/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Necessity is the mother of invention.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Brown Buffalo] * 1
    #23348355 - 06/15/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Brown Buffalo said:
shoot yourself? :shrug:

the only use I can see out of a gun is shooting yourself, even though owning one wouldve kill me long ago because of drugs and shit

one of the worst things humanity invented ever




We've invented alot of terrible things man. Before guns we were stabbing eachother with swords and pouring boiling oil on eachother and catapulting dead bodies into other peoples castles trying to give them the plague. Human beings have always had reason to fight and kill eachother. And I dunno about you but I'd rather be killed by getting shot in the head than to have someone hit me in the head with a club however many times to kill me. It's disturbingly easy to kill someone with a gun, but on the flip side it's often a more humane death than many of the alternatives...


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23348391 - 06/15/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Guns save lives everyday, just the other day in Orlando, guns saved hundreds of lives...






This is a meme for idiots. It's meant as a joke, not a real comparison... I'm amazed at the shit people will use to support their point of view.

Switzerland is in the top 10 of the world. Honduras is far down the bottom 100.
Switzerland has a mandatory military service
Switzerland has restricted ammunition sale laws
Honduras have uneducated people and drug cartels.

How someone can make this comparison and take it seriously is beyond me. Let's compare Zimbabwe and Sweden and find a number that seems to match each other


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
    #23348441 - 06/15/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I live in California and have a pretty liberal upbringing bit I am pro gun.

Why have a gun? Well personally for me if anyone tried to fuck with me I could instantly blow their fucking brains out. I can make a mess of them in a second.
That's why. And yes I am going to get a license to carry and try to get good at shooting it.

I'm getting a 9mm. Why would you get a rifle though?


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23348495 - 06/15/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

lets say that someone assaults me or threatens me and I shoot him in the leg or impulsively. How would that go in court?

Also; I assume if someone breaks into my house and I shot them? How would that work? I assume its all on him?


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
    #23348502 - 06/15/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Don't shoot to injure shoot to kill.  Dead criminals don't testify in court and you're doing society a favor by removing them for their next victims.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23348505 - 06/15/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Why would you get a rifle though?




Home defense
Hunting
Accuracy
Bears

Hand guns are hard to use effectively for people who aren't proficient with them.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23348506 - 06/15/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:

I'm getting a 9mm.




You gonna keep that in your purse?


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82] * 2
    #23348520 - 06/15/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You only point a gun at something you're willing and ready to kill. Don't ever plan on leg shots or pointing it for intimidation. That can as easily escalate a situation just as deescalate it. If you're not willing to shoot to kill when the situation blows up, bad things are gonna happen such as possibly getting your own gun turned on you.

As for what happens, the law doesn't say anything about killing (at least in my state) vs just injuring. There's a line that a criminal crosses that makes it legal for us to use lethal force. Whether it's ultimately lethal or not doesn't really matter as long as you don't shoot them after they're on the ground and no longer a threat.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23348531 - 06/15/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
You only point a gun at something you're willing and ready to kill. Don't ever plan on leg shots or pointing it for intimidation. That can as easily escalate a situation just as deescalate it. If you're not willing to shoot to kill when the situation blows up, bad things are gonna happen such as possibly getting your own gun turned on you.

As for what happens, the law doesn't say anything about killing (at least in my state) vs just injuring. There's a line that a criminal crosses that makes it legal for us to use lethal force. Whether it's ultimately lethal or not doesn't really matter as long as you don't shoot them after they're on the ground and no longer a threat.



fuck. I really need to take a course if I plan on getting a handgun


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #23348554 - 06/15/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone should definitely know the laws about guns, all of them. So you know when and what you can do and what is going to be your ass if things go sideways. Generally you'll be taught all that in a CHL class, but make sure it's a good class because when I was looking into it there were a few near me that were apparently teaching bogus information that can/will get someone charged. It's your ass if you're on the wrong side of the law so make sure you know what the law actually says, don't just listen to old dude in the gun store and take his word for it. "The class I took told me the wrong info" is most likely not going to fly.

Everyone should also definitely shoot pretty regularly. You need to know how your gun handles and identify any issues, like my .45 had a few types of ammo it really hated and would jam all the damn time. I had to find an ammo it liked and wouldn't jam on for my defense rounds. Using cheap ammo just for general practice is okay, but you definitely wanna shoot a few boxes of whatever you plan to keep for defense to make sure it cycles good and what not.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #23348564 - 06/15/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

There's a big difference between assaults and threats. Never take a gun out unless you ready to shoot and never shoot unless you intend to kill. That's what they're made for.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: my3rdeye] * 7
    #23348630 - 06/15/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
if you are not a drug dealer you aren't going to get home invaded.






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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23348642 - 06/15/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I just died laughing when it popped up on me.


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23348650 - 06/15/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Niffla said:
Quote:

my3rdeye said:
if you are not a drug dealer you aren't going to get home invaded.









I'm kinda hoping he gets proven wrong


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: PreparationH]
    #23348699 - 06/15/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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PreparationH said:
Just look at all the people who have shot and killed intruders in their homes, it happens.





liberals say that never happens


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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23348715 - 06/15/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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PreparationH said:
Just look at all the people who have shot and killed intruders in their homes, it happens.





liberals say that never happens




Apparently, only drug dealer's houses get broken into


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