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topdog82 said: Ya and my parents are reitring and settling in a nice area. Even thier small house in a tiny upscale neighboorhood has been having burglaries
Fuck it. I may get a gun. Pistol, submachine gun, or shotgun? Can't decide. The hobby aspect is always nice but I don't care too much for that. I would rather stick to personal protection purposes
Also; I am not sure how I would distinguish a family member from a robber. maybe I should get a stun gun or a sword
You should have a small but strong led flash light with whatever gun you plan on using for home defense. Part of being a gun owner and using your weapon is knowing what lies beyond your target.
If you plan to carry, get a pistol. If you just want to protect your home shotgun and rifles are best, IMO.
QFT. Also when using the shotgun, use buck shot. You don't want to be spraying pellets all over your house
I think I have #3 or #4 buck in my shotgun, so a smaller amount of larger pellets will be expelled out. Honestly not sure though I can never remember.
In my pistol I keep Federal Tactical 124gr +P, it is great self defense ammo
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Sanguin3]
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topdog82 said: Ya and my parents are reitring and settling in a nice area. Even thier small house in a tiny upscale neighboorhood has been having burglaries
Fuck it. I may get a gun. Pistol, submachine gun, or shotgun? Can't decide. The hobby aspect is always nice but I don't care too much for that. I would rather stick to personal protection purposes
Also; I am not sure how I would distinguish a family member from a robber. maybe I should get a stun gun or a sword
You should have a small but strong led flash light with whatever gun you plan on using for home defense. Part of being a gun owner and using your weapon is knowing what lies beyond your target.
This. If you don't know what you're shooting at and beyond, you don't shoot. If you can't trust yourself to make that quick decision, don't carry a gun around. .
This is also one reason I purchased a shot gun, I won't have to worry about over penetration and harming a family member.
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PreparationH said: Just look at all the people who have shot and killed intruders in their homes, it happens.
Look at all the people who shot a family member because they believe that shit. You are never going to shoot an intruder but you have a good chance of that gun causing tragedy. Stop with the hero fantasy nonsense, if you are not a drug dealer you aren't going to get home invaded.
 About 5 years ago when i lived with my dad, in a nice neighborhood, there was a string of robberies.. My neighbors house was invaded in the middle of the night and they shot the intruders dead. Then 2 months later a robbery on the next street over one of the intruders were shot.
My boyfriend in highschool, his home was invaded, he got in a gun fight with the 3 intruders. He killed two and was shot by the remaining one but lucky survived.
So there are 3 examples that i can think off the top of my head. None of these people sold drugs. They lived in nice homes and intruders came in their occupied house in the middle if the night
Damn! Thats fucked up.
On one hand, guns can help protect you if u need them.
But on the other hand, accidental shootings do happen and what if the robber finds your gun or soemthing?
Im on the fense about the whole thing, but i do think a shoot-out in a public place would be pretty intense and i might wanna be a hero
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If you are not home and a robber finds your gun, there is nothing you can do except report it stolen.
If thats a problem for people then what if a robber finds your knife and stabs a neighbor? Finds your spare car keys to a secondary vehicle, drinks your alcohol then drives away and kills someone?
So many what if's, there is only so much you can do about pieces of shit trying to harm/kill you and/or steal your belongings.
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lol why the fuck would I care about shotgun pellets all over the place? I am tryna save lives here. A littl damage to my house is worth my saftey
And ya I will think about it. Maybe I will get a stun gun instead. Have a flashlight attached to my gun
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i wanna get one of those fingerprint-activated guns. So i can only shoot it.
That would be badass and make me feel a lot safer.
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My gun has saved my life on more than one occasion.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82] 1
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I think the best gun you can own for self defense is a 9mm parabellum or .45 ACP compact pistol with a capacity of at least 8 rounds.
Something like the Springfield XD Sub-Compact 9mm

You're an American so a concealable high capacity handgun is a good thing to have. When every second counts, a cop is only 20 minutes away.
Having a handgun would make me feel safer. I would not carry it but for home defense its.. persuasive.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
#23347945 - 06/15/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: lol why the fuck would I care about shotgun pellets all over the place? I am tryna save lives here. A littl damage to my house is worth my saftey
And ya I will think about it. Maybe I will get a stun gun instead. Have a flashlight attached to my gun
Dont forget the pepper gernades! https://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore.com/self-defense-pepper-spray-throwing-grenades-sub=89
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: Asante] 1
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I'd rather carry a full sized weapon. I don't like the compacts, even with the pinky extension. It feels like it's trying to wrench itself out of my hand when I shoot it. For one shot that's fine but I tried some fast shooting with one and my accuracy was abysmal even at 25 feet. I think I would need a LOT of practice before I could be comfortable with relying on one for self defense. In comparison it only took me a few hundred rounds to start to get really comfortable and be able to accurately aim with full sized pistols.
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tbh most organized crime would be wiped off the planet in a few days with legal drugs and prostitution. But thats a whole nother story
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so you carry a full size pistol on you?
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
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No I don't carry right now. I had planned to get my CHL but never got around to it and we're too broke to be worrying about that right now. But yeah I would probably carry something bigger than the usual compacts people suggest. I think I've seen a few 1911's that aren't quite compacts but aren't "full sized" either. Maybe one of those.
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I am just tryng to picture a day where I bring a pistol while I get mexican with my girlfriend etc.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
#23348004 - 06/15/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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get "Mexican" with a girlfriend?
What the hell does that mean?
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Idk what that means either.
I conceal a Gen 4 Glock 19 with Trijicon Night sights and its the shit. I absolutely love it.
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
#23348022 - 06/15/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: lol why the fuck would I care about shotgun pellets all over the place? I am tryna save lives here. A littl damage to my house is worth my saftey
And ya I will think about it. Maybe I will get a stun gun instead. Have a flashlight attached to my gun
Bcus u are potentially going to spray pellets into anyone who is standing near the intruder like family Lol. Didn't seem like you had much knowledge of guns so I was informing you to use buckshot if you got a shotgun
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hahah I meant like its a casual weekday night and I want to go out and eat mexican food with a female who is my girlfriend. I should have been more clear
Its just my brother was mugged on the way back from chinese with his buddies on a tuesday night and it makes me think how I would intergrate guns into my day to day life. I am not sure if I would bring a tiny pistol to a club, or I would bring a gun to get food casually
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topdog82 said: lol why the fuck would I care about shotgun pellets all over the place? I am tryna save lives here. A littl damage to my house is worth my saftey
And ya I will think about it. Maybe I will get a stun gun instead. Have a flashlight attached to my gun
Bcus u are potentially going to spray pellets into anyone who is standing near the intruder like family Lol. Didn't seem like you had much knowledge of guns so I was informing you to use buckshot if you got a shotgun
ahhh
And no I don't. if I get a gun, I will prolly join a club or read a book on proper maintenance/all this info. I have only done shooting and basic handling. I know little to none
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
#23348049 - 06/15/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My ex (the one that got shot in the home invasion) got shot 3 times with a 12g shotgun bird shot. Once in the back twice in the front. Pellets sprayed all throughout his body. Thank god none hit his spine. He had them go through his dick and BALLS. In fact, they were unable to remove all of the pellets and he has two in the base of his dick still. Bunch in his thighs. Very fucked up. He has a shit bag for 8 months. Like i said, he killed 2 of the intruders, but the one that shot him got away.. He eventually was found and is serving a life sentence for thr crime agianst my ex and some other robberies he was connected to.
My ex was only 18 at the time. His mom and sister were in the house so thankfully he was able to protect the household. But he has horrible PTSD from it now. Its very sad
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Re: Why have a gun? [Re: topdog82]
#23348054 - 06/15/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I try to carry almost anywhere I go. When I go out to eat, when I grocery shop, when I get gas, when I go to the mall.
Its like a condom, you may not use it but you'll be sure glad you take it everywhere when/if the time were to come.
I took a long safety course to get my concealed permit and i'll tell you it was the best class I've ever taken. I learned A LOT. Most importantly, I learned my rights as a gun owner and the laws that I need to follow.
The class also went over different scenarios about when you might need to gun and as to whether or not that scenario granted lethal force. ( such as being mugged, like OP mentioned ).
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