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PaulMaster
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Ordering spores
#23346011 - 06/15/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello fellow beings,
I'm starting my first grow. I'm ordering a 4 pack of spores by the end of the day today. I've read, many times, that cubes are cubes - same yields, potency, etc. So is there any reason NOT to get the same "strain" in all 4 syringes?
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PE is super potent, but it might be better going with an easier 'strain'to begin with. B+, GT are both easy but essentially yeah a cube is a cube unless its PE :P
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PaulMaster
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: Wormi]
#23346047 - 06/15/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whats different about PE?
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It's harder to work with in general and acts a lot differently. Goes better in tubs and trays. B+ is pretty generic, treasure coast nothing special seen here, but I still think golden teacher to be the prettiest. Especially on cakes they always look cool.
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: Adden]
#23346130 - 06/15/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The consensus from what I've read seems to be that PE is the only cube that is appreciably different from the rest. More potent, grows a bit differently, and I've heard getting spores from them is rather difficult.
That being said, why not get four different syringes and test those claims yourself? Seems like a fun project to me, and you'd be more likely to find a 'favorite' strain that you enjoy cultivating the most. Or maybe they'll all be carbon copies of each other, there's only one way to know for sure.
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: BirdLaw]
#23346173 - 06/15/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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PE is a mutant p.cubensis and are better left isolated on agar and tested for fruiting abilities prior to mass propagation.
Pink buffalo are super quick at colonizing from Ms. .. you wouldn't be disappointed with their performance...probably the quickest of the Thai p.cube's. ... and burma are worth a mention....they're pretty quick and rhizmphoric from Ms
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PaulMaster
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Awesome, thanks guys.
Is PE something a first time grower ought to avoid? Is the process any different?
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PaulMaster said: Awesome, thanks guys.
Is PE something a first time grower ought to avoid? Is the process any different?
You might want to get a few different varieties of cubes because they look different. Thats the main difference between the vendor varieties of cubes, the aesthetics.
PE is very potent but it is very slow to fruit... sometimes taking a month after being put into fruiting conditions. In a tub or a tray it usually puts up blobs instead of mushrooms on the first flush, most people put a casing layer on PE because it helps cut back on that.
PE doesnt do all that well on PF cakes. You can grow it, its not impossible, its just tempermental on cakes and slow. This is why new growers usually pick a different type of cube.
B+ is a very good cube to start with IMO, and the most potent mushrooms I have ever grown turned out to be B+
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: mushpunx]
#23346297 - 06/15/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've heard B+'s name dropped far more than any other. Maybe I'll skip the PE's this time around.
Is there any reason for or against keeping similar "strains" together or separate per grow? Like, multiple "strains" in a single SGFC?
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: mushpunx]
#23346302 - 06/15/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you want to show off to your freinds and your doing cakes i say do south American strain. If your doing monotub or trays any good choices. But you really want job easy done also get one of tuffle stains.
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mushpunx
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PaulMaster said: I've heard B+'s name dropped far more than any other. Maybe I'll skip the PE's this time around.
Is there any reason for or against keeping similar "strains" together or separate per grow? Like, multiple "strains" in a single SGFC?
No. All cubes have the same growing parameters.
Youre doing cakes?
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: mushpunx]
#23346347 - 06/15/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushpunx said:
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PaulMaster said: I've heard B+'s name dropped far more than any other. Maybe I'll skip the PE's this time around.
Is there any reason for or against keeping similar "strains" together or separate per grow? Like, multiple "strains" in a single SGFC?
No. All cubes have the same growing parameters.
Youre doing cakes?
Yes cakes. PF Tek cakes, SGFC. I was asking about multiple "strains" - ok, whats the correct term here? I'm gonna stop using these quotation marks whether I get the right word or not! - because I have 12 jars and each syringe looks like it supports 10 jars. I may stick with 10 for this, but I may just grab another 8 jars and go with 20 total cakes. If that becomes the case, messing around with 2 "strains" (thats the last time!) at the same time may very well pique my curiosity beyond my ability to resist...
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The more cakes the merrier, and it increases your chance of success. A SGFC will work better with more cakes in it too IME.
Strain is okay to use as long as you understand it. Its what the vendors use for lack of a better term. I prefer the term "variety" as do a lot of people, because that's what they are, different varieties of the same species.
When you grow from spores, there are hundreds of strains present.To get a pure strain you have to work with the culture on agar pitre dishes to isolate a single strain. Of course you have store this culture and grow from this live culture if you want to grow that strain.
If you take a spore print from your isolated strain and grow from that it will reset itself , there will be many many strains present again
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: mushpunx]
#23346521 - 06/15/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amazonian , my vendor has them listed like this:
Psilocybe cubensis : PES Amazonian Spore Syringe Microscopy Kit
Very forgiving strain for newbs, fast colonizing, beautiful, large, and potent fruits - what more do you want?
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: tump]
#23346746 - 06/15/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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tump said: If you want to show off to your freinds and your doing cakes i say do south American strain. If your doing monotub or trays any good choices. But you really want job easy done also get one of tuffle stains.
If you wanna break Rule 1 and go to jail... then yes, show off to all your friends.
Get 4 different varieties, including one of PE or APE, and then start with agar. By the time the others are done you'll be ready to mess with the PE.
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Re: Ordering spores [Re: Inocuole]
#23346863 - 06/15/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I definitely wont be showing them off to anyone lol. I'm looking for simple, effective, and reliable to learn and gain some experience (and take a ride to the other side of the universe). If I get into more advanced techniques and processes it'll be later on.
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