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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: berrymybody]
    #23379931 - 06/25/16 07:32 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Don't you just hate it when you fall off a horse, get severe brain damage and then have Jimmy Page steal your riff? Poor bastard.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23380584 - 06/25/16 11:57 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

literal insult to injury


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox] * 1
    #23380621 - 06/25/16 12:08 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

"Inspired by" is about a big a stretch as you can make IMO.
The two songs are completely and utterly different..
So the opening hook has a similar chord progression?
Big fucking deal?
Taurus is a noodling go nowhere chord jam
Stairway is a fucking epic

Look at popular music today. Jesus fuck. Many songs are exact carbon copy rip offs of others.
This is not even in the same ballpark



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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Shroomism]
    #23380629 - 06/25/16 12:09 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

How about Dazed and Confused?


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23380654 - 06/25/16 12:16 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Again.. similar intro.. but not the same song at all. Most music is inspired by others.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Shroomism]
    #23380662 - 06/25/16 12:18 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Maybe they just ate the same acid, and part of the trip was hearing that tune. That's waht I'm going with.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23380668 - 06/25/16 12:20 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Whole lotta love... that might be their worst offense..


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Shroomism]
    #23380675 - 06/25/16 12:22 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Woody guthrie is to blame for all of this you know.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Shroomism]
    #23380677 - 06/25/16 12:22 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Leadbelly would have killed all of them if he was alive when they stole his song.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23380684 - 06/25/16 12:24 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Oh man that would have been badass! Leadbelly was the man! We need more murder in music.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23380693 - 06/25/16 12:25 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Well, Blues songs are passed around and covered so much. I mean, a lot of shit Leadbelly recorded was stuff he didn't write. Stuff that has been passed down through the community. That's how folk music works, and that's all the Blues is, so I really doubt he would


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox] * 1
    #23380700 - 06/25/16 12:27 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

That's why they waited until he was dead.
But ya man I dunno if you know this but that's how music evolves.
Bands cover other bands, they write similar music in their own style, add their own twists.
All genres of music is just an evolution of something else.

Rock came from blues and folk evolved into metal and then technical melodic motherfucking death metal.
Beyond Creation is ripping off Led Zeppelin?

But yeah man that's like one of the best things about music, it's stupid as fuck when people think they can own or "patent" a fucking chord progression.

Yeah it's one thing if someone just completely rips you off exactly and steals your shit, it's another entirely when they are inspired by and go on to create something completely different.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23380702 - 06/25/16 12:28 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

I dunno man. He had a temper.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Shroomism]
    #23380706 - 06/25/16 12:29 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Hell, the entire basis of the "British Invasion" was Brits covering the Blues.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: j3danentz]
    #23380710 - 06/25/16 12:30 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

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I dunno man. He had a temper.




I realize, but that's something that's done. Hell, half of everything he recorded were "covers"


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23380711 - 06/25/16 12:30 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

All musicians are inspired by other musicians, that's just how it is.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23380712 - 06/25/16 12:30 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Modern music is just a fusion of african tribal beats with classical influences. Is beethoven gonna start suing people? NOPE, public domain!


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23380714 - 06/25/16 12:31 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

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I dunno man. He had a temper.




I realize, but that's something that's done. Hell, half of everything he recorded were "covers"




Is it possible to cover yourself?


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23380718 - 06/25/16 12:31 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Looks like it is indeed an old folk song. I thought he wrote it. He'd still have killed them, though. Nothing wrong with playing old folk and blues songs, but pretending you wrote them is pretty shitty. Stealing songs from currently living people you actually know and not giving them credit or money is far worse. Led Zeppelin have done both extensively.

I'll drop this, anyway. People are very defensive about this band for some reason. If someone can genuinely hear the original Dazed and Confused and think the Led Zeppelin version isn't stolen from it, then nothing is going to change their mind.

You can be a thieving wanker and still make good music. Robert Johnson commandeered Skip James songs without giving credit and it doesn't mean he's a bad musician, it just means he was a prick.


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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Shroomism]
    #23380721 - 06/25/16 12:33 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

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That's why they waited until he was dead.
But ya man I dunno if you know this but that's how music evolves.
Bands cover other bands, they write similar music in their own style, add their own twists.
All genres of music is just an evolution of something else.

Rock came from blues and folk evolved into metal and then technical melodic motherfucking death metal.
Beyond Creation is ripping off Led Zeppelin?

But yeah man that's like one of the best things about music, it's stupid as fuck when people think they can own or "patent" a fucking chord progression.

Yeah it's one thing if someone just completely rips you off exactly and steals your shit, it's another entirely when they are inspired by and go on to create something completely different.




Dazed and Confused, yes?

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