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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23348870 - 06/15/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok I just listened to it again and now I hear it at about 43 seconds in but..it literally only sounds similar to Stairway for like 2 to 3 seconds and then it just sounds way different.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23349063 - 06/15/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The descending bass line over that high A minor is pretty common and Davy Graham's version of "Cry Me a River" does it almost identically, but Taurus and Stairway to Heaven have an incredibly similar backing track. The wind on Stairway to Heaven is incredibly similar to the strings on Taurus.
The lawsuit is a big bogus since the guy who wrote the song apparently never cared enough to do anything while he was alive.
Anyway, it's definitely not their worst plagiarism. Dazed and Confused is fucking unforgivable.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
#23349089 - 06/15/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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For anyone who cares, here is "White Summer" and a song that it clearly wasn't stolen from at all.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
#23376263 - 06/24/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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nothing wrong with using music written by another, just don't say you wrote it. the lyrics to stairway are obviously original. the music they were paired with was not
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: trscstghst]
#23377626 - 06/24/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Update: led Zeppelin just won their case. A jury decided after 15 min of deliberating that stairway to heaven did not copy the spirit song.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Masked]
#23377667 - 06/24/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Although I sided with Zeppelin before the decision was made, its kinda fucked that the jury were not allowed to hear the spirit song.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Masked]
#23377684 - 06/24/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Masked said: Update: led Zeppelin just won their case. A jury decided after 15 min of deliberating that stairway to heaven did not copy the spirit song.
Of course they are going to win. It was over 40 years ago and they are rock gods. I hope that it at least serves the purpose of letting more people know that this was a very common practice with a large amount of their music.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Deadmaker]
#23377697 - 06/24/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I saw Jimmy Page last night at the Sunset Marquis, he doesn't seem too bothered by anything.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: JohnnieYen]
#23377715 - 06/24/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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They had a professional musician play both arrangements I heard?
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: Masked]
#23377746 - 06/24/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Masked said: They had a professional musician play both arrangements I heard?
Why would they do that instead of just playing the songs back to back?
Seems like a lot more room for error and or differences between the two if you have someone play them live, professional or no.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: musiclover420]
#23377874 - 06/24/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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this case is a headache. even if a small portion was borrowed, the vast majority of the song is not only original but epic. i mean scales and harmonies are borrowed, why not a riff or two? it does strike me as peculiar that they opened for this band in between the production of the Spirit song and the creation of Stairway.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: bass head]
#23377884 - 06/24/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd be surprised if everything they ever recorded wasn't stolen
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#23377915 - 06/24/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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To bad the bad guys won.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: deucedbi9]
#23377974 - 06/24/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stairway was taken from a Terry Reid song. They just mixed it up a bit. Terry didn't say anything because music is universal.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#23378108 - 06/24/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: I'd be surprised if everything they ever recorded wasn't stolen
Yea but listen to the original version of When the Levee Breaks and then Led Zeppelins "version". They really did make it all their own and way better.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23378125 - 06/24/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say better by any means, but I'm a Blues fan. They did make it their own, though
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] 1
#23379534 - 06/25/16 03:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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on their original albums they give no credit to anyone for any song. they say they wrote it all. after multiple lawsuits, their newer remastered albums credit the original artists for writing many of the songs.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: trscstghst]
#23379542 - 06/25/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like they've been sued over this kind of thing shit loads of times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_plagiarism
I think Jake Holmes never came after them for some reason. Maybe he's just a really nice guy.
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox] 1
#23379598 - 06/25/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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"thing shit"
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Re: Led Zeppelin denies stealing opening chords of Stairway to Heaven [Re: EllisDSox]
#23379914 - 06/25/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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it would've been cool if they at least admitted they were heavily inspired by the spirit song. it definitely seems to be the case. typical david & goliath scenario
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