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Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes.
    #23345368 - 06/14/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Alright guys, I've suffered considerably from an unintentional 25i-nbome use (took 2 hits ended up in the hosptial, thought it was lsd).

My brain's felt burned out, fried, and over all I've had cognitive issues (in the moment thinking, ability to type, speak, anxiety issues) that are very noticeable. Over the month it has gotten better but I can't afford to be patient and using psychedelics to improve myself to me is a smarter and quicker way to help my situation.

I've had experience using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes in the past and they've helped me in ways I can't even begin to explain without writing paragraphs upon paragraphs. I have great faith and personal knowledge that it can be potentially beneficial for my situation.

LSD - Therapeutic purposes, giving me easier ways to approach a situation from different perspectives (to combat the issues of my dumbed down mind)
Psilocybin - Neurogenesis/turning off my anxiety (to combat the issue of my dumbed down mind as well as anxiety)
Salvia 5x low cautious dosages - Powerful therapeutic effects (to get me so high that I tap into whatever the hell it is that will make me spiritually and mentally sound)

For harm reduction purposes, considering what 25i-nbome does to the brain, what harm can come from using LSD/psilocybin/salvia a month and half after intial ingestion of 25i-nbome? I'm worried about potential cross interference, I had seizures from the 25i-nbome and I know that it's a full 5ht2a agonist, and that lsd and psilocybin are partial agonists. But considering I'll take it a month and a half after ingestion, do I have to worry about that?

Thanks, peace and love and I appreciate it.

tl;dr
It's been a month and a half since I've used 25i-nbome and I've suffered from it considerably on a cognitive level, I want to use lsd/psilocybin/salvia to improve my mental and cognitive skills (having had personal experience improving them before through these means) and am wondering on a chemical/physiological cerebral level if there's anything I need to worry about.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: winchester77] * 6
    #23345392 - 06/14/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I feel like you should just all together avoid psychedelics (and pot and other shit) if your brain is still wrecked from the 25i.  Seems like there's a risk that you'd just be doubling down.  If it's as bad as you say it is, see what a doctor recommends.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: Burke Dennings] * 3
    #23345405 - 06/14/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

OP you should just stay away from psychedelics until you return to baseline, I can't imagine doing lsd/salvia/psilocybin would be beneficial to your health right now.

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I feel like you should just all together avoid psychedelics (and pot and other shit) if your brain is still wrecked from the 25i.  Seems like there's a risk that you'd just be doubling down.  If it's as bad as you say it is, see what a doctor recommends.




No doubt the doctor will recommend some 100x salvia.



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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: winchester77]
    #23345489 - 06/14/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Stop doing drugs.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: my3rdeye]
    #23345537 - 06/15/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

God bless your punctuation if you have a fried brain though. Can't be that bad.  :shrug:


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: winchester77]
    #23345886 - 06/15/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This is your second thread on the matter. Previous:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23294688



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my3rdeye said:
Stop doing drugs.




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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: falsereality]
    #23347753 - 06/15/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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falsereality said:
OP you should just stay away from psychedelics until you return to baseline, I can't imagine doing lsd/salvia/psilocybin would be beneficial to your health right now.

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Burke Dennings said:
I feel like you should just all together avoid psychedelics (and pot and other shit) if your brain is still wrecked from the 25i.  Seems like there's a risk that you'd just be doubling down.  If it's as bad as you say it is, see what a doctor recommends.




No doubt the doctor will recommend some 100x salvia.







No.

Many close-friend anecdotal reports say the sooner you do low-dose, tapering up to high-dose traditional psychedelics, the better off and more properly connected your brain will be after the damage from the fake psychedelic.

Kind of like the sooner a child is introduced to cannabis use daily, the more connected their brain will be for the rest of their lives. Proven.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: winchester77]
    #23348365 - 06/15/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Big pharma has got you now.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
    #23348383 - 06/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Aside from "close-friend anecdotal" stories, do you have anything credible to back up what you're saying?  Because you could be giving dangerous medical advice based on nothing.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: ServantOfBaphomet] * 1
    #23348393 - 06/15/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Lol proven as in proven by close friend anecdotal reports.

What is actually proven by science is that our brains are still changing and growing up until we are 25 and messing with mind altering drugs during that period can be damaging.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: winchester77]
    #23348597 - 06/15/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Same EXACT thing happened to my buddy in 2014.

He got burned out from taking 25i. He only took it once or twice but it had a long term negative effect on his mental well being and was essentially...fried.

Before moving back to Florida he used MDMA and psilocybin mushrooms to cure what he had which was essentially a mix between derealization, depersonalization and HPPD.

I recommended meditation to him but it was the MDMA and mushrooms (mostly mushrooms) that "fixed" him.
Mushrooms seem to be a very effective nootropic if used right and kind of rejuvenate you and rewire things in the brain.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23348731 - 06/15/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I know but im tired of suffering. I battled something even crazier before the 25i and then this happened and its a "desperate times desperate measures" type situation. I will microdose and stop if theres any negative effects. Doctors would advise against it, but i am getting my blood work done to make sure at least my bodys fine going into the trip. Thank you


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: my3rdeye]
    #23348741 - 06/15/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Not until Im healed. I cant be broken anymore and I have no time. This is eithrr genius or detrimemtal. I understand that.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: Bozko]
    #23348766 - 06/15/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Haha thanks, i always have to explain this but my posts are never a first draft. I write down everything then edit a fair amount. Particularly moving sentences from one part to another because initially it doesnt make sense, and grammatical errors are the worst, as well as the ability recall information that was once standard. Like spelling the word separate as seperate, anyway i love you be well.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: 404]
    #23348774 - 06/15/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hey again 404. Yeah i know but the nature of this postbis different im not trying to clutter the forums, this threads more about the hallucinogens i mentioned and how theyd possibly aide or harm me. And i cant stop, i thought i could be patient but i cant be broken anymore. Ive had enough.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
    #23348802 - 06/15/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Holy shit really?? Like friends in your real life swear that its benefited them? Did they use shrooms or acid first to counteract the bad after effects of the shitty fake psychedelic? And was it 25inbome in particular that they suffered from initially? Please man if you could respond and tell me more about their situations and what they did to get better I'd really appreciate it. Like you said sounds like the exact situation and thought process im having right now.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: shadyy]
    #23348807 - 06/15/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Nah. Id go cold turkey before big pharma


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
    #23348834 - 06/15/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ServantOfBaphomet said:


Kind of like the sooner a child is introduced to cannabis use daily, the more connected their brain will be for the rest of their lives. Proven.





:smokinacandycane:  :nicetry:

not so sure about this one, nothing against cannabis, i love it and use it regularly but agreed with burke, i don't think anyone should be following this advice


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23348853 - 06/15/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hey man anecdotal is good enough for me. There are no studies done on this type of subject matter so i understandthat information is scarce. I take everything everyone says with a grain of salt and also do my best to look at everything objectively and consider all the information before acting. But if he personally has seen people get better, then i understand that in this situation, anecdotal evidence is the best i can hope for. And I take full responsibility on what happens to me, thats on me.


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Re: Dangers of a post 25i-nbome recovering mind using LSD/psilocybin/salvia for therapeutic purposes. [Re: winchester77] * 2
    #23348877 - 06/15/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Do not follow that advice, even if you feel anecdotal is enough.  The user that supplied you with that info is a known troll and liar; I can guarantee he is not posting in your best interest or even anything truthful.  If he hadn't opted out of ratings, that would be readily apparent to you.  As it is, you should just trust me when I tell you that he is a malicious troll.


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