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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: koods]
    #23346305 - 06/15/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/experts-trumps-muslim-entry-ban-idea-ridiculous-unconsitutional/2015/12/07/d44a970a-9d47-11e5-bce4-708fe33e3288_story.html

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Donald Trump’s proposal to bar all Muslims from entering the United States violates U.S. and international law and would never be allowed by the courts, legal scholars said late Monday.

“Oh, for the love of God,” said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University. “This would not only violate international law, but do so by embracing open discrimination against one religion. It would make the United States a virtual pariah among nations.’’








and what's going to happen if the US violates that international law, maybe you
can show us in trumps own words where he would be doing something you article
claims to be unconstitutional


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23346307 - 06/15/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Pris - does anyone in the Republican Party agree with Trump? From what I've read his ideas are falling flat in Congress, you know anything more?


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Citizen X]
    #23346315 - 06/15/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Providing material support is going to Syria, or helping/funding another person to travel.


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: koods]
    #23346332 - 06/15/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe instead of banning/deporting all Muslims, we could just ban/deport the ones who support terrorism


The FBI found this guy LOOOOOONG before he did anything, what stopped them from acting on that information???


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23346345 - 06/15/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The law :shrug:


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Citizen X]
    #23346361 - 06/15/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Pris - does anyone in the Republican Party agree with Trump? From what I've read his ideas are falling flat in Congress, you know anything more?




Paul Ryan has been given the job of apologizing for the popular comments that Trump had made the previous day, something tells me he will be doing that for the next 5 years.


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Citizen X]
    #23346372 - 06/15/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The law :shrug:




People keep demanding congress DO something, maybe we should :shrug:


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: koods]
    #23346379 - 06/15/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/experts-trumps-muslim-entry-ban-idea-ridiculous-unconsitutional/2015/12/07/d44a970a-9d47-11e5-bce4-708fe33e3288_story.html

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Donald Trump’s proposal to bar all Muslims from entering the United States violates U.S. and international law and would never be allowed by the courts, legal scholars said late Monday.

“Oh, for the love of God,” said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University. “This would not only violate international law, but do so by embracing open discrimination against one religion. It would make the United States a virtual pariah among nations.’’







Yeah, because the US never used discriminatory immigration practices in the past. :facepalm:


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23346389 - 06/15/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The law :shrug:




People keep demanding congress DO something, maybe we should :shrug:




They had a moment of silence..


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23346397 - 06/15/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe instead of banning/deporting all Muslims, we could just ban/deport the ones who support terrorism


The FBI found this guy LOOOOOONG before he did anything, what stopped them from acting on that information???




Because the FBI was in fear of practicing Islamophobia.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263180/fbi-ended-investigation-orlando-jihadist-blamed-daniel-greenfield

This country is doomed when the FBI is nothing more than a PC group of investigators.


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23346472 - 06/15/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe instead of banning/deporting all Muslims, we could just ban/deport the ones who support terrorism


The FBI found this guy LOOOOOONG before he did anything, what stopped them from acting on that information???




Thats the thing, how can u tell an extremist muslim from a non-extremist? you really cant. They all look the same.

Thats how these terrorist keep doing this, by behaving well, staying under the radar, blending in, then when their time comes, they strike.

Much like the school shootings like Columbine and Viginia Tech, to name a few.


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23346584 - 06/15/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Banning muslims would make the ones that already live in the us even more susceptible to manipulation by ISIS so it will lead to more terror attacks.

It will also severly harm the diplomatic relations to muslim countrys and i think that could end up weakening the US.


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Citizen X]
    #23346597 - 06/15/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Pris - does anyone in the Republican Party agree with Trump? From what I've read his ideas are falling flat in Congress, you know anything more?





I dont know, I'm not a republican and I havent asked anyone in the republican part


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: koods]
    #23346601 - 06/15/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Providing material support is going to Syria, or helping/funding another person to travel.





it's illegal to aid terrorists and seeing as how we are in a 'war on terror', it's aiding the enemy


why are you defending islamic terrorists?


now what will happen when the US violates this 'international law'


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23346604 - 06/15/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You're not Republician?

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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: qman]
    #23346617 - 06/15/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Maybe instead of banning/deporting all Muslims, we could just ban/deport the ones who support terrorism


The FBI found this guy LOOOOOONG before he did anything, what stopped them from acting on that information???




Thats the thing, how can u tell an extremist muslim from a non-extremist? you really cant. They all look the same.

Thats how these terrorist keep doing this, by behaving well, staying under the radar, blending in, then when their time comes, they strike.

Much like the school shootings like Columbine and Viginia Tech, to name a few.




How did the FBI know to interview this guy THREE times? They must have had supporting evidence to suspect him of terrorist ties and/or sympathies. Seems to me a guy who tells his coworkers he supports ISIS and want to wage jihad doesn't "look" like other Muslims:shrug:

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Banning muslims would make the ones that already live in the us even more susceptible to manipulation by ISIS so it will lead to more terror attacks.

It will also severly harm the diplomatic relations to muslim countrys and i think that could end up weakening the US.




Only if they support jihad already, any Muslim without sympathies to terror should be happy that their loved ones wouldn't be blown up or gunned down by terrorists,

As for diplomatic relations, what we are doing isn't working, they've hated us long before sept 11, so fuck them, secure our border and prepare for war, or just continue to be picked off one by one or 50 by 50, the choice is ultimately up to us

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Maybe instead of banning/deporting all Muslims, we could just ban/deport the ones who support terrorism


The FBI found this guy LOOOOOONG before he did anything, what stopped them from acting on that information???




Because the FBI was in fear of practicing Islamophobia.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263180/fbi-ended-investigation-orlando-jihadist-blamed-daniel-greenfield

This country is doomed when the FBI is nothing more than a PC group of investigators.




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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23346622 - 06/15/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You're not Republician?






maybe you havent noticed but half the republicans in office are democrats, some even came from the democrat party


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23346629 - 06/15/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Do we let in muslims who have denounced their faiths?

Or middle eastern people whp are christian?

What stops these people from just lying when trying to come into the us?

Some of them live in places that are exteremely poor and they dont have facebook posts proclaiming their allegiance to isis 

How do we think this screening is going to be so full proof?

Also real quick on guns

Their are guns that are legal in stores that are illegal in the street they are untracable and have the serial numbers filed away

Also there is black market for legal guns that are unregistered and untraceable

Thats why gun bans wont work imo

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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23346639 - 06/15/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Banning muslims would make the ones that already live in the us even more susceptible to manipulation by ISIS so it will lead to more terror attacks.

It will also severly harm the diplomatic relations to muslim countrys and i think that could end up weakening the US.




Yeah, because diplomatic relations with Muslims countries is more important than national security?

How's our diplomatic relations with Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and others in the region going lately?


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Re: If Muslims are banned... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23346640 - 06/15/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Only if they support jihad already, any Muslim without sympathies to terror should be happy that their loved ones wouldn't be blown up or gunned down by terrorists,





I dont think its that black and white. I find it plausible that such an extreme masure could drive more muslims towards radical ideoligies.


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