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EvLord
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2nd trip
#23343744 - 06/14/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had one trip before and it was 3.5 grams about 3 weeks ago that seemed to be a high level 2 trip that was relatively easy to control. I will be picking up more soon and was wanting to get the opinions of some people more experienced than me if 5 grams would be a more intense experience without getting scary, I want stronger visuals and mind-fuck while still being able to keep my self under control and interactive with my friends I will be tripping with for their first time. So what are your thoughts about 5 grams?
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23343753 - 06/14/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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go for it! it will most certainly be more intensified! it will definitely feel much stronger but shouldnt be too overwhelming
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23343803 - 06/14/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't take five grams if you are supposed to be accompanying people who are tripping for their first time. Everyone reacts differently, if one of your buddies has a difficult experience it is your responsibility to help him through it. Five grams will make it very difficult to be "present" for your friends. Try and be a shaman/teacher for the people who you are introducing to this very powerful chemical, that means being able to deal with anything that comes up. Unless your shrooms aren't very potent, five grams should make you pretty useless. Take the same amount they do, so that hopefully you can feel where they are and you can use that positively.
I do realize after typing that out though that most people aren't like me and don't really take psychedelics seriously. If your friends are rather... there's no nice way for me to put it, because I don't get along well with those people... if they're just doing it because they want to be cool, or get trippy visuals, or anything like that, then don't worry and just do whatever makes you happy. Most people who end up taking psychs probably fall into this category, because they're drugs and the people who are open to doing drugs tend to be a certain way.
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: logikal]
#23343880 - 06/14/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah logikal, that was my point of this question was to see the opinion of you kind people here and see if it would be reasonable enough to handle while two other friends are taking 2 grams, if a 8th was good but not exactly was I am looking for. If the majority believe that 5 is too much of a jump while my friends are experiencing their first time then it can wait but I just thought that it might be a good idea/more of what I want.
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23343895 - 06/14/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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And also the last trip was with about two grams of weed if that makes a difference.
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23343971 - 06/14/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't be social on 5g, talking gets really inconsistent for me when taking that much. But I bet it's different for everyone, though it's definitely on the higher part of the spectrum.
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EvLord
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What about 5 grams alone for my second trip? First trip was with a friend so haven't solo tripped but would 5 grams probably be a good amount to try by myself before doing it around friends? (While keeping my cool!)
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23345009 - 06/14/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well usually I would say no but you said 3.5 only got you to a level 2? That sucks and I'm guessing they're not of very good quality.
3.5 my first time got me a solid level 4 and 3.5 grams now will give me a solid level 3.
So I guess they're weak in which I would just suggest you get mushrooms from somewhere else but you could also take 5 grams. But honestly I would just get from somewhere else. I'd rather take a little bit of potent normal shrooms than a lot of some weak shrooms.
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23345171 - 06/14/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Being around people on 5g, especially first timers, doesn't sound like an ideal plan for a smooth sailing trip...but do what your comfortable with .
I took 5g on my 3rd or 4th trip, it was also my first solo trip. My previous 3 or 4 trips were from threshold up to about a level 1 to level 2.
I've talked about it on here before, but this is what happened>>>>>>
.....with 5g of cubensis.
It was basically a full on death and rebirth type experience, I was "out" through the thick of the trip (likely just appeared as if I was sleeping, probably laying in some weird position ) .
Some of the last things I remember leading up to "blacking out" was losing all aspects of my "self". Losing the plot of who/what/where I was, not being able to remember such things, then not being able to even comprehend the concept of such things, then losing all cognition and ability to think at all....I became nothing more than a point of awareness in a void of caressing vibrations, awareness with out self, timeless...No thoughts about anything, just awareness.....It felt like my "awareness" had merged with the universe, no longer connected to a body, like every bit of my consciousness was smeared across and connected to every minute point of the cosmos..
Upon coming back down, it was sorta like waking up from a dream, but very very slowly....Slowly remembering that this point of awareness was an "I"...Remembering this "I" had a name...Remembering "I" had a life, family, possessions, etc.....Remembering that I was laying on a bed. Remembering that I had ate some mushrooms several hours ago.
It was a considerably more powerful experience than what I had gone through before with lower doses. 5g of proper mushrooms isn't a "social" or a "recreational" sorta dose for the vast majority of people.
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I voted no. You might get a stronger batch and you'll be the trip sitter in need of a trip sitter.
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openmind said: It was basically a full on death and rebirth type experience, I was "out" through the thick of the trip (likely just appeared as if I was sleeping, probably laying in some weird position ) .
Some of the last things I remember leading up to "blacking out" was losing all aspects of my "self". Losing the plot of who/what/where I was, not being able to remember such things, then not being able to even comprehend the concept of such things, then losing all cognition and ability to think at all....I became nothing more than a point of awareness in a void of caressing vibrations, awareness with out self, timeless...No thoughts about anything, just awareness.....It felt like my "awareness" had merged with the universe, no longer connected to a body, like every bit of my consciousness was smeared across and connected to every minute point of the cosmos..
Damn that sounds exactly like my first trip which was on 3.5 and was the only time where an eighth made me literally feel reborn. Apparently after ego death the "new ego" is born which is why it feels like a rebirth.
Since it was my first time 3.5 grams felt like 4.5 or even 5. An eighth isn't nearly as powerful for me now though.
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23345306 - 06/14/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you need to characterize what it is like on small doeses first. Trips can vary quite a bit. Psychedelics are not predicable like other drugs.
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Hmm, sounds like you had some really weak shrooms. 3.5 grams with no tolerance would rape my mind, not to mention five grams. Here's what I think: If the five grams is from the same batch as the first kind, do them at once, and try it alone. Tripping alone gives you more time to focus on the trip, while as being with others can be distracting. But if it's from a different batch/source, maybe test out a smaller dose first, 5 grams of ordinary potency is not to be something taken lightly.
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dr.alkaline said: Psychedelics are not predicable like other drugs.
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EvLord
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Alright guys so I took the 5 grams and my friend took 2 (of a different batch) at about 10:30 and I am coming back down to reality and remembered that I had posted on here and should probably check it out. Alright so the come up was pretty ruff and my friend said he wasn't feeling well (I warned him about maybe throwing up and feeling nauseous) and we were just listening to music and watching tv but he decided to go home (he didn't drive his sister picked him up) so my 5 gram trip with my friend turned into a solo trip were texted my friend that I got them from a lot and talked on the phone with my other friend who was hammered, I also talked a lot with my friend that went home and he was telling me that he was tripping really hard off of the 2 grams and I was tripping very hard also, when I wasn't talking to my friends I just closed my eyes and lost touch with reality for a bit, I also had no sense of time at all. But now I am just reflecting on it while still coming down.
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Re: 2nd trip [Re: EvLord]
#23347434 - 06/15/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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And also there was a very short period of the trip where it turned scary, I went to the bathroom and after I was done it seemed as if the toilet was decaying right in front of me, but then I realized that I was tripping pretty hard and needed to just go sit down for a bit and just let the trip carry on to something else, and while I was in the bathroom I was caught in the mirror for a bit too haha.
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