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Offlineyogashaman21
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the hell with maya
    #23343298 - 06/14/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i don't want to be trapped in a fake illusion world forever! i can't stand what hindus call "maya" i am enslaved in this non-real "reality" it feels like for eons. I'm sick of being trapped in hell for eternity, my life sucks, and nothing changes it at all.


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23343395 - 06/14/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A firm distaste for the illusion of subjectivity is an important part of overcoming it. Meditation and study are good ways of finding the One love that is within you and everyone else.


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21] * 1
    #23345023 - 06/14/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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yogashaman21 said:
i don't want to be trapped in a fake illusion world forever! i can't stand what hindus call "maya" i am enslaved in this non-real "reality" it feels like for eons. I'm sick of being trapped in hell for eternity, my life sucks, and nothing changes it at all.




Then you are already closer to enlightenment than most. The soul has no reason to grow until it comes up against true suffering. And challenge.. Blessings :cheers:


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23346216 - 06/15/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

As others have already said, the desire to escape the illusion is the first step towards actually doing it. Suffering exists for that very reason, to push us towards evolution. Next, you need to find a group, tradition, or teacher who can show you meditation techniques so that you have the tools you need. The mind is the prison that keeps us trapped, so being able to get past the mind is key in finding realisation.

You might already have a tradition you are following, but if not, I can point you in the direction of a group learning step by step (in my experience) the highest teachings with the very purpose of finding realisation and eventually liberation from maya. Send me a PM if you are interested.


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The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
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The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23346298 - 06/15/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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yogashaman21 said:
i don't want to be trapped in a fake illusion world forever! i can't stand what hindus call "maya" i am enslaved in this non-real "reality" it feels like for eons. I'm sick of being trapped in hell for eternity, my life sucks, and nothing changes it at all.





Yogashaman, I appeal to your inner Shaman. You are very wrong here, wrong in that it as terrible as you think it is. It is illusion. PAIN WILL ALWAYS LOSE FROM LOVE. DESTRUCTION WILL ALWAYS LOSE FROM CREATION.

I know how much you suffer, but I must say you this:

Life right now is a cruel Mistress to you. Bear with it and you will be richly rewarded. On your feet soldier and face the pain, and you will overcome it.
TAKE IT.



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Re: the hell with maya [Re: Asante]
    #23348026 - 06/15/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I agree but maya keeps us chained with jobs and bills responsibilities etc.. I as well seek liberation and get faint glimpses that I can never fully obtained without full on dedication that feels impossible while tethered to our realities, I hope one day you get there even though we are already there and dont realize it.


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23348060 - 06/15/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

yogashaman21 said:
i don't want to be trapped in a fake illusion world forever! i can't stand what hindus call "maya" i am enslaved in this non-real "reality" it feels like for eons. I'm sick of being trapped in hell for eternity, my life sucks, and nothing changes it at all.




As silly as this might sound to you right now...but, enjoy the process my friend. Anxiety and fear are very much legitimate during this process, don't resist these forces. Once you truly realize, that this suffering will ultimately be the force, that frees you from the chains of your ego, you will greatly appreciate the way you're on and be truly faithful in everything that happens along your way.


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Edited by Roli (06/15/16 04:54 PM)


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: Roli]
    #23348303 - 06/15/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i'm burning in hell because of the illuminati and I don't know how to get free of these horrible people, i'm literally chained in fire


my life sucks bad


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23351127 - 06/16/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

life's hard and it sucks


Edited by yogashaman21 (06/17/16 02:24 PM)


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23351255 - 06/16/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

yogashaman21 said:
i don't want to be trapped in a fake illusion world forever! i can't stand what hindus call "maya" i am enslaved in this non-real "reality" it feels like for eons. I'm sick of being trapped in hell for eternity, my life sucks, and nothing changes it at all.




Non-real "reality"?
Is it real or unreal?

You seem to believe you're trapped in an illusion, that belief isn't going to help you be free of the illusion.
If you believe that you're bound, how can that ever help you become free, if in truth you were never bound?

Seeking to change your life may relatively improve your life but improving/changing your life isn't going to help you become free of samsara, recognizing the changeless can.
If you were in love with life and everything was hunky dory, you may not seek to wake up. We rarely want to wake up from sweet dreams, sometimes (not always) it has to become a nightmare.

Also, nothing lasts forever, you can't be trapped anywhere for eternity, no matter how convincing it seems it will end.


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23360246 - 06/19/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yogashaman,
When it all comes down to it,
You are god.
Our selves are what we all fear most, deep down.
But, actually, we love us. It's quite cool really. No need to struggle and fight ourselves. Take a day off. You know all this anyway, when you aren't feeling this way.
Love to you x


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Re: the hell with maya [Re: Rainbowmedicine]
    #23368445 - 06/21/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Rainbowmedicine definitely one to listen to.

Maya and Nirvana are one. This world is astonishingly beautiful.

Simply remove the hate of yourself...

Since there is only love...

Your hate is the illusion creating your hateful world.

In this world you reside, you are looking everywhere for lessons, for advice, of how to get free... because hate is just love teaching lessons.

...free of your own self-hate.

Mushrooms are teacher plants. This is a spirituality forum on a teacher plant website.

You led yourself here. We are yourself, here are the lessons.

EDIT -

Start with the usual psychological stuff of respecting yourself.

Hygiene, body image, social dress image.

And then goals,

How high do you aim? Because that implies everything else...

Do you aim directly at God? Because that is the most mysterious adventure. It will also lead to housemates calling the CAT team. :laugh:

Do you aim to improve your local community instead then? Or maybe just the lives of those you live with.

You make yourself happy by making others happy. "Others" are you.

...what about both? A mundane and spiritual quest at once.

Bring the plunder of the spiritual quest back to the community through your spiritual empowered state of mind.

If you get really high on the rungs of enlightenment,

A simple greeting of someone will turn their lives around, if you do it right.

That's how powerful we are, and that's how absurd this stagnated, psychotic world is.

Actually there is the explanation - the world is psychotic, only the symptoms are socially acceptable and the illness is unconscious.

Anyway,

SELF-RESPECT

Start there.

A SELF-RESPECTING person has goals, aims, because it is self-disrespect, of course, to say to oneself that one has no potential.


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Edited by beforethedawn (06/21/16 10:02 PM)


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