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brendon
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#23341856 - 06/14/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Post deleted by brendonReason for deletion: Not helpful because of the way I worded my question. I will read a lot more threads and then repost my question with carefully chosen words. Thank you
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: brendon]
#23341865 - 06/14/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Take the out of the incubator and just keep them on a shelf getting ambient light between 60 and 79 degrees F.
Just for future posts, nobody swims here.
And deleting your posts after you get an answer is punishable by ban.
Wherever they are make sure they have access to fresh air. No bags.
It takes about 14 - 21 days for full colonization.
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bodhisatta 
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You want a still air box not a glove box. HEPA filters are useless unless you have allergies or something. A laminar low hood is much different than just a HEPA filter. A still air box is just as effective as using a flow hood.
Incubators drastically increase the odds of failure for noobs
Likewise don't put jars in a bag either. Just leave them on a shelf in room temperature 60-80F is fine 68-72 is perfect 65-75 is my preferred range.
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: brendon]
#23341920 - 06/14/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did you pressure cook to sterilize or did you boil them?
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: Nekobasu]
#23341947 - 06/14/16 01:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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They were bought sterilized. Op didn't make then pf cakes themselves
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: bodhisatta]
#23342395 - 06/14/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The odds of contamination increases with with lack of sterile techinque. Sounds like she used lot of old school methods which grew plenty of mushrooms for the follks around here 10-20 years ago. Other than getting a bit poked at for not studying and using the most on the cusp growing tech and sterile technique. Other than that. Depending on how much you studied, you probably have a 20-65% contamination rate which is a theoretical percentage it means absolutely nothing.
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: Groo]
#23342398 - 06/14/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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12-40 days for full colonization depends on so many factors.
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: Groo]
#23342488 - 06/14/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by brendon (06/28/16 12:51 PM)
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: brendon]
#23342621 - 06/14/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats way old and outdated info. they benefit from a 12hr on/off light cycle for their whole life. and dont need to be in near 80F temps. low 70s is much better for them and they can even be fine as low as 64F. Whereas contams and bacteria usualy love the higher temps around and above 80F. and you dont want to give those any more of an opportunity than they might already have. also, at certain temps(i think closer to high 80s) the myc will dry out and die.
next time you do research/searches use the search feature that you will see at the top middle of the site. then when doing searches, fliter the results to only show threads newer than 3-5 years old. and you can even filter to only show TC posts, or show just picture posts.. its a great tool.
but yeah, you have probably been reading very old info, which has changed now.
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Edited by mupetmower (06/14/16 09:31 AM)
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: mupetmower]
#23342941 - 06/14/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just stop, we all know it's you. You are the one growing a controlled substance. You.
I swear, nobody can own up to their shit these days..
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: Inocuole]
#23342955 - 06/14/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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first tell your friend to do the research herself, this is way too much for you to learn and then pass on to a friend. bound to fail. second just DYI and follow www.mushroomvideos.com right about now so you dont wait in vain for your pre-contamed jars to show contams..
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brendon
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Edited by brendon (06/28/16 12:52 PM)
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: brendon]
#23343775 - 06/14/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man... Take them out of the incubator... Just put them on a shelf... And to avoid contamination from this point, ummmmmmmm like... Don't open them.
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: LocN9ne]
#23343836 - 06/14/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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i incubate in total darkness at 76-78F in a TiT. speeds up colonization times and only increases odds of contam if sterile technique was off(or if you cant regulate the temp properly and it gets super hot).
it definitely sped up colonization time for me, noticeably at that. but my wife likes to keep the house like a refrigerator, so my myc doesnt really like the normal house temps :p
if its your first time though id stay as safe as possible so that you can make sure you come out with good healthy mushrooms!
good luck
edit - also maybe im just old, but wtf is this SWIM stuff? lol
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Edited by MycoLoopology (06/14/16 03:31 PM)
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MycoLoopology said: i incubate in total darkness at 76-78F in a TiT. speeds up colonization times and only increases odds of contam if sterile technique was off(or if you cant regulate the temp properly and it gets super hot).
Alright, here's the part where I'm gonna ask that if you are still doing stuff like this, you go ahead and take it easy on giving advice in like every thread. Incubating in darkness is really really old school outdated info. Incubators are only even necessary if you can't keep your house above ~60F. You can chime in on stuff and encourage people to try agar and whatnot all you want but, TiTs incubating higher than 70F and colonizing in the dark is where the line gets drawn around here.
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: Inocuole]
#23343954 - 06/14/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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MycoLoopology said: i incubate in total darkness at 76-78F in a TiT. speeds up colonization times and only increases odds of contam if sterile technique was off(or if you cant regulate the temp properly and it gets super hot).
Alright, here's the part where I'm gonna ask that if you are still doing stuff like this, you go ahead and take it easy on giving advice in like every thread. Incubating in darkness is really really old school outdated info. Incubators are only even necessary if you can't keep your house above ~60F. You can chime in on stuff and encourage people to try agar and whatnot all you want but, TiTs incubating higher than 70F and colonizing in the dark is where the line gets drawn around here.
i had a feeling this post was coming lol. ive heard theres a big portion of the community against incubating, but im personally 100% for it. be it outdated or not. i also mentioned that my house is like a refrigerator :p
i was unaware of the whole light thing however, which is quite interesting. i AM outdated at this point i know and i have lot to learn. which is why im here i suppose. i learned my mushroom technique 10 years ago, and really i have only deviated from it slightly using guides by frank.
while i failed to use my disclaimer in the previous post, i always try to make sure people understand that i am by no means an expert and am only giving my opinion so as to allow the OP to see various viewpoints from both veterans, noobs, and those in between.
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Frank used a tub in a tub incubator because it was literally 60f in his rooms. Unless you're under 65F an incubator is most often counterproductive
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Re: Odds of contamination [Re: bodhisatta]
#23343980 - 06/14/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Frank used a tub in a tub incubator because it was literally 60f in his rooms. Unless you're under 65F an incubator is most often counterproductive
They are excellent for growing bacteria though...
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brendon said: ok, so should the jars remain in the incubator or be removed and placed someplace with light? They appear to be close to 3/4 colonized. what requirements should be present to accommodate the jars without increasing the odds of contamination? Preventative measures? Any help is appreciated!
here, RR right in your living room, in video, all those q's are answered:
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spacechildo said: follow www.mushroomvideos.com
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