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Dayo22
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Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? *DELETED*
#23340692 - 06/13/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Reason for deletion: No longer in the hobby
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Dayo22
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Dayo22]
#23340741 - 06/13/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Dayo22]
#23340749 - 06/13/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always let my penis envy go too long.
Because they hardly ever drop spores you can get away with it.
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Dayo22
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#23340801 - 06/13/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Would if the cap is starting to turn black ? What causes that. The first one to pop through is the biggest one you see in the pictures pretty sure its ready to go but you say to just leave it till they are all ready ?
The ones with dark caps im claiming aborts leave them in to ? How do i onow when the first flush is done i see more pins coming in. On the side again !:/ i wish they would pin ontop :/ that is caused by low humidity right ? I never checked to see if the substrate was at field capacity when i started.
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#23340805 - 06/13/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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while im no expert i feel you made one fatal error that i can at least spot. you didnt line the tub. this allowed most of the nutes to go to the side mushrooms(or something like that), which causes the mushrooms to grow from the sides rather than the top.
i made this mistake very early in my career and had similar results. using a liner instantly started me off with small canopies and no sidepins.
just my 2 cents. im sure others will have much better info for you lol.
edit - in another note. i find that using regular plastic trash bags as lining will actually shrink WITH the substrate as you flush. keeping side pins from occurring through out the tubs life.
hope this helps a bit, and good luck buddy!
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Edited by MycoLoopology (06/13/16 07:47 PM)
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Dayo22]
#23340808 - 06/13/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're good to harvest now if you want dude. This is basically the perfect time.
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#23340834 - 06/13/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea this is actually my first ever expirament and i have noticed quiet a few mistakes a made in the process i definetly apreciate the advice and already planeed on using a liner in a regular monotub next time. I didnt have enough substrate/ coir so i did this tub in tub thing. Honestly im just super happy i will harvest anything being its p.e , a dubtub/ monotub lol and its my first expirament ever. Thank you !
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MycoLoopology
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Dayo22]
#23340839 - 06/13/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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absolutely mate, we all start somewhere right?
so long as you enjoy the journey thats what matters bud, good luck
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23340842 - 06/13/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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MycoLoopology said: while im no expert i feel you made one fatal error that i can at least spot. you didnt line the tub. this allowed most of the nutes to go to the side mushrooms(or something like that), which causes the mushrooms to grow from the sides rather than the top.
It's because of the microclimate between the substrate and the tub, mycelium is not arbitrarily limited to where it can push nutrients in that way. A casing layer may have also encouraged more pins on the top of the substrate.
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23340850 - 06/13/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It has definetly bin lots of fun. Cant wait to expierence these p.e. never cared to ask what kind they were before but now i will no forsure!
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Dayo22]
#23340861 - 06/13/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That one with the darker cap is not aborted...it just looks young, still has a way to go.
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MycoLoopology
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Inocuole]
#23340862 - 06/13/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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MycoLoopology said: while im no expert i feel you made one fatal error that i can at least spot. you didnt line the tub. this allowed most of the nutes to go to the side mushrooms(or something like that), which causes the mushrooms to grow from the sides rather than the top.
It's because of the microclimate between the substrate and the tub, mycelium is not arbitrarily limited to where it can push nutrients in that way. A casing layer may have also encouraged more pins on the top of the substrate.
oh my... that makes WAY more sense lmao. i suppose a majority of the moisture gathers along the sides in that way as well.
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23340867 - 06/13/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It just grows where conditions are best, and nowhere else. A big flat surface where the conditions are even and the same is how you get a big pinset. Alternatively if the sides are all better than the top you get basically nothing on top.

Used to happen to me before I started casing and using a liner.
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Inocuole]
#23340883 - 06/13/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So the wax paper cut to size and layed ontop would bemefit my second flush correct ? Also what do you use for a casing layer? Do you think jiffy mix will be sufficient. ? Also would it be to late to add the casing after harvesting the first flush ?
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MycoLoopology
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Inocuole]
#23340901 - 06/13/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: It just grows where conditions are best, and nowhere else. A big flat surface where the conditions are even and the same is how you get a big pinset. Alternatively if the sides are all better than the top you get basically nothing on top.

Used to happen to me before I started casing and using a liner.
its uncanny how much that looks like my first tub ever, wow...
edit - and yes, same here. liner, casing layer, gypsum. proper technique. every little thing really matters! just takes time to learn (:
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Edited by MycoLoopology (06/13/16 08:08 PM)
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Dayo22
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23340924 - 06/13/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you guys i really apreciate the advice. Do i harvest this big boy now or wait till the rest catch up ? Why is his cap getting darker !?
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MycoLoopology
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Dayo22]
#23341089 - 06/13/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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well.. again im not an expert so dont listen to me outright and make the decision lol. wait for better answers.
now it also depends on strain sometimes.. but me personally, i will pluck or cut the caps off the BIG mushies that grow before the rest are ready to start popping up. the spores that fall off the big mushies can be great for isolating strains, but are also terrible if they fall all over the top of your substrate/myc where new mushrooms will want to grow.
i do this to the first few BIG mushies in my tubs that break veil early. its probably not all that important, but i have weird little habits now. wait for someone else to chime in though like i said haha.
honestly though, for your first grow, id say just let it play out and learn from it as you go. its the journey that makes it all the more fun, and youre absolutely on the right track. each new grow from here on will be better and better until one day itll all come naturally to you.
edit - i missed this post of yours..
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Dayo22 said: So the wax paper cut to size and layed ontop would bemefit my second flush correct ? Also what do you use for a casing layer? Do you think jiffy mix will be sufficient. ? Also would it be to late to add the casing after harvesting the first flush ?
im not sure what the wax paper would be for? as for casing layer, you just use your substrate(coir/verm/hpoo/gypsum/etc.). but no you wouldnt add a casing layer now! your mycelium has stopped spreading/growing and is now in fruiting conditions. putting a casing layer now will only stunt growth i believe. but again, i could be wrong and im waiting for someone else to disprove or agree with me :p
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Edited by MycoLoopology (06/13/16 08:56 PM)
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: MycoLoopology] 1
#23341114 - 06/13/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it looks like this it's good to go, otherwise give it some time.

The biggest one you have with the wrinkly stipe under the cap is ready, the one with the very dark cap is nowhere near ready.
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: Inocuole]
#23341627 - 06/13/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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On that first picture, can we get a look at the dark spot that is towards the top of the image? That looks a little fishy.
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MycoLoopology
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Re: Did i wait to long for my penis envy harvest? Any advice please !? [Re: dankington]
#23341647 - 06/13/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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dankington said: On that first picture, can we get a look at the dark spot that is towards the top of the image? That looks a little fishy.
i saw that and just thought over moisture or some other issue related to FAE or Co2. but a close up would definitely help...
you can see the spot better in his second post/second pic top tub. still looks fishy i suppose..
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