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UGH How do you deal with this?
    #23339493 - 06/13/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I birthed my first cakes yesterday.  YAY.

BUUUUT  how do you deal with the anticipation?  I mean.... I want to hug them and kiss them.... and see them grow. 

I know it can take lots of days to see pins but the anticipation is absolutely killing me.  I am afraid I am going to go overboard with misting and fanning the poor little guys.

I work at home so it's just so tempting to run over there and look and then well.... you know....  mist and fan again lol.

Heelllllp!!!


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: shitakigirl] * 2
    #23339513 - 06/13/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Ha!
I legit had the same feeling during my first cakes, and consequently I did over mist them. Didn't turn out bad though.

In all seriousness, only mist when there's no visible moisture on the cake. Once you see pins your FC will probably get more unnecessary attention then your TV if anything like me!
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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: shitakigirl]
    #23339520 - 06/13/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

What I did to help combat with that issue though was start on a bunch of other Mushroom projects that I don't have the time for.

It helps to keep me from getting too much anticipation and impatience over one particular project, as I will usually have something else I could work on.
Finally made a glovebox yesterday!

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Tripping2Adventure] * 1
    #23339522 - 06/13/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It's tough, Shitakigirl. Maybe try and have only certain times you allow yourself to check on them? Mushrooms are a classic example of something that does best if you give them ideal conditions and just let them do their thing. Like T2A said, just get more stuff going! That's really what we all do.

T2A, I hope the gloves aren't attached to your box :wink:

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: dankington]
    #23339531 - 06/13/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I think you guys are right!!  Start a new batch - it will give me something else to dote on :smile:


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: dankington]
    #23339544 - 06/13/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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T2A, I hope the gloves aren't attached to your box :wink:




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Well, that would be the difference between a glovebox and SAB, right?

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23339548 - 06/13/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

That's right. That was my roundabout way of saying to use a SAB instead. You'll have more success.

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23339550 - 06/13/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yes and GloveBoxes suck. I did that right away and had contam city for all my troubles. Then riped the gloves off to make a simple SAB and am 98% better.


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: NewZooReview]
    #23339562 - 06/13/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

My box has no gloves just a SAB - so far so good.


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: shitakigirl]
    #23339644 - 06/13/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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That's right. That was my roundabout way of saying to use a SAB instead. You'll have more success.



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Yes and GloveBoxes suck. I did that right away and had contam city for all my troubles. Then riped the gloves off to make a simple SAB and am 98% better.



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My box has no gloves just a SAB - so far so good.




Well shit, I must have skipped over any of this advice in previous threads. And the gloves make the box look so 'official', lol.
Guess I'll take them out. Already made a 35cc Spore syringe and inoculated some jars with it, hopefully I'll have luck this time around.

Thanks for the tips! I'll just put on some latex gloves or wash up real good from now on.

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: shitakigirl] * 1
    #23339659 - 06/13/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

honestly, i dont think this feeling EVER goes away lol. at least it doesnt for me. every plant i grow, whether it be tomatoes, eggplants, herbs, buds, mushrooms.. patience is key, but MAN is it hard not to anticipate the results constantly!

but thats what keeps it exciting :smile: make sure that feeling lasts eh?

good luck!


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23339664 - 06/13/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Syringes are not all that reliable, contams run rampant inside them and you will never know if they are clean or not until it takes over your project.

Your best bet is to get some spores and germinate some myc on agar.

If you master agar work you'll have luck every time.


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Myko Fanatikos]
    #23339680 - 06/13/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Syringes are not all that reliable, contams run rampant inside them and you will never know if they are clean or not until it takes over your project.

Your best bet is to get some spores and germinate some myc on agar.

If you master agar work you'll have luck every time.




ive only done agar ONCE, along with a little liquid culture project. i can 100% see the benefits in working this way so long as your sterile technique is proper. i have ONLY ever used a SAB though and it has always done me right.

my LC ended up contaminating not long after though due to improper needle usage and such. but my agar was a beautiful thing. and i did grain transfers with it till i ran out.

otherwise my preferred method is still just G2G from master jars. easy to do in SAB and quite a wonderful way to increase your load of jars!


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Myko Fanatikos]
    #23339712 - 06/13/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Syringes are not all that reliable, contams run rampant inside them and you will never know if they are clean or not until it takes over your project.

Your best bet is to get some spores and germinate some myc on agar.

If you master agar work you'll have luck every time.




Yea yea I'm getting there. Had a few failures with agar before my, newly converted, SAB.
Am planning on making a batch tomorrow then doing some tissue samples and a few spore samples to agar. Have like 40 petris now, going to give some of those glad mini rounds a try, too, in the near future.
To help keep things clean with the syringe, I was using a new syringe sealed in the package, yet I know that spore prints are not perfectly contaim free.

But yes, I can't wait to master culture work.. I'll be doing SO many more spawn bags and grain work altogether with doing wedge transfers rather than spore solution.

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: shitakigirl]
    #23339718 - 06/13/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I think you guys are right!!  Start a new batch - it will give me something else to dote on :smile:





Go to the store, buy a Mario Bros Toadstool stuffed doll, then hug them heck out of him. Should help out your urges :grin:


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23339728 - 06/13/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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shitakigirl said:
I think you guys are right!!  Start a new batch - it will give me something else to dote on :smile:





Go to the store, buy a Mario Bros Toadstool stuffed doll, then hug them heck out of him. Should help out your urges :grin:





HAH HAH - best advice yet!


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: shitakigirl] * 1
    #23339741 - 06/13/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I think you guys are right!!  Start a new batch - it will give me something else to dote on :smile:



Make a few of these if you have the means for extra quart jars.. No misting or fanning required, just have to harvest when it's time.
You can even still hug the jar while it's growing.
I used some pvc fittings on each end of the lid with some hot glue and then drilled 4(four) 1/8" holes evenly spaced in the lid (on the outside of the pvc fittings).
Saw the tek somewhere on here but a little different.

I would think this is a fairly clean way to grow for spore prints as well, am I wrong?

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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Tripping2Adventure] * 1
    #23339763 - 06/13/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

My SAB is a basic 58qt tote with holes in the side so I can get into it. No, bells, whistles, gloves attached.

I do use gloves when handling anything related to myc except when mixing my grains with sub while making totes.

Agar is a lot easier than most people think. I jumped right into it and mind you I did have a few issues. Nothing too crazy of course, but I've had more than 1 contaminate using my sloppy ass SAB.

Agar will be your bread and butter when it comes to advancing via larger/more flushes. A monoculture and the fabled motherload is what it's all about.

Even if you have a contaminated plate it is very simple to transfer away from it. I made the mistake of transferring large chunks of agar to another plate my first couple tries. There was nothing wrong with what I did but I was transferring multiple strains instead of trying to seperate a single strain for a monoculture.

Even if you don't get a monoculture your first..or second try, as long as the plates are clean I still use them mono or not. I see no reason to waste some good clean live myc.

I usually cut my agar into 8 plates and put 4 per 1/2 pint jar and then g2g them to quart jars. I've been experimenting with half gallon jars and I have to say that they have exceeded expectations.

The sooner you start the faster you'll learn, don't rush anything and you'll do great :smile:

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I think you guys are right!!  Start a new batch - it will give me something else to dote on :smile:



Make a few of these if you have the means for extra quart jars.. No misting or fanning required, just have to harvest when it's time.
You can even still hug the jar while it's growing.
I used some pvc fittings on each end of the lid with some hot glue and then drilled 4(four) 1/8" holes evenly spaced in the lid (on the outside of the pvc fittings).
Saw the tek somewhere on here but a little different.

I would think this is a fairly clean way to grow for spore prints as well, am I wrong?





There are a few different lid tek that call for a small pvc with cotton in it to prevent contaminate and a self healing injection port. I don't use them but a lot of people here do and they work very well.

As for clean spore prints...no flow hood, good luck lol.

Even taken inside a sab they have a.good chance of carrying some nasties around with them. All mine are laid on foil and covered with a jar just for good measure. It retains a little moisture and the only other real difference I've noticed compared to no jar is that the mushies don't stick to the foil as they continue to try and open up.


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Re: UGH How do you deal with this? [Re: Tripping2Adventure] * 1
    #23339773 - 06/13/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Cleanest way is to grow a pin invitro in agar and swab from there.

OP- more projects and culture work will keep your mind off it. It's my third sgfc run, and I've finally gotten to the point in which if they need something they'll let me know.. it's 6 days and I haven't been on a fan/mist schedule and they're knotting. Keeping your mind busy on other projects will help. Read up on agar and take some tissue samples when this grow is done.

Let us know if you run into any problems. Don't mist just to mist. Do it when they need it. Good luck.

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    #23339781 - 06/13/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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