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 Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) 
#23338542 - 06/13/16 06:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi all,
I'm looking for some advice/insight on some experiences I've had recently.
At a dose of around 0.04-0.05 I've recently found that I'm being consistently met with the same type of entity and can't seem to have an experience with anything different.
The entities are always right up in my face and seem to shift frequently in to different shapes. I would pass this off as nothing but shifting geometry if it weren't for the fact that there is a clear sentience there (it's quite apparent that what is in front of me is "alive) and I can often see it doing things, like opening it's mouth and letting something out, that seem to be being done because I'm in front of it.
I've had incredibly deep experiences, been ported in to a box in a cosmic train of sorts, filled with beings of pure light. I've been welcomed in to machines and shown beautiful things. I've had less intense trips where I've found myself among the "jim jam" (this is a different form of shape shifting to what I'm seeing). Lately, though, every trip is like a trip to the "circus" and these things are always crowding me.
I guess one of the biggest takeaways is that they seem full on but not particularly malevolent. I try not to take my experiences casually and often set out with an intention and after meditation.
I will note that these have been a few experiences after 2-3 months of not touching DMT. The DMT has been from a different person this time around, though I have no reason to think that should cause what I'm experiencing.
Has anything ever had this happen on numerous, consecutive trips? And how have you dealt with it?
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23338931 - 06/13/16 09:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23338986 - 06/13/16 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The DMT has been from a different person this time around, though I have no reason to think that should cause what I'm experiencing.
OK so some of you will say I am crazy for thinking this, but it's how I am so kick rocks, but I feel like when I get a substance from a person that their energy leaves a "signature" on that substance, so this is why I am careful of who I buy anything from.
I picked mushrooms for a very long time, and never had to buy them, the handful of times I was given homegrown mushrooms I got them from a person who was known to be growing/selling them for profit, and they were kind of a shady person to deal with. The couple of times I bought mushrooms, the trips were much darker, and I did not like them at all.
When taking wild picked mushrooms I would literally feel the vibes of earth all around me, like I had gotten something from a pure source, and the magick within the earth, was contained in the mushroom, the shroom being the vessel for something much greater, some deeper magick.
I have heard others say this, maybe it's all in my head, maybe not, but I think when dealing with psychs it's important to procure such sacraments, from good sources.
I have only taken DMT a handful of times, and have never broken through, sorry I cannot be more helpful to you, but hope you find what you're looking for my friend.
I suggest reading a book entitled "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" there is some interesting stuff in it which I think you will find helpful, there's also a movie with the same name which features some interesting insights from those in the psychedelic community.
I am curious about one thing though, what did these beings look like? I have read they can appear insectoid, reptilian, angelic, elvish, to name a few forms.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Lucis]
#23339961 - 06/13/16 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry if I sound like a cunt, but it is all in both of your heads. Just subconscious thoughts showing themselves in different ways.
The "entities" you keep seeing are just the effects of DMT. A lot of people try to see these entities because that is what DMT offers.
If you don't like the effects of DMT then try something else.
Or you could keep doing DMT and try to focus on something else while tripping.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Bardy] 1
#23339965 - 06/13/16 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stop acting like you have all the answers fuckboy
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23340203 - 06/13/16 04:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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At first glance i read the title as "shoplifting" entities LOL
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23340266 - 06/13/16 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The human brain is certainly capable of creating what we perceive as completely seperate entities.
Almost every night in the form of dream characters; people in our lives..perfect strangers...talking anumals, monsters, aliens etc...
We also see these entities in full hallucinations, and people with mental illnesses
So the DMT entities.... Im open that they could be some "other" , but I also finx that a bit dubious
It's a pretty amazing thing regardless of what it is... that our brain can create a seperate conciousness
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23340276 - 06/13/16 05:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes i've had this happen i just try not to get scared and go with it, it's just part of the trip sometimes. I don't think they are trying to hurt you are they???
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: mushpunx]
#23340302 - 06/13/16 05:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes I've thought about that view before and have tried to apply it to what happened and have spent hours on end trying to make sense of it and just found that every western view I could throw at it didn't hold up. There's just too many things that basically disprove that like another person seeing the same thing at the same time (no not convincing ourselves we did) and also the very FACT that they seem to have knowdlge and other worldly feelings. You don't just see an entity you fully "know" what you're seeing. Many other things about it too completely wreck your old fashioned humanized logic. It's too overly humanized.
I would obviously never just "assume" something like this either. There is obviously a lot of things that prove it for me. Literally endless reasons why I think they're real.
They likely are so to assume they're not is childish.
I've been very skeptical of it and it still won. It still wins even if you're skeptical because real out of context logic can't beat it only fake reassuring logic.
Basically I've found that this "view" is pretty childish. Sorry.
I would love just LOVE to think that there just projections of our own subconscious but that would require me getting down to the level of a child.
Real actual timeless logic doesn't support what you're saying. You're too much in context here.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23340462 - 06/13/16 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How can you say it has been proven to you?
The level of a child? Dude calm down and think for a minute. I do not claim to have all the answers haha, I'm just going by what we do know mate.
You having claimed that you've proven these things to yourself by your own logic and subjective experiences is a much wilder claim than mine.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Bardy]
#23340542 - 06/13/16 06:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You having claimed that you've proven these things to yourself by your own logic and subjective experiences is a much wilder claim than mine.
What the fuck I never said any of that you're the one who needs to calm down. You need a higher dose bud.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23341295 - 06/13/16 09:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like you need to stop those high doses
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Bardy]
#23341386 - 06/13/16 09:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe try meditation and prepare yourself differently for the experiences. I find psychedelics effect mostly dependant on my state of mind, there's plenty others like me, maybe you too OP?
You can try drinking some calming tea and do some inner searching before you smoke and maybe even change your setting and lighting too.
You also have the power to banish entities in DMT trips by denying them, and even in extreme circumstances where they feel malevolent you can call on "God" to help you. Only do that if you can't do it alone though.
Be safe.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Northerner]
#23341812 - 06/14/16 12:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think a lot of this conversation is beside the point. The guy sees what he thinks are entities, whatever is causing him to see the entities doesn't matter. He doesn't want to see them anymore.
I would say that it's your mindset that's causing the similarity of experience, and that your trips won't change until your mindset changes, so I would just recommend a long break from DMT until you become a different person and see the world in a different way. Then you'll most likely have a different trip.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: healing]
#23341900 - 06/14/16 01:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do appreciate the effort to understand the DMT experience from a secular, scientific standing, and I'm more likely than not to err on the side of the mundane in most matters.
My experiences with DMT (and, to a lesser extent, heavy mushroom doses), on the other hand, are experiences I find difficult to align with my typical world view, so I'm not entirely closed off to the possibility that some mechanism beyond our current understanding allows for a level of communion between our physical world and forms of life that may exist by some other medium. Without definitive evidence, I'm happy for such ideas to be met with scrutiny. They certainly shy from the standard model.
I've read the arguments against discarnate beings and there seems some sense to it, though I think those explanations raise further questions. Across a broad user base, the cataloguing of the denizens of whatever-you-choose-to-assume-that-place-is has led to fairly consistent categorizations. This is often put down to the manifestation of common psychological archetypes. The problem I have is that, if the entire experience is in our minds, that it's some projection of our imagination, why do we have no control over the experience in the way we might if we suddenly realised that we were dreaming? We're certainly conscious throughout the experience, and aware that we are seeing something other than real life. Why then should we not be able to take charge of the hallunication and disrupt the narrative?
And surely imagination differs considerably between individuals. Why then do we all seem to describe the same experiences in the same places, with the same entities? Why does the mind ascribe feelings of pure bliss/love to certain types of entities (eg. the humanoid beings of light) but not to others and why are those sensations common to the same entities in other people's heads?
This is really just philosophy at the end of the day, as neither you nor I have any means by which to prove any of our assertions beyond reasonable doubt. Whilst I'm happy to entertain (and still often do) the idea that all of it is a pointless waking dream, I do think it's naive to make such firm conclusions while our understanding of the substance is still in its infancy.
It really is besides the point, though. My initial enquiry was whether anyone else had experienced something similar.
In response to some of the other comments, no, I've never felt as though they wished me ill will (I have with other entities, but never these), and my mental state may play some part, though I was not met with this problem 2-3 months ago and I don't believe much has changed since then.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Northerner]
#23341913 - 06/14/16 01:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe try meditation and prepare yourself differently for the experiences. I find psychedelics effect mostly dependant on my state of mind, there's plenty others like me, maybe you too OP?
You can try drinking some calming tea and do some inner searching before you smoke and maybe even change your setting and lighting too.
You also have the power to banish entities in DMT trips by denying them, and even in extreme circumstances where they feel malevolent you can call on "God" to help you. Only do that if you can't do it alone though.
Be safe.
Once again qouting you because you pretty much summed it up.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23342027 - 06/14/16 02:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do appreciate the effort to understand the DMT experience from a secular, scientific standing, and I'm more likely than not to err on the side of the mundane in most matters.
My experiences with DMT (and, to a lesser extent, heavy mushroom doses), on the other hand, are experiences I find difficult to align with my typical world view, so I'm not entirely closed off to the possibility that some mechanism beyond our current understanding allows for a level of communion between our physical world and forms of life that may exist by some other medium. Without definitive evidence, I'm happy for such ideas to be met with scrutiny. They certainly shy from the standard model.
I've read the arguments against discarnate beings and there seems some sense to it, though I think those explanations raise further questions. Across a broad user base, the cataloguing of the denizens of whatever-you-choose-to-assume-that-place-is has led to fairly consistent categorizations. This is often put down to the manifestation of common psychological archetypes. The problem I have is that, if the entire experience is in our minds, that it's some projection of our imagination, why do we have no control over the experience in the way we might if we suddenly realised that we were dreaming? We're certainly conscious throughout the experience, and aware that we are seeing something other than real life. Why then should we not be able to take charge of the hallunication and disrupt the narrative?
And surely imagination differs considerably between individuals. Why then do we all seem to describe the same experiences in the same places, with the same entities? Why does the mind ascribe feelings of pure bliss/love to certain types of entities (eg. the humanoid beings of light) but not to others and why are those sensations common to the same entities in other people's heads?
This is really just philosophy at the end of the day, as neither you nor I have any means by which to prove any of our assertions beyond reasonable doubt. Whilst I'm happy to entertain (and still often do) the idea that all of it is a pointless waking dream, I do think it's naive to make such firm conclusions while our understanding of the substance is still in its infancy.
It really is besides the point, though. My initial enquiry was whether anyone else had experienced something similar.
In response to some of the other comments, no, I've never felt as though they wished me ill will (I have with other entities, but never these), and my mental state may play some part, though I was not met with this problem 2-3 months ago and I don't believe much has changed since then.
I'm not disputing what you believe, I'm just giving you the only advice I have that I think will help you. If you don't want to see these particular entities and you can't find any other way to get them to leave you alone, maybe you should try taking a break from visiting them and they'll get tired of waiting around for you and find some other entity to bother.
People always come to this forum seeking people who have had similar experiences to their isolated and individual experiences. I don't know what it is about the psychedelic experience that makes people feel that whatever weird aspect of their trips is plaguing them must be somehow universal or have some more widely known solution that they're just not aware of.
Nobody here knows how to control the entities that you are interacting with. How could you think that's possible? Nobody here was even aware of the entities that you've encountered before you mentioned them in your very vague post.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: healing]
#23342049 - 06/14/16 03:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree.
Plenty of people here know how to deal with entities in a personal manner, and there's even more over on dmtnexus. What you assume is just wrong healing.
There is very little we experience on psychedelics that hasn't been done or seen before. It's just how we deal with and interpret these experiences that can be very unique. I think talking about it can help a lot. It can let us see other people's views on very similar experiences and also learn about coping mechanisms and more.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23342056 - 06/14/16 03:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I experience very similar visions each time I take DMT. They mostly come as CEV's right before I start to trip extremely hard. The figures will be moving and warping so fast, getting right in my face studying me, teasing me, taunting me, flirting with me. They make hand gestures, smile, wink and try to lure me into their world. I have seen some frightening ones, but even those seem to have a "playful" vibe about them. But it's weird because the harder I start tripping, the less apparent they become as the visuals get brighter and become blinding and I feel like I'm losing the ability to think for myself. I think "circus" creatures describes them perfectly.
Perhaps subconsciously your mind is trying to reveal something particular to you?
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: healing]
#23342251 - 06/14/16 06:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi Healing.
Sorry, my post was mostly aimed at Bardy's assertion that the whole thing is nothing more than a hallucination.
I didn't mean to dismiss your suggestion. I was just talking it through. I don't THINK much has changed in my mindset recently. Not since my last trips, in which I seemed to travel a lot deeper. Haven't had any major shifts in my life or outlook. I still approach it with the same respect as I did then. Taking another break is definitely an option.
I do think that, among the experienced users on these forums, there are certainly tips for approaching the trips that can sway one's experience a little. Not so much control what's there, but perhaps someone with similar experiences has had better luck with their pre-trip ritual etc.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Sparkles]
#23342253 - 06/14/16 06:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I experience very similar visions each time I take DMT. They mostly come as CEV's right before I start to trip extremely hard. The figures will be moving and warping so fast, getting right in my face studying me, teasing me, taunting me, flirting with me. They make hand gestures, smile, wink and try to lure me into their world. I have seen some frightening ones, but even those seem to have a "playful" vibe about them. But it's weird because the harder I start tripping, the less apparent they become as the visuals get brighter and become blinding and I feel like I'm losing the ability to think for myself. I think "circus" creatures describes them perfectly.
Perhaps subconsciously your mind is trying to reveal something particular to you?
This is EXACTLY what I'm experiencing, to the letter.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Bardy]
#23342600 - 06/14/16 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry if I sound like a cunt, but it is all in both of your heads. Just subconscious thoughts showing themselves in different ways.
OK, but if you encounter a being on psychs, and that being offers you a bit of helpful information about your life, or shows you the future which turns out to be true, then doesn't that mean those experiences are real? Sure they might just be a creation of your mind, but if what is shown turns out to be true, then they are in fact true in that sense.
The mind is a powerful tool, take placebo for instance, how people can believe that something will heal them even though there's no medical background to prove that what they're taking actually works. There is still some mystery left in this world.
I see no harm in this way of thinking, as long as you don't tell someone to convert their lifestyle because insectoid jesus told you he was the way while you were out of your mind of dmt.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Lucis]
#23343821 - 06/14/16 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Had a dream last night that reminded me of my shapeshifting dmt visuals. In the dream, I was with people in an open field next to an abandoned factory, talking and waiting for the event we gathered for to start. A couple fireworks went off near the factory, but when they exploded in air they unfolded into a technological kite-like solar panel. The X shaped panels drifted in the air for a moment, then these massive shapeshifting machines appeared in the sky. They started out the size of a plane or ship, and kept unfolding extra dimensions of itself as it approached until it was hovering very close and much larger than the factory with many shapes and angles added onto its original form. The fluidity of the shifting and rhythm of the growth was very familiar, like I've seen from DMT shapeshifters and hip hop dancers that can tut.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Icon]
#23345038 - 06/14/16 08:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I myself believe the entities seen on Dmt are real, and could prove it if I wanted to. Just be careful if you are feeling uncomfortable on trips you may be indulging too mucho, but good luck with your future trips & healing. Peace
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Sparkles]
#23345118 - 06/14/16 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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....The figures will be moving and warping so fast, getting right in my face studying me, teasing me, taunting me, flirting with me. They make hand gestures, smile, wink and try to lure me into their world.....
I've totally experienced the same, quite a few of my dmt experiences have consisted of such "themes"...just reading that gives me very brief flashes back to some of my previous experiences, remembering fragments of what's happened before.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Icon]
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.....They started out the size of a plane or ship, and kept unfolding extra dimensions of itself as it approached until it was hovering very close and much larger than the factory with many shapes and angles added onto its original form. The fluidity of the shifting and rhythm of the growth was very familiar, like I've seen from DMT shapeshifters and hip hop dancers that can tut.
The way you described that, I have a nice visualization of that in my mind   ...in fact, as I was reading that I was kinda thinking about the motion/dynamic of those that can tut really well/complex.
(...and now I'm going to probably end up on a spree of watching tutting/dancing videos on youtube tonight, I really dig dance, tickles me in so many ways)
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: openmind]
#23345189 - 06/14/16 09:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I myself believe the entities seen on Dmt are real, and could prove it if I wanted to. Just be careful if you are feeling uncomfortable on trips you may be indulging too mucho, but good luck with your future trips & healing. Peace
Real in what sense? Real like as in physically real and separate from you and your mind? Or real as in they are real thoughts or manifestations of parts of your mind?
And how could you prove it?
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23345523 - 06/14/16 11:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have no first hand experience with DMT Entities but I like to keep an open mind. Fascinating stuff though, I've been reading a bit about it recently and thought this article explored it quite well.
https://thelucidplanet.com/1080-2/
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: mushpunx]
#23345552 - 06/15/16 12:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The human brain is certainly capable of creating what we perceive as completely seperate entities.
Almost every night in the form of dream characters; people in our lives..perfect strangers...talking anumals, monsters, aliens etc...
We also see these entities in full hallucinations, and people with mental illnesses
So the DMT entities.... Im open that they could be some "other" , but I also finx that a bit dubious
It's a pretty amazing thing regardless of what it is... that our brain can create a seperate conciousness
This is exactly what main steam media would preach so people do not believe in what's at hand.
Who is to say that the brain creates these things, and that these things are not real and simply normally unable to be perceived.
Neither side of this debate can prove it's point definitely.
I'm gonna side w the folks who believe in the unbelievable not the folks who believe it's all make believe
They've proven an individuals energy does have an effect. To say the least. It's proven.
Thay doesn't mean if someone was convicted of rape and murder thag everyone who eats the acid they made will wanna rape and murder people. Cause after all, the person prob wasn't thrilling about rape and murder while they were making the LSD I highly doubt.
The science of conciousness is real. It's the real science. The one they don't want u to know about
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Raven44]
#23345744 - 06/15/16 01:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think we must be careful on these occasions to give these things we see no more credence than that of an extension or inclusion of self. I have seen people go off the rails from believing they have found the one truth for all leading them to alienate and righteously preach.
These things are profound no doubt but imo the conclusions no matter what they are should be and are a very individual and personal and pertain to you alone.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: pineninja]
#23345801 - 06/15/16 02:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Too right. If it's not all in your head then where is it?
We live in this realm and no amount of speculation makes our fantastic visions real. Maybe there is a connection to something else, but it's fleeting and immemorial.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: pineninja]
#23346884 - 06/15/16 11:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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pineninja said:
I think we must be careful on these occasions to give these things we see no more credence than that of an extension or inclusion of self. I have seen people go off the rails from believing they have found the one truth for all leading them to alienate and righteously preach.
These things are profound no doubt but imo the conclusions no matter what they are should be and are a very individual and personal and pertain to you alone.
I'll reiterate that no one can prove their stance on thus topic for it too largely misunderstood by the common knowledge
It may or may not pertain to u alone.
Just cause some kid lost his shit and start believing in outlandish things...
That fact doesn't make you or thag individual right or wrong now does it.
Einstein was crazy, wasn't he.
Remain open minded I might suggest
Why do u think the government never released their findings on the studies done w psychedelics?? Lol hmmmmm. Maybe they don't want us to know how powerful our conciousness is. It's capable of anything u set ur mind to.
I believe in life after death. For those who fear death and still believe death is an end and not a beginning... I suggest u look outside the boxes more so. Quit believing what they say and throw away your television
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Northerner]
#23346900 - 06/15/16 11:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Too right. If it's not all in your head then where is it?
We live in this realm and no amount of speculation makes our fantastic visions real. Maybe there is a connection to something else, but it's fleeting and immemorial.
There is a connection. It being fleeting and immemorial is due to the fact that u gain access to thay state of conciousness via a concious shifting substance. Which wears off.
Meditation, has been documented, to lift ones conciousness to the same Heights that concious shifting substances are able to.
A buhdist once ate thousands of hits of lsd, and then said later in the day after he carried out his day as he normally would... "I can see why one would want to ingest such a thing. However, your meditations will take u higher."
I'll get the title of the book. Bear with me.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Bardy]
#23346905 - 06/15/16 11:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not on the forum of course. But yea it could be done.(Proove it that is) A lot of people don't know it but there are ways to use your get your own natural DMT to kick in , and yes seeing the spirit world while awake, but hey I know not everyone can do this though well without practice.(And this could get dangerous so if you know how be careful)This usually takes years of practice along side meditation. When my natural DMT kicks in I see way more than on bought DMT, but I love them both. I think the naturally DMT I experience is from experimenting with microdosing Amanita Muscaria. Just my thoughts. Peace
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Raven44]
#23346910 - 06/15/16 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right on Brother!(Raven44) I meant to quote these last 2 posts sorry you all, but Raven I don't have one I am way ahead of some of them. I don't watch the stuff, and only get on shroomery shortly each week. I am so busy doing outdoor projects, picking vegetables, and tending to crops,and such. Peace & Love
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23346957 - 06/15/16 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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they're the same species who are secretly plagueing our planet with political agendas and economic deceit.
apparently the galactic council (or whatever they call themselves) approved their request to invade our planet, but only on one condition: they have to do it in secret, so to test our evolution and give ourselves a chance to unite and fight back.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Northerner]
#23347267 - 06/15/16 01:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Too right. If it's not all in your head then where is it?
Everything that is real is in your head also
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23347347 - 06/15/16 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The problem I have is that, if the entire experience is in our minds, that it's some projection of our imagination, why do we have no control over the experience in the way we might if we suddenly realised that we were dreaming? We're certainly conscious throughout the experience, and aware that we are seeing something other than real life. Why then should we not be able to take charge of the hallunication and disrupt the narrative?
I mostly agree with what you said, and I am also 'on the fence' to whether it's simply manifestations of our consciousness..
But I just wanna point out that from my experience with trips, it IS possible to consciously manipulate the experience to some degree.
Not always, and with much difficulty sometimes, (I believe this could be because it's processes that happen on a way deeper level than our conscious thought that are coming to the surface here..) but it can be done.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#23348249 - 06/15/16 05:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Teasing at happenings trying to control.
Something objective to fulfil the soul.
Forgetting perhaps why they began.
Is spinning in nothing spinning at all.
Tangling the tales that comfort and sedate.
Something so human something innate.
Missing through force wider perspective.
Why do so many follow what so few create.
Reforming with a self realised lack of validity.
Understanding nothing understanding humility.
Seeing the things that don't exist.
I don't believe in objectivity.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eesma]
#23353615 - 06/17/16 04:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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DMT IS an entity - and that "entity" is God. The Nahuas called Psilocybin "God's Flesh".
DMT has a Will and an objective.
Have you tried to communicate with Them?
If you do, I would recommend that you keep in mind that They are the Spirit of DMT and are the real Flesh of God (i.e. -- the real God).
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: endogenous]
#23353642 - 06/17/16 05:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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We can't PROVE it, but if I've ever had a glimpse of what God would be, it would be on DMT. It would be me, it would be you. God is everything.
The only reality there is, is that which you create with your mind
Are we the creators of ourselves?
"It would be the same way that a magician can trick us to believe that a magic trick they perform is real until we are shown how to do the magic trick for our own self. When we know how the trick is played, we then have the power also to perform it; we are no longer the audience watching and being tricked. Using this analogy so that we can know that the nature of reality is the same way, we are in the audience of our life instead of being the magician and knowing how reality really works.
We then become to realize that all of the power comes in the knowledge of the knowing of its truth, we are infinite creators creating our reality and when we know it we then can take responsibility for our reality. We know that what we are thinking and talking about is creating reality all day long and creating our future by its momentum. By knowing that gives us so much power because we are then living a life deliberately leaving nothing to chance. Infinite creators consciously choose our creations."
Edited by Eclipse3130 (06/17/16 05:29 AM)
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23354086 - 06/17/16 09:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't believe In one singular god.
After all everyone is created equal. We are all gods capable of God like states of conciousness.
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: Raven44]
#23356805 - 06/18/16 05:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Entheogens are united with one will and one purpose.
Those who accept that They are God areTheir Children.
Even though the Children could be called "Gods", I prefer to not call Them that so that the distinction between Creator and Created stays clear.
"The real Light, which enlightens every person, was coming then into the world . They entered the world - the world which existed through Them, yet the world did not recognize Them; They came to what was Their own, yet Their own folk did not welcome Them. On those who have accepted Them, however, They have conferred the right of being children of God, that is, on those who believe in Their Name, who owe this birth of theirs to God, not to human blood, nor to any impulse of the flesh or of humans."
– St. John, 1, 9
"We are only the earthenware jars that hold this treasure, to make it clear that such an overwhelming power comes from God and not from us." -- 2Cor. 4,7 (St. Paul)
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Re: Help with Shapeshifting DMT Entities (Repeated Encounters) [Re: endogenous]
#23364855 - 06/20/16 07:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, on thay nite
I would imagine, we are capable of Creation also as we know it.
Check out the book titled "the ancient secret of the flower of life"
Let's not start worshiping entheogens now, but mearly using them to their fullest potential.
Let's worship hmmmm.... ourselves and others
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