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psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions?
    #23334317 - 06/11/16 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i searched the site but didnt find much info..
since its a wood lover is it much different growing indoors than a wood loving edible?
and does it need a casing layer? or need anything out of the ordinary to fruit?
about the only threads i found were on outdoor grows, makes me assume indoors is difficult?


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    #23334437 - 06/11/16 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Epiglottis]
    #23334487 - 06/11/16 11:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you're gonna troll them that blatantly you should at least throw them a little hint.

AFAIK indoor ps. cyans are indeed pretty difficult, but not impossible.  Definitely not what I'd be focusing on unless you have plenty of experience and you're ready for a challenge.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23334539 - 06/11/16 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Saw it done once in a mini fridge with unpasteurized leaf litter and soil as the casing.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Moldy thumb]
    #23335025 - 06/12/16 04:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I read a post from someone who managed to grow woodlovers inside and he said the mushrooms were all sterile.(no spores) If I were to try and grow woodlovers, I would at least throw some spawn in a pot filled with a mix of soil and some kind of appropriate wood. Growing them indoors will take a lot of mycological experience and a good knowledge of what they need, meaning you would need to have observed them in nature for a while to see what makes them tick.

Your best bet is to make some grain spawn/blend some wild fruits and spawn that to a good patch outside. This is what 99% of the people do and they get too many shrooms to know what to do with. Hunters can completely rely on wild fruits without ever having to do a cube grow inside.

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Epiglottis]
    #23335310 - 06/12/16 07:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

u suck at a dick, never said i searched the internet did i? no, i said i searched the site. read and understand a post instead of being so anxious for others to hear your glorious wisdom. people like u ruin discussion boards.

thanks to the rest of you, that is about what i figured


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: insaecula]
    #23335777 - 06/12/16 10:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Somebody being an asshole is no reason to break the rules and get yourself banned.  Just ignore that shit.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23335819 - 06/12/16 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah but a little search here would have given him the general knowledge that most if not all of us cannot pull off indoor fruits from woodlovers.

It IS possible but not probable and no one has been able to do it consistently.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: maddchef]
    #23335875 - 06/12/16 10:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A friend of mine here, his buddy forgot about a jar of colonized PS cyan grains in his trailer. Months later he found it and it had fruited indoors, no symbiotic relationship required with other plants, no need for other microbes to make them fruit, it was all sterile. I think cyans are really picky for other reasons like temperature fluctuation and such. I have grown them several times outdoors and unless I'm just goofing around trying things I wouldn't even attempt it inside. People like RR who have been doing this since NAM have tried with no luck.

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: liloldme]
    #23335933 - 06/12/16 10:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's not microbes or any other mycorizzial mess. Wood is difficult to digest and they simply take a long time to store enough energy to fruit.

There are other large factors but indoor cultivation isn't really worth the setup


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: maddchef]
    #23335960 - 06/12/16 11:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Idk man RR said he tried a decent indoor grows with them, let them colonize completely and they didn't give him really any kind of a harvest compared to an outdoor bed. I just did an indoor oyster grow on woodchips, less that 40 days ago now I'm seeing fruits.

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: liloldme]
    #23335970 - 06/12/16 11:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oysters are a different story, there's oysters that fucking digest plastic lol.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: maddchef]
    #23336000 - 06/12/16 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)


Edited by Snazz (06/12/16 11:25 AM)

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Snazz]
    #23336587 - 06/12/16 02:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

appreciate the input guys!
what i dont get though, is why there seems to be an attitude of " psilocbe cyan is to hard to do indoors so we dont try"? theres a 23 page thread on growing morels but never heard of a successful grow. shouldnt the fact their difficult to grow be the challenge? i mean 'cmon, cubes almost grow themselves so then some ppl move to edibles for more of a challenge, so after that what challenge is next?  why dont we try and figure it out? otherwise some asshole with less than ten posts who doesnt have enough sence to realize he cant grow ps cyan might attempt and succeed, wouldnt that be the shits?
so..
1. we need wood
2. we need time
3.we do need a casing layer?
4.they need cooler temps to fruit, right?
what else?


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: insaecula]
    #23336750 - 06/12/16 03:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There are plenty of pages.

Cyans require longer time, high lignin and cellulose, lower temps WITH higher rh (which is extremely difficult to accomplish since cold air doesn't hold moisture well) and who knows what else.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: maddchef]
    #23336765 - 06/12/16 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can't see us getting to a point where doing it will be worth the time in an indoor scenario anytime soon.  When you have to choose between a bunch of fruits for very little effort or a couple fruits for a ton of effort, that can definitely affect the speed at which people attempt to figure it out.  Not everybody has the free time to invest in a lot of failing.


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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: maddchef]
    #23336776 - 06/12/16 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oysters are a different story, there's oysters that fucking digest plastic lol.



so awesome... ahahaha

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23338044 - 06/12/16 11:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I can't see us getting to a point where doing it will be worth the time in an indoor scenario anytime soon.  When you have to choose between a bunch of fruits for very little effort or a couple fruits for a ton of effort, that can definitely affect the speed at which people attempt to figure it out.  Not everybody has the free time to invest in a lot of failing.




:whathesaid: to a T.

Why figure out something you know will perform badly when you can throw a disgustingly contaminated LC outside and get fruits gregariously?

I wish you luck if you mean to try this but chances are you will just disappear, never to be seen again. Just like the professional who was so adamant that his tub wasn't bacterial as fuck or like those who swear their impossible "experiment" works and promises to post back again once he has pics.

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Re: psilocybe cyanes questions, suggestions? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23338062 - 06/12/16 11:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Who chose the names for Pan Cyans and Ps. Cyans? Makes it really confusing.


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    #23338065 - 06/12/16 11:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug:

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