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gornyhuy
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Lucis]
#23339473 - 06/13/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hygrocybe said: Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).
I believe L-arginine can be found in watermelon too, well the citrulline in it is converted into L-Arginine in your body, but yeah add watermelon to the list above.
You can buy some cubed watermelon, and snack on that throughout your trip. Fruit is good because it's not hard on your stomach when you're dosed.
added in list above.
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Hanz
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
#23339533 - 06/13/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but.. what exactly are the symptoms of vasoconstriction?
A friend of mine gets white bloodless fingers when on stims. Is that vasoconstriction?
Plz provide me with a list of symptoms of what exactly it is we are talking about here. You all seem to agree on what it is, but I feel I'm in the dark
Which feelings make you say you are having a "vasoconstriction" episode? Be as complete as you can, plz.
What body parts can be involved, are the extremities the only ones?
What about internal organs, like the heart, maybe?
Can it be objectively observed by outsiders, like the white fingers above, or like a shrunk dick on xtc? The eyes, the facial color?
How long does it last, only the come up, or a whole trip?
Do warm clothes, sunshine, a hot bath, or a well heated room help at all?
What class or classes of drugs can typically cause vasoconstriction?
How dangerous is it in general, and when does the risk become too high?
Ouch, that's a lot of questions. I hope each one can be covered by at least one of you.
I'll be in your debt. Thanx a lot.
Love, Hanz.
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gornyhuy
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hanz]
#23339937 - 06/13/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hanz said: Sorry if this is a dumb question, but.. what exactly are the symptoms of vasoconstriction?
Google is your friend: https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Vasoconstriction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasoconstriction etc - there are several threads here and on other forums as well as general medical articles all over the web.
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A friend of mine gets white bloodless fingers when on stims. Is that vasoconstriction?
Most likely. Stims are generally considered the worst about causing constriction and if you inject meth badly or similar you can actually cause tissue death from lack of blood flow.
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Plz provide me with a list of symptoms of what exactly it is we are talking about here. You all seem to agree on what it is, but I feel I'm in the dark
For psychedelics, its usually pretty mild, but cold or numb extremities - fingertips, toes, shrunken scared turtle dick generally feeling cold and shivery all the way up to much more painful symptoms.
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How long does it last, only the come up, or a whole trip?
Depends on substance, dosage, and person.
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Do warm clothes, sunshine, a hot bath, or a well heated room help at all?
They do for me - anything that will cause vasodilation.
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What class or classes of drugs can typically cause vasoconstriction?
Stims and some psychedelics, especially LSA.
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How dangerous is it in general, and when does the risk become too high?
From psyches I don't think it is dangerous at all. For stims, you'll have to do your research.
There is my weak attempt at answering you!
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trvptamine
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
#23339959 - 06/13/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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On the nbome compounds and other phenythylamines and also LSA I get vasoconstriction. Other psychedelics not so much
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Hygrocybe
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: trvptamine]
#23340762 - 06/13/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quercetin is another supplement that causes vasodilation, it has the advantage of having a long half-life.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hanz]
#23341512 - 06/13/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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So vasoconstriction is contriction of the blood vessels.
I get shurnk junk in my pants, very awkard to have.
I do believe warm baths help counteract the effects, as well as the drugs mentioned.
Other things i get is a lethargy, slowness, "tight" feeling in my muscles and sometimes it seems i can fel the tightness in my veins. Like being really tense all over your body.
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gornyhuy
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23342461 - 06/14/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Other things i get is a lethargy, slowness, "tight" feeling in my muscles and sometimes it seems i can fel the tightness in my veins. Like being really tense all over your body.
Interesting - me too - I wonder how much of that is just muscle clenching/lethargy versus vasoconstriction versus just increased awareness/sensitivity to muscle tension sensations? Stretching feels SO damn good while tripping, but that could just be heightened tactile senses.
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gornyhuy
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hygrocybe]
#23342484 - 06/14/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hygrocybe said: Quercetin is another supplement that causes vasodilation, it has the advantage of having a long half-life.
Damn, that stuff sounds amazing! I've never heard of it.
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fathersshout
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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#28646845 - 02/04/24 09:14 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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Hi I like the idea of using Viagra if it works. How did you know to use it? Or did you just figure it out by yourself because I am thinking of talking to my doctor about it.
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