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Offlinegrowmore
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NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    #2331184 - 02/13/04 03:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I have a problem with a heroin adiction and am looking for some help I cant go to a local clinic cuz the wife will find out and thats not good at all,if you have a wife youll understand . What im looking for is a link that I can get me some pharmesuticals, perferibly from some place in mexico or overseas I use to have a site that I went to but its no longer ther and that has put me back to doing the monster of a drug called heroin . So if any one can help me out with advice or a link to get some shit tom help me I love you for ever cuz youll never know how much this drug tears apart you life . :frown:
    Thanks for the help in advanced  :smile:


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2331251 - 02/13/04 04:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You could try Ibogane(spelling). It's this one psycadelic that works really well for heroin addiction. If your close to Vancouver BC you could find Marc Emery's Ibogane clinic. Why can't you go to a clinic without your wife knowing. If it comes down to you not being able to quit wiht other drugs or anything don't worry about your wife. Just go to a clinic and she should understand. It's either that or you getitng deeper in shit.


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: barfightlard]
    #2331333 - 02/13/04 04:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

My wife's ex was bad into it and she broke up with him for it . And if she finds out Iv been doing it im a dead man no j/k . Ill look in to what you recomend and no i dont live near vancouver . thanks for the help any more help would be graet frome any one please .


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2336952 - 02/15/04 12:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

BUMP ME UP SCOTTY


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2337076 - 02/15/04 01:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Don't give up looking. Keep bumping if you have to. My advice is get help fast. Your wife might find out you're using herion, thats alot worse than getting caught looking for help. Bellyard said it best:It's either that or you getitng deeper in shit.


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: mabus]
    #2337099 - 02/15/04 01:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ya I know it's hard to find help with out anyone finding out,thats Y I come hear for help cuz I dont know or see any one and every one hear is willing to help someone in need , thats what I love about this place .

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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2337278 - 02/15/04 02:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Junk is junk, I don't think a prescription would really help you. Besides that, we can't give suppliers for pharmaceuticals in public on these boards.

You need to quit cold turkey. That is the ONLY way to quit opiates. It will be hard as hell, but it is necessary. Realize what you are doing to your family and your own body and think deeply. I don't mean to come off harsh at all, but in my experience this is the only way quitting works. You may occasionally slip up and indulge again, but even if it seems impossible now, you can get yourself under control to not become addicted again.

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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Organic]
    #2337442 - 02/15/04 03:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks and your not harsh at all if any thing thats what i need to help me .


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2339799 - 02/16/04 03:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You should definately try cold turkey. I do know how impossible that sounds to a junkie, but you have to do it. Not next time, THIS time. Immediately. Burn your suppliers number so you CAN'T get it. Poppies don't communicate on our level. They will continue to have their effects whether you want to stop or not. Most junkies I know are afraid of quiting. Afraid of the withdrawal. Afraid of pain and suffering. If you can accept the pain, it will, like the needle, dose you with determination. It gets in your bloodstream, strenghthens your muscles and triggers your brain to open up to the flow of your insticnt. And from this state, joy is not far off.

There is no quick fix. Pun very much intended.

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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2344604 - 02/17/04 07:38 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Been there...

Married with 2 kids and a gov't job and got into skag... Felt I couldn't just jump off (for similar reasons as yourself), had used up all my 'social credit' and time available from work... eventually went on methadone as I felt it was the only alternative.

If you go that road, my best advice is to go the smallest dose that will actually hold you without you going crazy and try to start reducing after 2 weeks or so (Done's a lot slower to come off than hammer).

I jumped from 50mg as I couldn't deal with the total lack of freedom on the program. It's a VERY nasty thing to come off, so if you do it, do it short-term and keep the dose as low as you possibly can.

A better option might be to talk with your G.P. and get a very large bottle of valium... Let your wife think you've caught influenza (withdrawal + valium looks and feels pretty much the same anyway) and stay in bed for 5 days.

Just know that it's possible to get through. I came clean with my wife (I had to), proceeded to fuck up a few times again and was lucky enough to get free eventually (I'm still married).

My best advice is this... Whether you withdraw or whether you choose another treatment, you MUST cut-off ALL your using accquaintences. If you think this is 'overkill' YOU WILL FAIL!!!

PS Naltrexone after you have detoxed might be an option too... (but you still gotta make new friends).

Good luck mate.


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2349164 - 02/18/04 10:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

cold turkey is not the only way:
a hindu came up to a guru and told him of problems with an opium habit...
the sage told him to take this piece of chalk, and every day white the sacred seed syllable "om" onto a chalkboard & then weigh out his daily dose of opium...
every day, the weight of the chalk was less (due the the writing) and when the chalk was all used up, the opium addiction was gone as well...
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a possible way is to switch to a less "pure" narcotic (i.e. poppy-pod tea?) and find your "sweet spot" & every day make a slightly weaker tea...
& some people find that smoking ganja will allow them to regard the uncomfortableness that results from opiate withdrawal to be (temporarily) replaced with a THC "buzz"...


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2351526 - 02/18/04 07:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It breaks my heart to hear of people with such addictions to drugs.  My heart goes out to you and I hope you can kick this horrible habit.  I don't know of any sites that you could go to.

How long have you been married for?
How strong is your relationship?

I don't know about anyone else here, but I believe in the truth.  Lying only makes things worse.  If you are honest, it shows that you respect the person you are being honest with.

Maybe your wife's ex broke alot of promises and lost her trust and she just didn't want to put up with it anymore.  I think that rehab is the best thing for you if you don't feel you can control it on your own.  Rehab is there to help.  Secrets between loved ones, such as this, can only cause problems in the future.

I wish you well and my heart goes out to you. :heartpump:


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2352136 - 02/18/04 10:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hm, tricky situation you have yourself in growmore....

Personally, i think your biggest problem (and fear also) is that the wife is in the clouds about your habit.
#1. It's an expensive habit and you probably need to sneek around your wife to get your dope-money..
#2. It's clear that your wife does not want to be with a man who has a dope-habit, so you hide it.

Personally, I would attempt to continue hiding the habit until you are somehow completely clean and clean for a mininum of several months,, and then tell her.. (you're going to Have to tell her about it, you cannot keep a heroin addiction a secret forever)
----Don't tell her now when your all pathetic and strung out, cause you're going to look 100X's worse than if you told her about it after cleaning yourself up a bit. It sounds like she wouldn't even want to go down another road of trying to clean up some other guy from junk (and you shouldn't blame her, because it's a nightmare to lay that sh*t onto someone who cares about you).

If you want to hold onto the wife, you sir, are going to have to start doing A LOT of things differently

I would also try to stray away from the methadone-option, your wife probably doesn't want a methadone junky just as much as she doesn't want a heroin junky in her life.

Another tempting option is to just get a bunch of opiate-pills online eh? yummy eh? hehe, sorry, i wouldn't recommend that either, believe it dude, you gotta kick mayn, you're obviously headed for trouble ifya dont..

Good luck bro,
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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2356098 - 02/19/04 07:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I would sugest trying Suboxone if you don't want to quit cold turkey.
As a herion addict I can understand the difficulty of cold turkey.
Suboxone wasn't around when I was getting of dope so I tried methadone.
Methadone sucks. Period.

Check out the link below and find a doctor in your area that does this treatment. I'm a graduate student in the mental health field and have seen amazing results with this drug. Most of the patients only stay on it for a short time before they taper off and are clean. I saw a person recently get clean from a IV oxy habit in 3 weeks.
He was slamming 300mg. a day.
http://www.suboxone.com/Suboxone/home.htm


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: chinacat72]
    #2358464 - 02/20/04 10:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Suboxone




yeah i think i've heard of that. an old pal told me he was on that it was some 'miracle'-drug.
-he's still a junky i would think....

If i had to go through it all again, i'd do everything i could to get Ibogaine treatment.


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2359885 - 02/20/04 04:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

growmore,
You obviously want to quit, if you didn't, you wouldnt be posting here. In which case, help yourself out and do it cold turkey, If keep lots of tylenol on hand (its safer than other pain relivers so you wont have as much of a chance of taking too much) and if it gets too bad, tell your wife you need to go on vacation for a little bit and go to a clinic somewhere else... Thing I find the most is, that even though your trying to hide things from the people you love, most of the time they find out, and if they really love you they are gonna help you through it...


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2367572 - 02/22/04 01:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

growmore, i feel for you man. I battled the needle/oxycontin addiction for about 3 years. Luckily, I was able to quit cold turkey, but most people can't. I suggest getting your hands on some benzodiazapenes and quitting cold turkey with them, OR picking up some buprenorphine and doing maintenance to tapering therapy. If you could tell me how much per day you are using, whether it's powder or tar, and if you are smoking/snorting/shooting I can try and tell you what you should be expecting in terms of w/d symptoms from cold turkey, cold turkey w/benzos, and non-cold turkey w/buprenorphine.

A quick search on www.google.com with the word "drug buyers" should turn up a website for you where people discuss/review their experiences with online pharmaceutical suppliers. Luckily for you, buprenorphine and benzodiazapenes are two of the easiest pharmaceuticals to purchase online.

Please keep us updated and don't lose hope!


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Phoshaman]
    #2368133 - 02/22/04 03:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I love you guys so much for wanting to help out someone you dont even know and i thank every one of you for all the help your giving me . Im going to start today on quieting I now have some vicoden and flexerul That should help with the pain , that is all im really woryed about cuz it hurts so much youll never know unless your in my shoes . Ill keep you posted on how im doing and all that shit , any more help that you guys can give me ill be thank full for .


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: growmore]
    #2369269 - 02/22/04 09:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Please keep checking in and letting us know how you're doing. I had tremendous support by many people when I was quitting dope and I know I couldn't have done it without them.


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Re: NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Phoshaman]
    #2375899 - 02/25/04 01:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well I have started to cut down on the dope and prety soon I am just going to ween my self off of it,its not going to be eazy , but Im a man and im shur I can handl it . So Ill keep you guys up dated on how it goes . O Ya Im doing about two blows a day insted of three or four . Hopefully I can make it down to one then a half of one and then hopefully none at all . I think this will be the best way of doing it .And thanks for all the support guys I love you all .

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