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Tincup
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NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend
#23292117 - 05/31/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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From the "Batch" on the scale and blue desk - these look a lot to me like Pans and I found them growing in the yard, well manacured and fertilized NJ lawn, good shade and this past week as been humid, hot and hazy.
They bruise bluish brown upon touch. Stems are about 3" on avg. Small slender stems leading to the little caps that are brownish, blue in nature.
I ate one or two of these caps last year, but not merely enough I think and they were not dried out.
Very new to procurring these on my own so first time tips and pointers, appreciate. I am a newb to picking.
FOR THE other "BATCH" - pics of this sample are the ones on the paper towel and growing in the woods as pictured.
Habitat: NJ - this week, May 2016, weather has been hot and humid, found these in hardwood forest well removed from man (about 2 miles into preserved Watershed land)
Gills: Tan
Stem: They appear hollow/fibrus. When I snap it I can't see a clear vacancy on the inside but the texture is week and fibrous. Avg is about 3inches
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color: Very important!
Bruising: Bruises from white to beige/tan
Other information: Growing in area of rotting hardwoods and conifers.
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: Tincup]
#23292184 - 05/31/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: Tincup]
#23294712 - 06/01/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Panaeolina foenisecii for the first. Second could be an Agrocybe sp., but not sure. Spore print would help.
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: Anglerfish]
#23295205 - 06/01/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree that the first one is Mower's Mushroom (panaeolina foenisecii). I've got about 100 of them in my back yard right now too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolina_foenisecii
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: dhype773]
#23295297 - 06/01/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would just like to add for the sake of harm reduction, while doing so with panaeolina (or any of the panaeolus/copelandia/psilocybe species) MIGHT not be as much of a potentially dangerous decision.. One should absolutely NEVER consume a mushroom that you are not 100% sure of the identification of. It simply is not worth the risks. Please always ask for help with identification here, as everyone is genuinely more than happy to assist, at least until you become more experienced with finding particular species that interest you.
Always better to be safe than sorry
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: 1943]
#23295454 - 06/01/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Guys thanks, it looks then like batch 1 the Pan F.'s are no good 
Its been about 48 hours, can I still pull a print from Batch2? I'll give it a try and post if it comes out.
Sincere thanks for the replies, especially since I'm a noob and in reading the rules I'm sure I made some rookie fow pas....
Any tips on determining the difference between Pan Cinctulu and Pan F.? My yard is heavily fertilized and in rural suburban NJ. I have found plethoras of caps at my house and my brothers (his is within 1 mile of horse farms and surrounded by old hardwood forests). I think I have good grounds to hunt?
Really looking forward to learning on this site and I promise more detailed posts next time.
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: Tincup]
#23295484 - 06/01/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tincup said: Guys thanks, it looks then like batch 1 the Pan F.'s are no good 
Its been about 48 hours, can I still pull a print from Batch2? I'll give it a try and post if it comes out.
Sincere thanks for the replies, especially since I'm a noob and in reading the rules I'm sure I made some rookie fow pas....
Any tips on determining the difference between Pan Cinctulu and Pan F.? My yard is heavily fertilized and in rural suburban NJ. I have found plethoras of caps at my house and my brothers (his is within 1 mile of horse farms and surrounded by old hardwood forests). I think I have good grounds to hunt?
Really looking forward to learning on this site and I promise more detailed posts next time.
Caps that are campanulate, Adnate hymenium, and a black spore print would all point toward cinctulus. Although cinctulus can have a convex cap and adnex hymenium as well
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Re: NJ ID Help Please with Pics from Memorial Day Weekend [Re: Tincup]
#23295492 - 06/01/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tincup said: Any tips on determining the difference between Pan Cinctulu and Pan F.?
Panaeolina foenisecii has warty spores, and a spore print looks a bit brown if you smudge it, more than Panaeolus cinctulus. Some specimens of P. cinctulus, especially those growing directly from manure, can be a lot beefier and even with unambiguous blueing.
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