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Acacia identification
    #2329517 - 02/13/04 05:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, could you please help me identify this acacia I found today.
There are alot of them, these ones were growing around this river, at a park in Australia melbourne, but I've also seen similiar ones other places, ones that had whiter balls.

All three of us agreed that the stick smells like shaved ham :P





Would anyone know a site that could also helpe me identify?, I've checked out erowid...

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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2329931 - 02/13/04 11:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

are you sure it isn't an eucalyptus?
they produce those puffy flowers i guess, don't they?
anyways, acaciae and mimosoidae are most interesting plants IMO, be ready for many trips to the library (nothing better than a book on the local plants).
the acacia genus is sooo large! in australia you sure have of the most interesting ones...


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2330639 - 02/13/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

don't all acacia's have Bipinnate compound leaves?


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: neuro]
    #2331661 - 02/13/04 06:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there are exceptions!
acacia maidenii is a good example! but they always or mostly leave a hint such as maidenii's capitular flowers (i don't know if this is the correct botanical term, can't recall the proper term), so typical of the acacia/mimosoidae plants (mimosa hostilis, for example or piptadenias).
the flowers are also not always round... specially for the australian ones!


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2332219 - 02/13/04 10:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

do you think I should cook these branches up ? lol make soem ayahuasca >:D


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2334615 - 02/14/04 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LOL...
i wouldn't mess around mixing caapi/rue with unidentified plants! don't forget to look up how much of what it contains!
you be careful friend! don't save your eyes on the reading...
besides that.. people think they've seen everything after trying mescaline, *cid, shrooms and opiates but when they come down to aya/dimitri they must kneel to its unexpected strength and great power, like they say.
i've never tried aya so far, despite it's perfecly legal where i live.


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2335459 - 02/14/04 09:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hehe yeah, I'm aware of the dangers, including poison which some plants could contain. I just want to identify it, because it compeltely looks like an acacia.
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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2335461 - 02/14/04 09:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and also, I haven't seen eucalpytus which produces puffy flowers before :blush:


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2336188 - 02/15/04 03:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how would you describe eucalyptus flowers then?


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2336595 - 02/15/04 07:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think I can, unless youre talking about some uncommon species I'm unwaware of, but other than that they don't have flowers.


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2336751 - 02/15/04 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

check this out. This is a young Acacia maidenii specimen.

http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=7143

it's got th e bipinnate leaves but only in the older growth of the specimen. More mature speciments the leaves are absent unless they managed to not get shaded by the newer growth. Quite interesting..


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2337483 - 02/15/04 03:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Merkaba said:
I don't think I can, unless youre talking about some uncommon species I'm unwaware of, but other than that they don't have flowers.




'just because you close your eyes the world doesn't ceases to exist'!
i am not talking about any uncommon species, i'm talking about the most common of them, they took over the native plants where i live and also is very used for paper making et cetera, anyways, they're fanerogamous and they DO have flowers and produce some tiny nutlike things, haven't you ever seen?


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: neuro]
    #2337522 - 02/15/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how interesting neuro!
i have never seen such thing happen!
cotyledons, bipinnate leaves and now those thin blades, what else is to come next? =)
how INTERESTING!

merkaba: also, the disposal of the flowers in the cluster isn't any acacioide/mimosoideous.


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2339662 - 02/16/04 02:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think I've seen that pic before Neuro, thanks for that. that looks so weird, like some hybrid or something hehe.
felixhigh I don't believe I have see those you are refering to, hmmm. There are alot of trees around Melbourne and they all look like this
http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/schoepke/euc_sp_2.jpg

Hmmm I was just looking at some eucalyptus, as well as some flowering ones. I've seen them before. I don't think I know my trees well enough hehe. I think im just not aware of the different species eucalyptee can be.

http://www.museums.org.za/bio/images/enb4/enb04786m.jpg

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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2339772 - 02/16/04 03:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Merkaba said:
I think I've seen that pic before Neuro, thanks for that. that looks so weird, like some hybrid or something hehe.
felixhigh I don't believe I have see those you are refering to, hmmm. There are alot of trees around Melbourne and they all look like this
http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/schoepke/euc_sp_2.jpg

Hmmm I was just looking at some eucalyptus, as well as some flowering ones. I've seen them before. I don't think I know my trees well enough hehe. I think im just not aware of the different species eucalyptee can be.

http://www.museums.org.za/bio/images/enb4/enb04786m.jpg

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i don't think this last one is a typical eucalyptus but the first tall one is the one i'm referring to. the ones with a thick bark too.
anyways, don't you think it's a little pedantic to give opinions into subjects you admit not knowing too much (your local trees)?
i know how it is to want to have a plant but give it some time...
you'll find them soon, i'm sure.


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2344620 - 02/17/04 07:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea you're right, but it's just that I came accross it, and as I have a few Australian 'natural plants' books, I had a little idea on what some of the acacias looked like. and I was interested what kind it could be


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2344663 - 02/17/04 08:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

heh, i didn't mean to be offensive, just educative. =)
appologies if i sounded a little rough or something.
anyways, it happens this way, you pass by the plant and she calls your attention by whatever reason it is (shapes, colors, smell...).
when you hit the acacias you'll probably not be looking for them and think: 'they were here all the time'. :wink:


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2352898 - 02/19/04 02:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sweet as dude,
hehehe you're right about that last line :laugh:


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: Merkin]
    #2353896 - 02/19/04 09:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

heh, have you finally found them? =)
share some pics please!


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Re: Acacia identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2361002 - 02/20/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Actually I found this acacia, on the very end of the park, close to the road. The flowers were little rods, very bright yellow, almost white. I need to find out about it.
on the ethnobotany forum, rkundalini said
"The fact that the flowers are little balls instead of little rods means it is not one of the ones previously reported to contain interesting things .. but that doesn't necessarily rule it out as interesting." reffering to the pics I posted on this thread.

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