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Hillary or Trump? (no stal)
    #23294947 - 06/01/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

If you had to choose between the two:




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For the next president of the USA
You may choose only one


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23294950 - 06/01/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23294996 - 06/01/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn't vote for Hillary unless the other candidate was Cenk Uyger
With his vice president, black person of unintelligable gender

This charloton is the biggest liberal, and his news show is named after the people who perpetrated the Arminian genocide
Which he denies.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23295012 - 06/01/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

What does stal mean?

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante] * 5
    #23295073 - 06/01/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Any American who votes for Hillary has no one to blame for their shitty lives other than themselves. Voting for Hillary is essentially a form of self-harming. Hillary supporters really are doing themselves in.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Webster10] * 5
    #23295082 - 06/01/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Any American who votes for Hillary has no one to blame for their shitty lives other than themselves. Voting for Hillary is essentially a form of self-harming. Hillary supporters really are doing themselves in.



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Citizen X] * 7
    #23295097 - 06/01/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hillary supporters are beyond brain-washed by the media. Hillary supporters are completely uninformed about politics. If they followed the news and actually got educated about Hillary, they wouldn't vote for her. Only the elite and top 1% want Hillary to win. They want Hillary to continue the corporatist agenda that has been the norm for decades. The elites have tricked such a massive portion of the American electorate into believing their corporate press and voting for Hillary just to "stop a bigot." Hillary is the candidate of the top 1%, Trump is the candidate of the people. Anyone who votes for Hillary is actively harming the integrity of America.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23295111 - 06/01/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I will never vote for a female president. So Trump. I think Trump can really do some good

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: UncleCid] * 2
    #23295117 - 06/01/16 06:40 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

WEBSTER SAID

Hillary supporters are beyond brain-washed by the media. Hillary supporters are completely uninformed about politics. If they followed the news..

Which is it? Brainwashed by the news or do they need to follow the news?  :muahaha:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Citizen X]
    #23295224 - 06/01/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

trump has a really great tax plan
but he has no connections to any important or powerful figures
so he's essentially running for the head of state like a mayor would lol
they said he'd lose 25 trillion in the first year alone
there would have to be massive lay offs
and then he's going to tell other people to bring their business back
how is he going to do that
are we all of a sudden going to stop paying the state for roads and schools?

Edited by Konyap (06/01/16 07:32 AM)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap]
    #23295230 - 06/01/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

the thing about bernie is he understands the 1% has more money then they can spend
and hilary just doesn't give a shit about people with uhm no connections what so ever
so she would inflate the dollar and squeeze the middle class for more money
at least with bernie we wouldn't have to throw thousands at healthcare

Edited by Konyap (06/01/16 07:34 AM)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #23295232 - 06/01/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I mean at this point I'd vote for walter white

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Webster10]
    #23295259 - 06/01/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Hillary supporters are beyond brain-washed by the media. Hillary supporters are completely uninformed about politics. If they followed the news and actually got educated about Hillary, they wouldn't vote for her. Only the elite and top 1% want Hillary to win. They want Hillary to continue the corporatist agenda that has been the norm for decades. The elites have tricked such a massive portion of the American electorate into believing their corporate press and voting for Hillary just to "stop a bigot." Hillary is the candidate of the top 1%, Trump is the candidate of the people. Anyone who votes for Hillary is actively harming the integrity of America.




Trump and hillary are opposite sides of the same coin and trump is hillary 100x. :shrug:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23295281 - 06/01/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Deez Nuts 2016


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ipomea] * 13
    #23295285 - 06/01/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23295294 - 06/01/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I voted STAL.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap]
    #23295316 - 06/01/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
trump has a really great tax plan
but he has no connections to any important or powerful figures
so he's essentially running for the head of state like a mayor would lol
they said he'd lose 25 trillion in the first year alone
there would have to be massive lay offs
and then he's going to tell other people to bring their business back
how is he going to do that
are we all of a sudden going to stop paying the state for roads and schools?




"lose 25 trillion in the first year"

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Webster10] * 4
    #23295346 - 06/01/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Webster10 said:
Any American who votes for Hillary has no one to blame for their shitty lives other than themselves. Voting for Hillary is essentially a form of self-harming. Hillary supporters really are doing themselves in.




Yes America vote for Trump. Make a fucking socipath the head of the worlds most powerful military and give him the codes to launch the nukes so that when he gets pissed off being thwarted by the people he considers beneath him he gets all :triggered: the fuck out.
Yeah. Thanks America. Just what the world needs.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman]
    #23295349 - 06/01/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

well the gov't spends 15 trillion a year
and the economy makes 15 trillion a year so...
maybe it was in reference to china manufacturing

Edited by Konyap (06/01/16 08:34 AM)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23295367 - 06/01/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You people are fucking nuts...

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23295635 - 06/01/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

:no:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: UncleCid] * 2
    #23295645 - 06/01/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I will never vote for a female president. So Trump. I think Trump can really do some good




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: sanchothestoner] * 1
    #23295658 - 06/01/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

trump 2k16.

fuck killary.  may she rot in jail


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23295674 - 06/01/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Trump comes off as a loudmouthed buffoon like Rob Ford and I know very little about Hillary Clinton outside of the time her husband was president. I have no preference of one over the other really, but I have a feeling that a Trump presidency would be more memorable. Hillary has kind of a bland vibe in my mind like Al Gore or Obama. With her email scandal thing I'm just bored to tears.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: psi] * 4
    #23295801 - 06/01/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm telling you guys, Hillary is a truly evil psychopath. The elite are already making plans for all the different wars and false flag operations that she will authorize. A lot of good people will die under her. Trump just wants to focus on internal issues and to normalize relations with the international community, not start WW3.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: chopstick]
    #23295866 - 06/01/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

as fucked up as it sounds it's true most racist countries stick to their own borders
when people try to spread democracy or freedom or whatever that's when you get dog shit thrown in there

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap] * 3
    #23295870 - 06/01/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

And while we lay people are here chilling on the fucking shroomery, the billionaires here in the US are building massive underground bunkers and preparing for a potential post-nuclear holocaust nation, bunkers which will be used only for them and no-one else. Meanwhile, the US public lives in absolute ignorance of the truth which is that we are closer to nuclear war now than since the Cuban missile crisis. Electing Hillary will make nuclear war even more likely. Do you guys want to be vaporized into a fine mist along with all your friends and family? No? Fine, then don't vote for Hillary Clinton.

Thousands of NATO & US troops are being built up right on Russia's borders, along with armor and artillery. This is a huge provocation.

Dozens of anti-ballistic missile bases, which is a serious threat to Russia's internal security, are being built directly on Russia's borders, which ofcourse is a massive escalation and provocation on the behalf of arrogant western leaders, and moronic brainwashed populaces who believe in an imaginary 'russian threat', are now firmly in the crosshairs of advanced Russian nukes, as Russia is forced to take defensive measures.

And now the American political and military leadership is being filled with moronic rambling fools who have apparently forgotten entirely the concept of "Mutually Assured Destruction," as they are so blinded by their own imperial arrogance and hubris that they are honestly starting to believe that they could win a nuclear war.

Everything Russia does to counter the blatant hostile military build-up on their *own fucking borders* is portrayed in the mass media as "Russian Aggression."

We are living in incredibly dangerous times. Humanity's fate and future hangs in the balance.

May cooler heads prevail. It's not looking good though with the current crop of Dipshits running things in the USA. But if Hillary is elected, it will get a lot worse. And as usual, if a major war breaks out, it's the mainstream populace that will suffer the millions of deaths. The oligarchs and the Elite who benefit from such a war, will stay safe, nice and snug, in their trillion-dollar underground bunkers while they laugh as the rest of us slaughter one another for THEIR benefit.

This nation needs to wake up, and it needs to wake up to what is really happening in the world, REAL fucking quick. We will all need to come together against Hillary and the Oligarchs who have backed her. It's the only way towards a better future.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: chopstick]
    #23295928 - 06/01/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I finally met some Hillary Clinton supporters IRL..
I asked them in the saddest, most disgusted way: "...why?"

Literally the only reason they gave is that they hate Donald Trump.
"He's a BIGOT" "He's got no policies!"

I proceeded to explain that he is, in fact, NOT a "bigot", and that he does in fact have policies.

It turned into a one sided conversation about democratic socialism. Lol go figure.

Does nobody remember the Watergate scandal? The event that we lost a president over? She. Was. There. Hillary Clinton was involved in Watergate.
If you're gonna ignore all the capital crime she's committed in THIS decade, at least remember the Watergate scandal.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23295979 - 06/01/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Webster10 said:
Any American who votes for Hillary has no one to blame for their shitty lives other than themselves. Voting for Hillary is essentially a form of self-harming. Hillary supporters really are doing themselves in.




Yes America vote for Trump. Make a fucking socipath the head of the worlds most powerful military and give him the codes to launch the nukes so that when he gets pissed off being thwarted by the people he considers beneath him he gets all :triggered: the fuck out.
Yeah. Thanks America. Just what the world needs.




Reading that link, a large number of them apply to Hillary as well.
Hillary v. Trump is not really that much of a choice in that regard. :shrug:

Did not vote in the poll due to lack of meaningful choice -- STAL would have been a better candidate than either of them.
However, as a Canadian it is not my choice to make anyway.  My concern is simply that if the Clinton camp manages to take the democratic primary nomination that millions of Americans won't show up to vote for the same reason. :cookiemonster:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23295989 - 06/01/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm legit surprised that Hillary edges out the Donald for how many Trump supporters I've seen around here

But where's Bernie?? :crankey:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23295993 - 06/01/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

fuck bernie.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bigfeely123] * 3
    #23296001 - 06/01/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

No u


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23296007 - 06/01/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

butthurt much?

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #23296017 - 06/01/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Trump for the lulz.

Plus I'll take arrogance over sociopathy any day.

Hillary is Darth Sidious. Which would make Donald Darth Vader I suppose; but let's not get it twisted the whole government is the Sith, let's be honest, the Jedi have been all but vanquished and those remaining are in hiding for fear of improvement or death.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23296019 - 06/01/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I mean really do you want this chick for president?



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 1
    #23296037 - 06/01/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Better her than a radioactive potato.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23296067 - 06/01/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

If you say so... I'm going to have to politely disagree though. :shrug:

Tbh they both suck pretty bad though. But is it really a surprise? The government has been fucked for nearly a century now.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: The5thBeatle] * 2
    #23296428 - 06/01/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I finally met some Hillary Clinton supporters IRL..
I asked them in the saddest, most disgusted way: "...why?"

Literally the only reason they gave is that they hate Donald Trump.
"He's a BIGOT" "He's got no policies!"

I proceeded to explain that he is, in fact, NOT a "bigot", and that he does in fact have policies.

It turned into a one sided conversation about democratic socialism. Lol go figure.

Does nobody remember the Watergate scandal? The event that we lost a president over? She. Was. There. Hillary Clinton was involved in Watergate.
If you're gonna ignore all the capital crime she's committed in THIS decade, at least remember the Watergate scandal.



Ummm watergate was about Nixon cheating....Nixon is a Republican, Hillary is not....fill in the blanks.

These people who say they will pick Trump over Hillary because they think Hillary will send us to war fucking crack me up. Trump has ZERO ability to deal with anybody that disagrees with him and usually responds by trying to insult them...and usually, in an uneducated manner....like "you're a stupidhead". Ummm....yeah...that will go over great in world politics. Trump is a draft dodging crook and a pathological liar who was born with millions and used it to rape innocent hard working Americans by filing bankruptcy on a regular basis and failing to pay the contractors who worked for him.
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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23296534 - 06/01/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That picture is awful.
I voted trump here but i frequently waver on it.
Both are equally awful, for completely different reasons.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ModestMouse] * 4
    #23296619 - 06/01/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23296655 - 06/01/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

STAL I'm not voting for either, Hillary will be elected either way.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23296695 - 06/01/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
trump has a really great tax plan
but he has no connections to any important or powerful figures
so he's essentially running for the head of state like a mayor would lol
they said he'd lose 25 trillion in the first year alone
there would have to be massive lay offs
and then he's going to tell other people to bring their business back
how is he going to do that
are we all of a sudden going to stop paying the state for roads and schools?



Trump is a billionaire, who has talked to powerful people. I don't know why you would think he hasn't.

Lower taxes make people want to come. When you are making a lot those taxes are important. In those first years when you aren't profiting, they are important.

Bernie didn't contribute to society, and I'm happy that cunt, representing the lazy and pathetic, is gone. I'd spot on him. Trump has a personality, but he works. We didn't elect Romny, and instead elected some lawyer who hadn't done anything to distinguish himself in any way.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #23296714 - 06/01/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Fools Crow said:
I mean really do you want this chick for president?







Chick? She's a woman for fucks sake ya fucking youth.
Take millions of photo's of yourself and you will be able to find many that are as unflattering.

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Any American who votes for Hillary has no one to blame for their shitty lives other than themselves. Voting for Hillary is essentially a form of self-harming. Hillary supporters really are doing themselves in.




Yes America vote for Trump. Make a fucking socipath the head of the worlds most powerful military and give him the codes to launch the nukes so that when he gets pissed off being thwarted by the people he considers beneath him he gets all :triggered: the fuck out.
Yeah. Thanks America. Just what the world needs.




Reading that link, a large number of them apply to Hillary as well.
Hillary v. Trump is not really that much of a choice in that regard. :shrug:

Did not vote in the poll due to lack of meaningful choice -- STAL would have been a better candidate than either of them.
However, as a Canadian it is not my choice to make anyway.  My concern is simply that if the Clinton camp manages to take the democratic primary nomination that millions of Americans won't show up to vote for the same reason. :cookiemonster:




Yeah? The difference is that Hillary Clinton, as a life long politician, is used to being thwarted, whereas, this sociopathic prick Trump is used to being surrounded by yes-men. Who knows how such a dipshit will react to being thwarted.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23296884 - 06/01/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"Fucking youth" is probably one of the weakest insults I've heard in a while :lol
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    #23296946 - 06/01/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

If I really had to choose, it would be Hillary.

She's a POS. Still, the status quo is better than a chronic bankruptcy conman pulling another cut and run, but with the highest stakes

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23296966 - 06/01/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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"Fucking youth" is probably one of the weakest insults I've heard in a while :lol
That said I agree with your post.




Well considering I recently got a two day ban for using the term "fucking sheepdip"  I was trying to tone it down. :wink:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
    #23297053 - 06/01/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bernie, won't vote in shit poll!


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23297161 - 06/01/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Killary sucks big fat dead gorilla dicks.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: joe666]
    #23297214 - 06/01/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Killary sucks big fat dead gorilla dicks.




No she doesn't suck dick at all. Billy goes to other women for that.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23297269 - 06/01/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hillary clinton is corrupt as hell. Shell hardly change anything if not things would be worse, making the US want a more conservative president. If trump is president his term would be so horrific that it would launch the US into a progressive movement. Or as bernie calls it a "POLITICAL REVOLUTION"

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Patlal]
    #23297301 - 06/01/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I will vote for crack head Ezekiel just to block Hillary. :box:

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I will vote for crack head Ezekiel just to block thwart Hillary. :box:




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23297321 - 06/01/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

lol I didn't know so many here are electors

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #23297389 - 06/01/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

All these people who haven't run anything getting to vote, saying how bad trump would be. Americans are fucking stupid. They think they know Buddhism and are good judges of, well, anything. A third of the country is obese, we are fucking morons.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23297575 - 06/01/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

like i said his tax plan is great
but there's no way he's brining manufacture back over here
the people who own that stuff MAKE MONEY
it would only be a matter of time before it's back in south asia or africa ..

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like i said his tax plan is great
but there's no way he's brining manufacture back over here
the people who own that stuff MAKE MONEY
it would only be a matter of time before it's back in south asia or africa ..




Wasn't his tax plan some bs flat rate which would essentially fuck over half the country while stroking the billionaire cock? Maybe things have changed since last time I checked, been a few months

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23297585 - 06/01/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

it was a simplified tax code that didn't re-tax people that had already been taxed
there's no law that says the gov't has to be bigger then the richest guy on earth
the gov't is supposed to work for you as a service

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    #23297590 - 06/01/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

also to not get taxed i'd have to make 14,000
under his plan i could make 24,000 and be fine
that basically the min wage where i live in five years

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23297608 - 06/01/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Herpdy derrr, Hillary changed parties. She was there. She's a criminal, a repeat offender at that. This decade alone she's been involved in what, THREE major scandals? She mishandled confidential documents on her personal email account, and she allowed American ambassadors to be murdered. Pretty sure there were more crimes too.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap]
    #23297610 - 06/01/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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it was a simplified tax code that didn't re-tax people that had already been taxed
there's no law that says the gov't has to be bigger then the richest guy on earth
the gov't is supposed to work for you as a service




You mean big as in financially? I think it's important that the gov is both wealthy and powerful, 400 million corrupt citizens cannot rule themselves.

Not sure about the re-tax subject, so no comment there.


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also to not get taxed i'd have to make 14,000
under his plan i could make 24,000 and be fine
that basically the min wage where i live in five years




Interesting

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    #23297617 - 06/01/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Herpdy derrr, Hillary changed parties. She was there. She's a criminal, a repeat offender at that. This decade alone she's been involved in what, THREE major scandals? She mishandled confidential documents on her personal email account, and she allowed American ambassadors to be murdered. Pretty sure there were more crimes too.




Politicians are all corrupt, blood on the claws isn't special, if anything sets her in a more negative light than the other scum, it's getting caught. Imo

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23297716 - 06/01/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

So everyone is bad and we need a huge government?


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23297721 - 06/01/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

my state pays property taxes
the roads here look like shit

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23297762 - 06/01/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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So everyone is bad and we need a huge government?





Essentially

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23297776 - 06/01/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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no one to blame for their shitty lives other than themselves



I don't like Hillary (or Trump), but this is bad reasoning.

For example, my life rocks. So I guess I don't have anyone to blame for my life rocking except myself? Cool I guess.

See, you can't say "no one to blame for their shitty lives" because it assumes people have shitty lives when they just as easily might not.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23297819 - 06/01/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Not everyone is corrupt, and if they were, youd give their freedom to the government?


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23297845 - 06/01/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm legit surprised that Hillary edges out the Donald for how many Trump supporters I've seen around here





the shroomery is full of liberals


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But where's Bernie?? :crankey:




the poll was for viable candidates, not lunatics that havent managed
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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23297853 - 06/01/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Not everyone is corrupt, and if they were, youd give their freedom to the government?




Corruption is largely a matter of circumstance, need and opportunity. I'm not going to speculate too far on their being saintly exceptions, but there have always been the conditions to feed corruption. The law curbs that, and a larger population requires a larger government.

I'm not saying we need to be monitored while taking shits, with the government reading everyone's emails and controlling our diets.

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    #23297893 - 06/01/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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the shroomery is full of liberals




I don't think i agree with that. I think the shroomery is full of people who think the two party system and the government is corrupt and as a result they don't vote and are apathetic towards politics. The people that are active liberals are outnumbered by the conservatives based on the political threads i read. Trump and hillary are awful so I don't think this poll is any indication of liberal vs conservative.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23297917 - 06/01/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

When does self interest become corruption? I couldn't disagree more.


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    #23297939 - 06/01/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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When does self interest become corruption? I couldn't disagree more.




When companies want to mine in protected forests which we need protected to preserve our ecosystem and not go extinct. That's a start, half this country is all for quick profit without regard to the future.

Of course that is just one issue of many.

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    #23297963 - 06/01/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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When does self interest become corruption? I couldn't disagree more.



Self interest becomes corruption when it breaks the law or ethical codes of conduct.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23297978 - 06/01/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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the shroomery is full of liberals




I don't think i agree with that. I think the shroomery is full of people who think the two party system and the government is corrupt and as a result they don't vote and are apathetic towards politics. The people that are active liberals are outnumbered by the conservatives based on the political threads i read. Trump and hillary are awful so I don't think this poll is any indication of liberal vs conservative.




You really think there's a middle? It doesn't matter if you consider yourself conservative, liberal or independent. it's a frame of mind and everyone leans one way or the other. Anyone who says they don't is a liar.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23298006 - 06/01/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You know the government owns over half of Navada? Really, our ecosystem should be one of the few things our government protects

Ethics are something you give yourself. Being unethical can be a good thing. Having flexible morals can be a good thing. We live in an amoral world
So, if I'm doing a substance, and governing well, am I corrupt? I broke a law. Some would argue substances are unethical.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sticky Green]
    #23298012 - 06/01/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying those people aren't anywhere on the spectrum. They don't give a shit and they don't have an opinion and they're uninformed. And that reflects a lot of people I've known.

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    #23298035 - 06/01/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

The ethics that matters here is the professional code of ethics. Higher professions all have standard codes of this, the ones where it really matters if you are ethical or not. It's not something you "give" yourself, it's given to you.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23298060 - 06/01/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I understand what you're saying, but I have to disagree. Everyone stands somewhere on the spectrum, even if they don't care, opt out or whatever. Their beliefs define them, not the flag they wave.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23298085 - 06/01/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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You know the government owns over half of Navada? Really, our ecosystem should be one of the few things our government protects

Ethics are something you give yourself. Being unethical can be a good thing. Having flexible morals can be a good thing. We live in an amoral world
So, if I'm doing a substance, and governing well, am I corrupt? I broke a law. Some would argue substances are unethical.




Well legally corrupt, but ethically no. Its the latter which concerns me.

The real trouble imo is agreeing on what is right and wrong

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23299074 - 06/02/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hillary's email staffer guy just pleaded the 5th amendment this morning.

Nothing shows signs of honesty when your staff have to lawyer up.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23299391 - 06/02/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

All the Trump supporters need to get real and come to the foregone conclusion that Trump stands no chance of becoming president. This could be a good thing for the Republican party if they can get over their petty differences and inside squabbling in time for the 2020 election. If they could put Paul Ryan up then...they could win.

They have to come up with someone better than the "Tangerine Tornado" and their party needs to bridge a huge gap in ideals befor this can happen.

I mean, think about it...they got beat by a black man with a Arabic sounding name like Barrack Obama at a time when we were at war with radical Islam....twice. Now they will lose to an em-battered woman with a shady past ...another first for the US.
The republican party needs to do some real internal soul searching....but, of course, you have to have a soul to search it.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #23299400 - 06/02/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, trump supporters get real

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23299420 - 06/02/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I suspect that Americans will vote for Hillary. They seem to like having criminals and liars rule over them.

And also electing a woman will score them those all important progressive PC points!

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea] * 2
    #23299639 - 06/02/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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All the Trump supporters need to get real and come to the foregone conclusion that Trump stands no chance of becoming president. This could be a good thing for the Republican party if they can get over their petty differences and inside squabbling in time for the 2020 election. If they could put Paul Ryan up then...they could win.

They have to come up with someone better than the "Tangerine Tornado" and their party needs to bridge a huge gap in ideals befor this can happen.

I mean, think about it...they got beat by a black man with a Arabic sounding name like Barrack Obama at a time when we were at war with radical Islam....twice. Now they will lose to an em-battered woman with a shady past ...another first for the US.
The republican party needs to do some real internal soul searching....but, of course, you have to have a soul to search it.



You're honestly delusional, man. I don't even care enough to explain to you how wrong and misinformed you are. I think it'd just be funnier to let you continue to bask in your ignorance. Hillary supporters... :lol:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea] * 2
    #23299649 - 06/02/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
All the Trump supporters need to get real and come to the foregone conclusion that Trump stands no chance of becoming president. This could be a good thing for the Republican party if they can get over their petty differences and inside squabbling in time for the 2020 election. If they could put Paul Ryan up then...they could win.

They have to come up with someone better than the "Tangerine Tornado" and their party needs to bridge a huge gap in ideals befor this can happen.

I mean, think about it...they got beat by a black man with a Arabic sounding name like Barrack Obama at a time when we were at war with radical Islam....twice. Now they will lose to an em-battered woman with a shady past ...another first for the US.
The republican party needs to do some real internal soul searching....but, of course, you have to have a soul to search it.




Trump will win in a landslide, not even close.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23299702 - 06/02/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck both of them. I wouldn't vote.. but read this and leads me to believe if i was forced at gunpoint or something i'd vote Hillary, well b/c, Trump doesn't believe in science....
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/05/31/3783216/stephen-hawking-donald-trump-climate-change/


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Webster10]
    #23299724 - 06/02/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
All the Trump supporters need to get real and come to the foregone conclusion that Trump stands no chance of becoming president. This could be a good thing for the Republican party if they can get over their petty differences and inside squabbling in time for the 2020 election. If they could put Paul Ryan up then...they could win.

They have to come up with someone better than the "Tangerine Tornado" and their party needs to bridge a huge gap in ideals befor this can happen.

I mean, think about it...they got beat by a black man with a Arabic sounding name like Barrack Obama at a time when we were at war with radical Islam....twice. Now they will lose to an em-battered woman with a shady past ...another first for the US.
The republican party needs to do some real internal soul searching....but, of course, you have to have a soul to search it.



You're honestly delusional, man. I don't even care enough to explain to you how wrong and misinformed you are. I think it'd just be funnier to let you continue to bask in your ignorance. Hillary supporters... :lol:



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23300158 - 06/02/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Women will vote for her because women will vote for a woman. they are much more socialist. They think trump is sexist for no reason. I suppose you can pick on his wallmidea, or his muslem idea, or that sent plan, bit this is a bunch of uninformed pieces of garbage who haven't ever managed a thing in their life saying Trump is unqualified or insane. Americans are upity

Black people voted for Obama because he is black, also


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23300215 - 06/02/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Vote for me.
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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Citizen X] * 1
    #23300273 - 06/02/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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What does stal mean?

:sogood:



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23301186 - 06/02/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Black people voted for Obama because he is black, also




Blacks in NYC actually weren't allowed to operate business up until like the 80's or 90's lol
all the bank has to do is deny you

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23301199 - 06/02/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

hillary by a landslide, anyone who thinks trump should be in charge of anything other then his own demise (another failure) needs to read and learn about the world.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23301204 - 06/02/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Women will vote for her because women will vote for a woman. they are much more socialist. They think trump is sexist for no reason. I suppose you can pick on his wallmidea, or his muslem idea, or that sent plan, bit this is a bunch of uninformed pieces of garbage who haven't ever managed a thing in their life saying Trump is unqualified or insane. Americans are upity

Black people voted for Obama because he is black, also



so trump isn't a complete piece of shit because all of his shit added up equals upity?

logic! but then again what do i know, im not in the special people club


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap]
    #23301212 - 06/02/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Black people voted for Obama because he is black, also




Blacks in NYC actually weren't allowed to operate business up until like the 80's or 90's lol
all the bank has to do is deny you




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman]
    #23301224 - 06/02/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

you ever been a loan officer? qman?


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #23301239 - 06/02/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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you ever been a loan officer? qman?




His statement was completely incorrect, blacks were allowed to operate businesses in NY before the 1980's. I can't believe I'm actually addressing such a moronic statement. :facepalm:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman]
    #23301256 - 06/02/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
All the Trump supporters need to get real and come to the foregone conclusion that Trump stands no chance of becoming president. This could be a good thing for the Republican party if they can get over their petty differences and inside squabbling in time for the 2020 election. If they could put Paul Ryan up then...they could win.

They have to come up with someone better than the "Tangerine Tornado" and their party needs to bridge a huge gap in ideals befor this can happen.

I mean, think about it...they got beat by a black man with a Arabic sounding name like Barrack Obama at a time when we were at war with radical Islam....twice. Now they will lose to an em-battered woman with a shady past ...another first for the US.
The republican party needs to do some real internal soul searching....but, of course, you have to have a soul to search it.




Trump will win in a landslide, not even close.




I'm inclined to agree with this. Maybe not a landslide cause the electoral college is rigged for the democrats but hillary is just so terrible, and trump is gonna crucify her. I'm still voting for her though. :lol:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman]
    #23301257 - 06/02/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Liberals love revisionist history.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sticky Green]
    #23301477 - 06/02/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Well right now the poll is exactly 50/50 at 39/39 votes.
Very interesting. Something tells me the election is going to be very similar.
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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman]
    #23301592 - 06/02/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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you ever been a loan officer? qman?




His statement was completely incorrect, blacks were allowed to operate businesses in NY before the 1980's. I can't believe I'm actually addressing such a moronic statement. :facepalm:




no they fucking couldn't
certain area's where not loaned out money or managed and they were mostly populated by blacks
also affirmative action used to be for business that had hundreds of employee's

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap] * 3
    #23301839 - 06/02/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bernie Sanders tho. Blows both of them out of the water.
It's a shame so many are deceived by the media about his policies and real potential to win this election. And yet still he absolutely crushes Trump in polling and people think that he is 'losing' to Hillary and don't see how extremely corrupt the whole process of media blackout, rigged primaries, rigged convention, inaccurate polling, and super delegates/ closed primary system is.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23301866 - 06/02/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bernie's overrated. Just like Trump's just saying everything the racists and rednecks want to hear, and Hillary is saying everything the women and minorities want to hear, Bernie is just saying everything the hippies and college students want to hear.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 4
    #23301874 - 06/02/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Nah dude thats BS. Bernie has been saying the same things, walking the walk for decades, his message has never changed, so no he is not pandering to anyone. You better believe he believes every single word he says.

Bernie was out protesting with the civil rights movement while Hillary was shilling away for Barry Goldwater. Doesn't get anymore clear cut than that.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 2
    #23301875 - 06/02/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bernies been saying the same thing for 40 years before anything he was saying was remotely popular. Now that we're really seeing the effect of the policies he's rallied against the people are behind him.. trumps said the same thing for like 5 days before pandering to some other group lmao



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23301880 - 06/02/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You guys don't get it. People in politics pick a group to pander to. That's their job. And if they ever do make it into any office of power - mayor, governor, and especially president - all that shit goes out the window and they just follow the same program that the elite has been pushing for over a century.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 1
    #23301892 - 06/02/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

It's a matter of intuition whether you believe someone or not.. when would you ever think someone is genuine when you're so jaded? I get it perfectly , what you don't understand is that something people truly do want the country to succeed and not just benefit themselves. If you think everyone's equally corrupt then the corrupt fools have won your mind.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 2
    #23301900 - 06/02/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I think that's an incredibly lazy opinion of politics. It's easy to say they're all corrupt and working for the "same people." But that's not reality. Everyone has their own agenda, some people are only into self aggrandizement like the clintons and others genuinely want to accomplish something and do something good for society like bernie.

What does that say about you that you think all people are so easily corruptible and only interested in money and power?

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23301912 - 06/02/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Nah. I'm not saying their aren't good people in politics out there, I'm just saying that it doesn't matter how good of a captain you have if the ship is actually being directed belowdeck. It doesn't matter how big of a show the captain might make on deck, or how big and shiny his steering wheel is if the true steering wheel is being controlled by someone else.

It's like routing for a student driver, when the guy in the passenger seat actually had the overriding steering wheel and can redirect the car at a moments notice if the student driver makes a mistake.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 1
    #23301920 - 06/02/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

A powerful president can have a huge effect on the direction of the country if theyre not willing to be weak little bitches when the powers in the country try and munipulate them


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 2
    #23301925 - 06/02/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

We live in a democracy, we have the tools we need to make changes, it's called voting. It sure as hell isnt gonna change if you step back and wash your hands of it. :shrug:

The religious right understood this and the tea party understood this, they mobilized, they organized, they vited, and they have drastically changed the direction of this country and the republican party. The majority leader in congress, eric cantor, was dumped in a primary because of the power of voting. And now trump is the nominee of the republican party.

If you yourself think you have no ability to affect a change or have a voice it's because of you.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 2
    #23301932 - 06/02/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

The occupy wall street movement didn't amount to diddly squat cause it was just a bunch of hippies and hobos smoking weed and camping. They never turned any of that into actual organization and political action and that's where it failed it was just a feel good movement that didn't offer anything.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23301943 - 06/02/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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A powerful president can have a huge effect on the direction of the country if theyre not willing to be weak little bitches when the powers in the country try and munipulate them



Like JFK?



Worked out pretty well for him.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 3
    #23301950 - 06/02/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah it did actually, in the wake of his death, the country came together to pass the civil rights act. On his watch we didn't start a thermonuclear war in Russia. Pretty damn effective if you ask me. :shrug:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23301953 - 06/02/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

:puppydogeyes:

Scraps given to the dog by the men sitting around the table.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 2
    #23301965 - 06/03/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

For black people that wasn't "scraps." It was the difference between being treated like a subhuman mongrel and a person deserving of the rights listed in the constitution. For a lot of people it changed their lives dramatically and it was a milestone in race relations that we should never forget. And it is the foundation through which more rights have been gained for other groups of people, like me.

Come on man.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23301970 - 06/03/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I see your point. Still you are looking at the micro-perspective and I'm looking at the macro-perspective.

Just because you let the dog off the leash doesn't make it any less of a slave.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23301971 - 06/03/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

and then we got invovled in a war in vietnam in which millions of vietmanese died lol

you know i can think of one other person who may have had a hand in the same thing more then a few times

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23301973 - 06/03/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

A smart dog can tear the throat out of its unsuspecting enslavers :smilingpuppy:

Not to say he's all flowers and goodness but I bet the corrupt mafia and corporate elements thought they had everything under control when putin came to power only to have the rug torn out from under them


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23301979 - 06/03/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

Most people aren't ready or willing to consider the truth, let alone do something about it.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 2
    #23301981 - 06/03/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.

Change is never easy and it has always come at great cost but it has always been more than possible as has been proven in our nation's history time and time again.

I'll give you an economic example. In the late 19th century, with the onset of industrialization, society was stratified into literally a handful of individuals who had an iron monopolistic grip on every sector of the economy and a huge underbelly of essentially slave laborers who were paid next to nothing to work dangerous conditions with zero rights. Our national forests were being destroyed for the sake of industry. Our food and our water supplied were poison because industry was unrestrained in their quest for power and profits. And yet in these bleak conditions the people were able to turn the tide and in a matter of about two decades passed a tremendous amount of laws that transformed society closer to what it looks like today. We got the FDA, national protected parks, the EPA, regulations on monopolies, workers rights etc.

So yeah we as a people have fought against worst odds and won.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23301985 - 06/03/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not saying things don't change. I'm just saying that painting white roses red doesn't change much.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 1
    #23301990 - 06/03/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You need some optimism bro. All the most accomplished people never said it can't be done the system is rigged, they see the world as pliable, use it to accomplish what you want. :shrug:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23302003 - 06/03/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Trump because conservative fiscal policy > liberal fiscal policy.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #23302011 - 06/03/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not saying "it can't be done". Not completely sure what you mean by that, but it sounds like you're implying personal success.

What I am saying though is that until 1% of population ceases to control 50% or more of the wealth I won't see much of difference between the present and when kings and aristocrats ruled over the peasants.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23302021 - 06/03/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah man i hear ya but that ain't gonna change by itself.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23302057 - 06/03/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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What I am saying though is that until 1% of population ceases to control 50% or more of the wealth I won't see much of difference between the present and when kings and aristocrats ruled over the peasants.




Wealth distribution isn't the issue; the idea of what a middle class lifestyle entails hasn't changed with the reality of a middle class lifestyle in America over time.  This has pretty much been the case for a long long time, but societal changes, e.g. more women in the workforce, have masked the issue until recent years.  This isn't really a left/right issue IMO.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23302076 - 06/03/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Yeah man i hear ya but that ain't gonna change by itself.



I doubt it will ever change. Automation will take over. The government and the elite will put everyone on welfare and the majority will be pacified with that. Even if a rebellion where to occur it would just cause the death of millions and the collapse of society and the whole process of Gangsterism where the strong pacify the weak will begin anew.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23302078 - 06/03/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

How is wealth distribution not the issue? Have you seen the graphs? There's a video you should check on YouTube. Just search wealth distribution inequality in America. If you don't think wealth distribution is the issue... Then I don't even know what to say to you. :tongue2:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23302110 - 06/03/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

This whole ordeal is hilarious to watch unfold. Were I american I would prefer to vote for neither candidate, and while I lean to thinking Trump would be somewhat worse, I have no faith in that assessment, and it does not reflect any like for Hillary on my part whatsoever.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Ezuma]
    #23302118 - 06/03/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Basically my sentiments.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow]
    #23302178 - 06/03/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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How is wealth distribution not the issue? Have you seen the graphs? There's a video you should check on YouTube. Just search wealth distribution inequality in America. If you don't think wealth distribution is the issue... Then I don't even know what to say to you. :tongue2:




I'm familiar with the issue and I stand behind my statement.  America's middle class is what drives the country's economy. Over the years the unattainability of the popular idea of what a middle class lifestyle is on a middle class income has led to the middle class running up debt they can't pay from their mortgage to their car payments, subsequent economic fallout, substantial labor force decreases, demoralization, etc. 
More women entering the workforce since the 1950s put a band aid on the issue by doubling the income potential of households across the country.  However, that stopgap isn't cutting it anymore especially since the housing market fallout several years ago left so many financially struggling.
If the middle class is demoralized and indebted to their eyeballs, the economy suffers across the board.  You can't tax the rich to make up for it, like the left wants to do.  Reaganesque trickle-down economics doesn't fix it either.  They're band aids.  We need to fix the middle class, not the poor and rich, and the government POTUS isn't really going to be able to do that.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #23302511 - 06/03/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap]
    #23302811 - 06/03/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

The riots in San Jose were fucking despicable yesterday.

Pieces of shit attacking trump supporters, surrounding them and ganging up on people.

Fucking low life garbage, all of them.  Waving their Mexican flag in everyones face.  Like go the fuck back to Mexico if its so great.  I watched one guy get completely sucker punched in the face and dropped to the concrete cause he pushed a Mexican flag out of his face.

Police couldn't even help, they were useless.


I hope this secures a lead for Trump.  :mad2::mad2:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ar-BBtOyJC?li=BBnb7Kz


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #23302925 - 06/03/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
The riots in San Jose were fucking despicable yesterday.

Pieces of shit attacking trump supporters, surrounding them and ganging up on people.

Fucking low life garbage, all of them.  Waving their Mexican flag in everyones face.  Like go the fuck back to Mexico if its so great.  I watched one guy get completely sucker punched in the face and dropped to the concrete cause he pushed a Mexican flag out of his face.

Police couldn't even help, they were useless.


I hope this secures a lead for Trump.  :mad2::mad2:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ar-BBtOyJC?li=BBnb7Kz





Riots? Is that the worst footage of said riots you could find?
Are you having a fucking laugh?
You Trumpons seem to be becoming more hysterical by the day.
Oh no, an egg was thrown.
Oh no. Some people were exercising their democratic right to protest.
Someone, somehow, at a demonstration, ended up bleeding. 
Big. Fucking. Deal.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23302930 - 06/03/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck off.  You think people getting decked in the face is fucking protest?

Go join them, I hope you get a chair slammed in your face and come back here saying "oh yeah, peaceful protest guys"

This is just ONE of the riots you liberal idiots have caused. the First amendment doesnt cover ASSAULT and ATTEMPTED MURDER.

Sucker punching an older guy in the side of the head is ATTEMPTED MURDER. 

Fucking dimwits :facepalm:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23302950 - 06/03/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
The riots in San Jose were fucking despicable yesterday.

Pieces of shit attacking trump supporters, surrounding them and ganging up on people.

Fucking low life garbage, all of them.  Waving their Mexican flag in everyones face.  Like go the fuck back to Mexico if its so great.  I watched one guy get completely sucker punched in the face and dropped to the concrete cause he pushed a Mexican flag out of his face.

Police couldn't even help, they were useless.


I hope this secures a lead for Trump.  :mad2::mad2:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ar-BBtOyJC?li=BBnb7Kz





Riots? Is that the worst footage of said riots you could find?
Are you having a fucking laugh?
You Trumpons seem to be becoming more hysterical by the day.
Oh no, an egg was thrown.
Oh no. Some people were exercising their democratic right to protest.
Someone, somehow, at a demonstration, ended up bleeding. 
Big. Fucking. Deal.




They have rioted (anti-Trump) in many different cities across the US the last few months, where have you been?

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman]
    #23302966 - 06/03/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
The riots in San Jose were fucking despicable yesterday.

Pieces of shit attacking trump supporters, surrounding them and ganging up on people.

Fucking low life garbage, all of them.  Waving their Mexican flag in everyones face.  Like go the fuck back to Mexico if its so great.  I watched one guy get completely sucker punched in the face and dropped to the concrete cause he pushed a Mexican flag out of his face.

Police couldn't even help, they were useless.


I hope this secures a lead for Trump.  :mad2::mad2:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ar-BBtOyJC?li=BBnb7Kz





Riots? Is that the worst footage of said riots you could find?
Are you having a fucking laugh?
You Trumpons seem to be becoming more hysterical by the day.
Oh no, an egg was thrown.
Oh no. Some people were exercising their democratic right to protest.
Someone, somehow, at a demonstration, ended up bleeding. 
Big. Fucking. Deal.




They have rioted (anti-Trump) in many different cities across the US the last few months, where have you been?





Obviously in his lib hole.

There's no holding back, this shit infuriates me.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist]
    #23303080 - 06/03/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Poll is neck in neck. It'd be a sad state of affairs if the POTUS was worth jack shit


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #23303104 - 06/03/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
The riots in San Jose were fucking despicable yesterday.

Pieces of shit attacking trump supporters, surrounding them and ganging up on people.

Fucking low life garbage, all of them.  Waving their Mexican flag in everyones face.  Like go the fuck back to Mexico if its so great.  I watched one guy get completely sucker punched in the face and dropped to the concrete cause he pushed a Mexican flag out of his face.

Police couldn't even help, they were useless.


I hope this secures a lead for Trump.  :mad2::mad2:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ar-BBtOyJC?li=BBnb7Kz





Riots? Is that the worst footage of said riots you could find?
Are you having a fucking laugh?
You Trumpons seem to be becoming more hysterical by the day.
Oh no, an egg was thrown.
Oh no. Some people were exercising their democratic right to protest.
Someone, somehow, at a demonstration, ended up bleeding. 
Big. Fucking. Deal.




They have rioted (anti-Trump) in many different cities across the US the last few months, where have you been?





Obviously in his lib hole.

There's no holding back, this shit infuriates me.




I've been in the UK, as allways.
For all your foot stomping, you came up with news link which showed very little in the way of rioting, which is what I was commenting on.

Your Infuriated? Who gives a flying fuck.
The people demonstrating against your Trump, who has specifically focussed on their particular minority group as a target to persecute if he is elected by you Trumpaloons.

Who knows how much blood will be lost if this shithead gets power and tries to implement his policy of repatriation.

Beware of who you give power to.


Fuck it. I just like the song.

Over here remember, we have good reason to be wary of people that seek political power on a populist anti-minority policy.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23303120 - 06/03/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist]
    #23303156 - 06/03/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"focused on a particular minority group as a target to persecute"

Oh, you mean illegals that don't even belong in the US?  The law mandates they get deported.

Did you know Obama has been deporting them at record numbers? http://fusion.net/story/252637/obama-has-deported-more-immigrants-than-any-other-president-now-hes-running-up-the-score/

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: hex_enduction] * 1
    #23303167 - 06/03/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

hex_enduction said:
Poll is neck in neck. It'd be a sad state of affairs if the POTUS was worth jack shit




http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls/2016-general-election-matchups/

Yup.

Sanders would destroy Trump. Unfortunitely, Clinton is too power hungry to drop out.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist]
    #23303171 - 06/03/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
    #23303184 - 06/03/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.





If you really looked at my link then you must have the IQ of a :retard:

Because you still don't get it.  I couldn't care less if these idiots start getting shot for their RIOTS.  Nobody needs thugs in this world anyway. And thats exactly what they are, THUGS.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23303292 - 06/03/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.



This is so true...I have friends in Italy, UK, Germany,Israel,Australia and NZ...and they all wonder how the fuck an idiot like Donald Trump could even be considered as President of the most powerful country on earth. It is mind boggling as well as very very scary.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
    #23303303 - 06/03/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah so much scarier then having a crooked evil women who is on the verge of indictment by the FBI and wants to disarm law abiding citizens so they are at her mercy.

Such a better choice :facepalm::doublefacepalm:



Thats a triple face palm because thats how dumb your post is.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist]
    #23303312 - 06/03/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Quote:

deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.





If you really looked at my link then you must have the IQ of a :retard:


Because you still don't get it.  I couldn't care less if these idiots start getting shot for their RIOTS.  Nobody needs thugs in this world anyway. And thats exactly what they are, THUGS.




I could only veiw the first news link, all the others had the message "unsupported by your browser".

And, no. They were exercising their right to protest. Some of them, as often happens when  passions get raised, went a little too far.
Stereotypical American Trumpon responce...shoot em all.

Still wonder why some people are worried by you Trumpons?
Most of you sound like your continuously menstruating, hence my feeble attempt at humour by using the "Trumpon" monica.
You'll probably use your bloody tampons to make your mark on the ballot paper. :rofl:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist]
    #23303317 - 06/03/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

It's cuz Hillary isn't as flamboyant about her foolishness. Whereas Trump is the complete opposite. That's why most people don't recognize how awful a choice Hillary also is.

I mean let's admit it they both suck dick. The only reason I prefer Trump over Hillary is that Hillary's vibe is evil as fuck, and Trump isn't tied to the same elite donors that Hillary, and Obama, and everyone else before them pretty much have been. He's got enough money to tell them to fuck off and do his own thing. Which is a nice change of pace when it comes to politics imo.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
    #23303325 - 06/03/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
Quote:

deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.





If you really looked at my link then you must have the IQ of a :retard:


Because you still don't get it.  I couldn't care less if these idiots start getting shot for their RIOTS.  Nobody needs thugs in this world anyway. And thats exactly what they are, THUGS.




I could only veiw the first news link, all the others had the message "unsupported by your browser".

And, no. They were exercising their right to protest. Some of them, as often happens when  passions get raised, went a little too far.
Stereotypical American Trumpon responce...shoot em all.

Still wonder why some people are worried by you Trumpons?
Most of you sound like your continuously menstruating, hence my feeble attempt at humour by using the "Trumpon" monica.
You'll probably use your bloody tampons to make your mark on the ballot paper. :rofl:





Nobody knows wtf a Trumpon is.  Keep your gay european lingo to yourself.

An your right I dont give a fuck if drastic measures are taken against thugs.

Continue on with your crumpets and tea and syrian refugees.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #23303355 - 06/03/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

If the only choices were trump or Hillary I would choose Canada....


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23303397 - 06/03/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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If the only choices were trump or Hillary I would choose Canada....



What if Canada builds a wall? You think they aren't already anticipating this??? :70swhoa:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23303419 - 06/03/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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If the only choices were trump or Hillary I would choose Canada....



What if Canada builds a wall? You think they aren't already anticipating this??? :70swhoa:



They can get the Americans to build it for them.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Fools Crow] * 3
    #23303427 - 06/03/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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It's cuz Hillary isn't as flamboyant about her foolishness. Whereas Trump is the complete opposite. That's why most people don't recognize how awful a choice Hillary also is.

I mean let's admit it they both suck dick. The only reason I prefer Trump over Hillary is that Hillary's vibe is evil as fuck, and Trump isn't tied to the same elite donors that Hillary, and Obama, and everyone else before them pretty much have been. He's got enough money to tell them to fuck off and do his own thing. Which is a nice change of pace when it comes to politics imo.



Trump uses smoke and mirrors to give the illusion that he is using his own money, when, in fact he is borrowing money that will most likely  be paid back with political contributions. Before long, he will also be sucking the same superpac tit that they all suck once he wins the nomination for sure.

Trump manipulates money and avoids paying his due taxes with offshore accounts like alot of the elites...He is purposely hiding his finances from the public for as long as he can. Thing is that most of his followers are so dense, they won't even care or will write it off to political cannon fodder from the Hillary camp.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23303486 - 06/03/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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If the only choices were trump or Hillary I would choose Canada....



What if Canada builds a wall? You think they aren't already anticipating this??? :70swhoa:



They can get the Americans to build it for them.




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Herbologist]
    #23303963 - 06/03/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Double posting all over the shop.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23303971 - 06/03/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Nobody knows wtf a Trumpon is.  Keep your gay european lingo to yourself.

An your right I dont give a fuck if drastic measures are taken against thugs.

Continue on with your crumpets and tea and syrian refugees.




Just playing with words, you know, like some morons refer to Hillary as billary or even killary.
Take the 'r' and 'u' out of "Trumpons" and insert an 'a' and you got yourself...tampons.
Not European lingo, it's called wit, ya moorhen.

Waits for Pastywhyte to come along with the ban hammer for using such a horribly offensive term. :rolleyes:




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23303974 - 06/03/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.



This is so true...I have friends in Italy, UK, Germany,Israel,Australia and NZ...and they all wonder how the fuck an idiot like Donald Trump could even be considered as President of the most powerful country on earth. It is mind boggling as well as very very scary.




Well, Germany's right-wing party is growing in numbers everyday, so maybe your German friend really isn't paying attention to his own politics.

As far as Israel, please tell me you're fucking joking, their whole nation is full of Trump like polices.

Do you know what Australia does to immigrants that try to enter their nation by sea?  They turn those boats around.

Maybe it's time to have a second talk with your international friends, because it sounds like nobody in that circle is paying attention to what is really happening around the world.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23303989 - 06/03/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Why the fuck are you even commenting if you live in fuckin Europe?

You obviously didn't even look at the article.  Thats a website typically biased towards the left and IT EVEN SHOWS videos of the guy being sucker punched in the head.  ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOT PROTEST ITS RIOTING

Egg throwing?  No shit that isn't going to kill someone but its pure intimidation which is NOT peaceful protesting.  Trump hasn't threatened action against a single legal minority, you are a misinformed twat.





I only watched the news broadcast you linked too. I didn't trawl through the entire fucking website.

What on earth makes you think people, other than Americans, aren't going to take an interest in who the next leader in charge of the worlds largest military might be.
We are not all as fucking insular as you Trumpon "twats".

You think that when the Trumpon goonage starts rounding up the illegals that their legal relatives aren't going to escalate their demonstrations? and, judging by the way your trigger happy police behave -yes, I've heard of that too- it's only a matter of time before people are shot dead in the street leading to further escalation, ad-fucking-infinitum.




Obama has been deporting illegals as well, Trump is just going to kick it up a notch, Americans want the existing immigration laws to be enforced.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: qman] * 1
    #23304110 - 06/03/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Obama has been deporting illegals as well, Trump is just going to kick it up a notch, Americans want the existing immigration laws to be enforced.




"kick it up a notch"?
He is attempting to popularise the specific targeting of a minority for persecution and deportation. What chance is there of this being accomplished without violence.
Ever heard of Auschwitz?

Well of course Obama's been deporting illegals. Since he's been president more and more Mexicans have fled their fuck up of a country, so more have been entering illegally, caught, and sent back.

Similarly, since he became president more MMJ clinics have opened up than ever before, but, been unable to abide by the stringent criteria required for such a service and have therefore been closed down. Not really sure of the correlation between the two but then drUnK. :shrug:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23305598 - 06/04/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Clinton - is a liar, possible criminal, and uses her power to work the system. Anyone a little bit internet savy knows there would be only one fucking reason to have a dedicated server just for emails. Top it off with it located in some random NYC apartment. LMAO. She was totally using that to communicate to whomever she was dealing with doing sketchy shit. Donations probably from sketchy dictators for her Sketchy Clinton foundation.


Think about it. If you use your fucking work email at work for something else then work you are going to get fired. It's common sense not to. She lies and shrugs it off like "Wiped the server you mean with a cloth - body language sign she intentionally wiped that shit.


She sounds like a robot. Denounces the pharmaceutical companies for making large profits but then gives speeches for large amounts to them... it's so dumb....

Trump wouldn't be my ideal candidate. He doesn't choose the best words and needs to do some studying but I'd rather have him run the country then Hillary so I choose Trump.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23305608 - 06/04/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I wouldn't vote for Hillary unless the other candidate was Cenk Uyger
With his vice president, black person of unintelligable gender

This charloton is the biggest liberal, and his news show is named after the people who perpetrated the Arminian genocide
Which he denies.




i don't really care what his political opinions are, he has a face which makes it impossible for me to take him seriously

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23305749 - 06/04/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bernie tho :3


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23305910 - 06/04/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That's a good thing!


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23306193 - 06/04/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I wouldn't vote for Hillary unless the other candidate was Cenk Uyger
With his vice president, black person of unintelligable gender

This charloton is the biggest liberal, and his news show is named after the people who perpetrated the Arminian genocide
Which he denies.




i don't really care what his political opinions are, he has a face which makes it impossible for me to take him seriously




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23308082 - 06/04/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

:nicetry:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23308125 - 06/04/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23308133 - 06/04/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, Uyghurs didn't do the Armenian genocide, it was Turks. Uyghurs are Turkic but NOT Turks and they're from China. How the hell are they gonna persecute the Armenians from China?


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23308142 - 06/04/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

he means the Young Turks (the Turkish politic movement)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23308147 - 06/04/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, derp


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23308171 - 06/04/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Turkeys in the midst of political frevor right now. That entire country is about to go off the walls. Theres reports leaking out of a small presence beginning to pour into Syria. Geopolitically thats major.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23308185 - 06/04/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Having met turkish people and armenian people. I vote turkey


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23308193 - 06/04/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You mean Turks are fleeing to Syria?

Their president is bonkers and their system is as corrupt as the Empire ever was. I wonder if they are still trying to get into the EU, with all this hyper religious bull pappy their president has been pulling, like saying Muslim women who use birth control are traitors.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23308204 - 06/04/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Their armed forces.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23308206 - 06/04/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Oh ok. That doesn't surprise me, they are probably trying to fuck with the Kurds.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #23308348 - 06/04/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Turkeys in the midst of political frevor right now. That entire country is about to go off the walls. Theres reports leaking out of a small presence beginning to pour into Syria. Geopolitically thats major.



Total lunacy the EU is considering admitting them.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23308360 - 06/04/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Oh ok. That doesn't surprise me, they are probably trying to fuck with the Kurds.




You know how in WW1 there was a complex chain of alliances that got set off? This is essentially that in slow motion.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23309158 - 06/05/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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You mean Turks are fleeing to Syria?

Their president is bonkers and their system is as corrupt as the Empire ever was. I wonder if they are still trying to get into the EU, with all this hyper religious bull pappy their president has been pulling, like saying Muslim women who use birth control are traitors.



Isn't that what half of republicans think anyway? :smilingpuppy:


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    #23309159 - 06/05/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Oh ok. That doesn't surprise me, they are probably trying to fuck with the Kurds.




You know how in WW1 there was a complex chain of alliances that got set off? This is essentially that in slow motion.



I think it's distinctly different in that the US/NATO doesn't really honestly give a fuck to support Turkley in their nonsense, maybe a regional war with shadow support but I don't think the US finds anything in that region at the moment worth direct confrontation with Russia.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23309173 - 06/05/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I dont know, when it came to Turkey and Russia butting heads the US has always been vocal about their backing, and Russia has made it clear they would react to a Turkish invasion of Syria. That leaves these countries at a impasse, and Im not so sure level heads are gonna prevail this time around.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23309211 - 06/05/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

The US is openly allied with the kurds, and was not happy that Turkey directly denied their request to cease operations against them. Ever since the Iraq war, Turkey has been reneging the US in every way that it really matters - I would say that relations are at an all time low. And if conflict with Russia is initiated due to Turkish interference in Syria - I don't think the US will step in to help them, as it is not even bound by NATO to do so since the conflict would've been initiated due to Turkish offensive action. Do you have any links to the US showing strong support of turkey's actions lately? I haven't noticed much


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23309565 - 06/05/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Turkeys in the midst of political frevor right now. That entire country is about to go off the walls. Theres reports leaking out of a small presence beginning to pour into Syria. Geopolitically thats major.



Total lunacy the EU is considering admitting them.




Yep. Turkey has us over a barrel. We seem to have the choice between admitting them into the EU, making them Europes most populous country, or, they'll let all the Syrians refugees through their borders into Europe.

Europe is fucked either way. Oh well, the EU was an interesting experiment that gave us a relatively peaceful interlude between the eras of mass carnage.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: deucedbi9] * 2
    #23309606 - 06/05/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Meanwhile, while we are all here talking about this shit...the politicians are sitting back and watching divide and rule take effect and are reaping the rewards of pitting society against each other.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: keyser_soze]
    #23309671 - 06/05/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Meanwhile, while we are all here talking about this shit...the politicians are sitting back and watching divide and rule take effect and are reaping the rewards of pitting society against each other.



That's why I've totally backed away from politics. The only thing I can do is not add to the friction that is already taking place.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Citizen X]
    #23309758 - 06/05/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I just can't wait till it all implodes and people have had enough. A good friend is armoring out this old 7series beamer he picked up from an auction. Thing has balls all we need to do is lift it and add armor plating to the windows. We're ready for some mad max shit.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Mescalean]
    #23309831 - 06/05/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

We're going to need roughly 1 million protestors, out on the streets, protesting against the next war that Hillary Clinton is going to try to launch. That evil fucking bitch. We can't let them get away with the slaughter of even more innocent people.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: chopstick]
    #23310339 - 06/05/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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We're going to need roughly 1 million protestors, out on the streets, protesting against the next war that Hillary Clinton is going to try to launch. That evil fucking bitch. We can't let them get away with the slaughter of even more innocent people.





A good million protesters at the DNC would be a good start to keeping her out of power in the first place,

The current protest is already expecting about 100,000

I don't think the DNC in its right mind will be able to nominate her if they see a crowd over 500,000 supporting bernie outside the convention center.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23310348 - 06/05/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

is there an option for neither hillary nor trump?:rolleyes:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23310360 - 06/05/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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the shroomery is full of liberals




I don't think i agree with that. I think the shroomery is full of people who think the two party system and the government is corrupt and as a result they don't vote and are apathetic towards politics.





what you describe is lliberals

it's the same people that voted for obama because ron paul didnt get the nomination

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: keyser_soze]
    #23310407 - 06/05/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Meanwhile, while we are all here talking about this shit...the politicians are sitting back and watching divide and rule take effect and are reaping the rewards of pitting society against each other.




Are you having a fucking laugh? Politicians don't controll fuckall, they do however, have the ability to make shit worse, especially when they stand on a platform of persecuting minority groups. We always give these shitheads power at our own peril.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: keyser_soze]
    #23310425 - 06/05/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Meanwhile, while we are all here talking about this shit...the politicians are sitting back and watching divide and rule take effect and are reaping the rewards of pitting society against each other.



I gotta disagree with yea on that, it's not the politicians' reaping the rewards, it's the people who fund those politicans, but when it comes down to who's fault it is... it's more like the entire system's fault, politicans are just the sprinkles on the cake. Politicans spend almost half their time raising funds, and even if they got a fully funded campaign, they gotta raise funds from their party. John Oliver a comedian pointed this out on his "Congressional funding" episode of last week tonight series (you can find it on youtube, i'm not posting links, cause im new here and don't know dat much about the rules when it comes to giving links). And you think those people politicans get money from don't want anything in return? They do! It can be in the form of tax write offs, anything that gives an advantage to those donators. the whole system is ridged!


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23310448 - 06/05/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, Uyghurs didn't do the Armenian genocide,





no but the the Chinese Uyghers are committing terrorist attacks in Thailand including the bombings on shrines in Bangkok


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it was Turks. Uyghurs are Turkic but NOT Turks and they're from China. How the hell are they gonna persecute the Armenians from China?




I'm sure you'll wish to believe that not a single one had ever emigrated outside
of china or that no one has ever waged a war far from their homeland, while the
Uyghurs arent responsible for the Armenian genocide it astounds me that Cenk
Uyghur is supported by so many of these anti-nationalism progressives even
though he's a turkish nationalist and a denier of the other holocaust, of course
there's plenty of white nationalists socialists that deny the jewish holocaust
as well... kinda crazy how it all comes back to them

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23310507 - 06/05/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23310521 - 06/05/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Annnnd here come the reports of extreme vote rigging in Puerto Rico... apparently prisons were forced to openly cast ballots and all ballots for other candidates than Hillary were denied, while staffers for other candidates were denied certification all together by Roberto Prats (infamous Hillary cronie since 08')...

Total number of polling locations reduced from 1500 to 500~ as well, in 08' they had over 2300. Same bullshit tactics as were used in Arizona.... and of course the DNC denies all culpability. So fucked up smh :sad:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23310557 - 06/05/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Obama made several allusions to the dissolvement of the United states during his final address. I think "the death of the republic has never looked better" was one of them. Hillarys just the final piece of the puzzle.

EDIT: couldnt find anything recent about their relationship with Turkey but theyve been backing them politically for quite a while. Maybe not to the point of marching to war with them but it complicates things.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23311335 - 06/05/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

puerto rico is a shithole

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Konyap]
    #23311727 - 06/05/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

The US military and political leadership have lost their fucking minds. Does anyone here really want a nuclear war with Russia? Well, we might get one at this rate. The US is sending a lot of signals to Russia that we are going to go to war with them, and Russia may very well be forced to respond... this is surely a dangerous time to be alive.

Now that the US/NATO are placing a strategic anti-ballistic missile shield around all of Russia's borders, these sick fuckers are seriously starting to think it might be possible to *win* a nuclear war with Russia, or at-least be able to attempt a successful nuclear first-strike. It's insane. I can't believe how fucking Mad the American military leadership has become. These people have lost their fucking minds. Human Life means nothing to these people.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Asante]
    #23311731 - 06/05/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hillary!

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311749 - 06/05/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Id go with Trump.

Hillary I only want her to win so she can get caught getting her fish fileted by the male receptionist. Or female I don't care.

God that would be the best thing that ever happened. I think the Internet would straight shut down for a couple days.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311757 - 06/05/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I think bill Clinton was a boss.  Jfk fucked literally everyone and Noone seemed to care. Marilyn Monroe etc.  Fuck if I was president I'd have a whole department of dick suckers.

Eh can't think too busy running a country Polish off my knob please. Yes Mr president. I think he got totally jewed anyone in his position would have and has throughout history done the exact same thing. When did we get so against sex.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311770 - 06/05/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Hillary!



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23311872 - 06/05/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hillary is the most qualified and experienced person for the position when directly compared to Bernie and Donald.  That is why.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311882 - 06/05/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311885 - 06/05/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm voting for Trump over Hilary any day.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311891 - 06/05/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I don't even like Bernie. I'm not asking for socialism.  I work hard and I'm pissed that 30% of what I work for is gone. It's why I game the system and get 200$ a month in food stamps. Fuck off. Oh I make 10 an hour. No I make 7. Just the easiest numbers to divide off my head.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311909 - 06/05/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Get us back to capitalism. Dudes a straight scammer. That's exactly what we need. Not pussy foot liberalism or socialism.  Work hard you get fucking paid. If you have to cut corners by all means do. Welcome to 100% of the US history. That's why we're one of the best empires in the world.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311913 - 06/05/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm voting for Trump over Hilary any day.



*Hillary

Many ignorant people would probably vote for Donald over Hillary.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311917 - 06/05/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hill dawg if i only get to pick between the two. Trump will probably get us all killed in a nuclear war.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311922 - 06/05/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Hillary is the most qualified and experienced person for the position when directly compared to Bernie and Donald.  That is why.




Why is her experience a good thing when most of the time she was using her position to do knob jobs for corporations, selling billions in arms to Saudi Arabia, initiating coups in multiple countries, suppressing workers wages in Haiti and lying to everyone about reality as if they wouldn't notice :lol: Are you gullible enough to not know why a politician would have a private server?


Why does this data exist?




And anyway Bernie has been Mayor of Burlington then Senator since 1981... she was secretary of state for 4 years and senator for 8... how exactly does that give her more experience?:lol:


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311925 - 06/05/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Scratch that we are. What the fuck is anyone else going to do about it?  The Russians have shit land. England and Japan own a fucking island. We own an entire continent. I've been all over the US it's diverse as fuck. South America can't get its shit together it's easy pickings in my opinion.

We could easily take it but what resources do they have?  Cocaine? Cheap labor. Africa same deal. I view it as a straight game of risk. The middle east is and has easily been under our control since 2001. China Psh whatever they have a lot of people but there so poisoned by there own countries smog a billion of them will be clamoring to join us.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311927 - 06/05/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't even like Bernie. I'm not asking for socialism.  I work hard and I'm pissed that 30% of what I work for is gone. It's why I game the system and get 200$ a month in food stamps. Fuck off. Oh I make 10 an hour. No I make 7. Just the easiest numbers to divide off my head.



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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311933 - 06/05/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Are you saying trump will lower taxes for the mid to low "working" class?

Because out of those 3 main candidates Bernie seems like the only one who would.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23311941 - 06/05/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Hillary is the most qualified and experienced person for the position when directly compared to Bernie and Donald.  That is why.




Why is her experience a good thing when most of the time she was using her position to do knob jobs for corporations, selling billions in arms to Saudi Arabia, initiating coups in multiple countries, suppressing workers wages in Haiti and lying to everyone about reality as if they wouldn't notice :lol: Are you gullible enough to not know why a politician would have a private server?


Why does this data exist?




And anyway Bernie has been Mayor of Burlington then Senator since 1981... she was secretary of state for 4 years and senator for 8... how exactly does that give her more experience?:lol:



It gives her more experience on account of Bernie never being Secretary of State. 
How much Secretary of State experience does Bernie have relative to Hillary.  None. Thus Hillary has more experience.  It is fairly fucking simple.  Even you should get it.

Bernie comes off as a crazy old man whose agenda sounds good to dreamers, but it's a bunch of unrealistic shit. 
Bernie probably won't even get the nomination, so you are wasting your thoughts and time even thinking about Bernie.  Have fun with that.:lol:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23311956 - 06/05/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You understand how much society benefits you right? Those arnt your roads. You dont own those schools or infrastructure, you dont secure national trade deals. That 30% is the price of being a part of this. You dont wanna pay taxs go rough it in the bush or shutup.

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    #23311957 - 06/05/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Nope lowering taxes doesn't do fuck all for any body. He's a fucking scammer. Getting us back to our American roots. Scamming.  Read a history book. All of them did it through out history. Not pussy footing around like Obama. 8 fucking years and what was accomplished.

Honestly I hope we get the war machine back up and running. The kids who are great at cod are going to be the pilots. As that's all you need these days. Ww2 was the last great War. Fought on the ground.

I bet we could easily sack the rest of the world's key systems with no casualties. America could do it we are the most well funded and technologically advanced country in the world.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23311962 - 06/05/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Nice, good job of totally ignoring her rampant corruption! Again, what does 'experience' matter in sec of state when all she did was spread chaos and destruction across the middle east? Is that what you want the commander in chief to do?

Maybe you should watch this and learn who you're supporting

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    #23311980 - 06/05/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't even like Bernie. I'm not asking for socialism.  I work hard and I'm pissed that 30% of what I work for is gone. It's why I game the system and get 200$ a month in food stamps. Fuck off. Oh I make 10 an hour. No I make 7. Just the easiest numbers to divide off my head.



Not having to pay near as much for private medical insurance would be a huge boon - just cause it's not taxes doesn't mean it isn't something that's necessary and is constantly eating away at your budget.




I have a 200k dollar mouth.  Alaska takes care of Alaskan born kids. I was going to the dentist every 2 weeks.  From 18-19. All of my teeth have been filled twice even. I just told them drill it out anyway. I haven't been to a dentist in 7 years.  A fifth of my teeth are fake. Or have caps on them.

I did that as I hated it but I knew it would cost me 1000s of dollars for what they did. Shut the fuck up and do it. Haven't had a single tooth ache in that time. Alaska is the best state to raise a kid my MA said. They take care of them.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23311983 - 06/05/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Nice, good job of totally ignoring her rampant corruption! Again, what does 'experience' matter in sec of state when all she did was spread chaos and destruction across the middle east? Is that what you want the commander in chief to do?

Maybe you should watch this and learn who you're supporting




I am not ignoring her alleged corruption.  I embrace it.  I love it.

The Middle East is full of chaos and destruction, all of that shit happens without Hillary oh ignorant one.  You think one single person is responsible for the Middle East, LOL.  That does not make any sense. 

That is exactly what I want my Commander in Chief to do. Yes.

I'm not watching any of your propaganda bullshit.
You could tell me that Hillary shot someone in the face in the Middle East and I wouldn't blink an eye while casting my vote for her.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
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twighead said:
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Enjoywho said:
I don't even like Bernie. I'm not asking for socialism.  I work hard and I'm pissed that 30% of what I work for is gone. It's why I game the system and get 200$ a month in food stamps. Fuck off. Oh I make 10 an hour. No I make 7. Just the easiest numbers to divide off my head.



Not having to pay near as much for private medical insurance would be a huge boon - just cause it's not taxes doesn't mean it isn't something that's necessary and is constantly eating away at your budget.




I have a 200k dollar mouth.  Alaska takes care of Alaskan born kids. I was going to the dentist every 2 weeks.  From 18-19. All of my teeth have been filled twice even. I just told them drill it out anyway. I haven't been to a dentist in 7 years.  A fifth of my teeth are fake. Or have caps on them.

I did that as I hated it but I knew it would cost me 1000s of dollars for what they did. Shut the fuck up and do it. Haven't had a single tooth ache in that time. Alaska is the best state to raise a kid my MA said. They take care of them.



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    #23312003 - 06/05/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Enjoywho said:
I don't even like Bernie. I'm not asking for socialism.  I work hard and I'm pissed that 30% of what I work for is gone. It's why I game the system and get 200$ a month in food stamps. Fuck off. Oh I make 10 an hour. No I make 7. Just the easiest numbers to divide off my head.



Not having to pay near as much for private medical insurance would be a huge boon - just cause it's not taxes doesn't mean it isn't something that's necessary and is constantly eating away at your budget.




I have a 200k dollar mouth.  Alaska takes care of Alaskan born kids. I was going to the dentist every 2 weeks.  From 18-19. All of my teeth have been filled twice even. I just told them drill it out anyway. I haven't been to a dentist in 7 years.  A fifth of my teeth are fake. Or have caps on them.

I did that as I hated it but I knew it would cost me 1000s of dollars for what they did. Shut the fuck up and do it. Haven't had a single tooth ache in that time. Alaska is the best state to raise a kid my MA said. They take care of them.



If only your MA had taught you to brush your fucking teeth, LOL.

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    #23312004 - 06/05/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Nice, good job of totally ignoring her rampant corruption! Again, what does 'experience' matter in sec of state when all she did was spread chaos and destruction across the middle east? Is that what you want the commander in chief to do?

Maybe you should watch this and learn who you're supporting




I am not ignoring her alleged corruption.  I embrace it.  I love it.

The Middle East is full of chaos and destruction, all of that shit happens without Hillary oh ignorant one.  You think one single person is responsible for the Middle East, LOL.  That does not make any sense. 

That is exactly what I want my Commander in Chief to do. Yes.

I'm not watching any of your propaganda bullshit.
You could tell me that Hillary shot someone in the face in the Middle East and I wouldn't blink an eye while casting my vote for her.



It's not propaganda bullshit, it's all direct footage of herself :lol:

Do you think that pouring all of our tax money into corporations and military is actually a good thing?

Of course the middle east is chaos - but do you think pouring billions into destabilizing countries and selling arms to other ones is actually a good thing? :lol:

It seems like you're just okay or actually eager for the US to waste the fuck out of its money when it could actively be making our lives better.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23312016 - 06/05/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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It's not propaganda bullshit, it's all direct footage of herself :lol:





I know this will be difficult for you to understand, given your apparently diminished mental capacities, but footage of a person can be edited into propaganda.

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It seems like you're just okay or actually eager for the US to waste the fuck out of its money when it could actively be making our lives better.



I am okay.
You realize that you could be making your own life better rather than posting on the shroomery? But you go ahead and keep doing so, LOL.
You worry about you before you worry about Uncle Sam and Auntie Hillary taking care of your sorry ass.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23312027 - 06/05/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

If trump gets elected it will be the decline of this nation. History will skewer the american public for electing someone so unfit for office. The rest of the world is smart enough to realize how dangerous trump is. When the most evil of criminals in the world like putin and kim jong un endorse donald trump it is some sick world we live in that trump could be president. I would rather have bush as president over trump and i think bush was among the worst of presidents in the last century.

We deserve trump though because we're a fucking stupid and lazy country, it's time we elected one of the people. :shrug:

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23312030 - 06/05/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Why are you mad? :lol: Why aren't you capable of supporting her actions with words instead of ad hominems?

And if propaganda is clearly displaying when someone has publically contradicted themselves over and over in official situations then call it that... but if you cared to research every point made is backed up by significant evidence.


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I don't even like Bernie. I'm not asking for socialism.  I work hard and I'm pissed that 30% of what I work for is gone. It's why I game the system and get 200$ a month in food stamps. Fuck off. Oh I make 10 an hour. No I make 7. Just the easiest numbers to divide off my head.



Not having to pay near as much for private medical insurance would be a huge boon - just cause it's not taxes doesn't mean it isn't something that's necessary and is constantly eating away at your budget.




I have a 200k dollar mouth.  Alaska takes care of Alaskan born kids. I was going to the dentist every 2 weeks.  From 18-19. All of my teeth have been filled twice even. I just told them drill it out anyway. I haven't been to a dentist in 7 years.  A fifth of my teeth are fake. Or have caps on them.

I did that as I hated it but I knew it would cost me 1000s of dollars for what they did. Shut the fuck up and do it. Haven't had a single tooth ache in that time. Alaska is the best state to raise a kid my MA said. They take care of them.



That's good shit.. I think every state should have that sort of support though :awesome:




Denali kid care. Fucking amazing. I never had to worry nor my parents about bills. And that's not even for Alaskan born kids. My sister was born in Washington. My MA just told me when you have kids go back home. They help.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23312035 - 06/05/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Someone did the hard work for you anyway if you care to check the veracity of its points :wink:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/may/20/fact-checking-hillary-clinton-lying-13-minutes-str/

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23312036 - 06/05/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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We deserve trump though because we're a fucking stupid and lazy country,



Speak for yourself.  You deserve Trump because you are something and something.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23312047 - 06/05/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I think it speaks volumes that people have incredibly high moral standards for Hillary and zero standards for trump. The man is a pathological liar, a hypocrite, a scam artist, and has been in thousands of lawsuits. It's because Hillary is a serious candidate for president and trump is a fucking joke on a reality tv show.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23312057 - 06/05/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

And that's exactly why I want him to be president. Getting the US back to our roots. Pick up a history book.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23312065 - 06/05/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I don't deserve trump. I vote. Trump is the product of a highly successful mobilization of tea party voters who have fundamentally changed the republic primary process, while most everyone else are too lazy to be involved and vote.

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    #23312066 - 06/05/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I think it speaks volumes that people have incredibly high moral standards for Hillary and zero standards for trump. The man is a pathological liar, a hypocrite, a scam artist, and has been in thousands of lawsuits. It's because Hillary is a serious candidate for president and trump is a fucking joke on a reality tv show.



They're both ridiculous - I have just as high moral standard for him but his actions can't be said to have led to considerable death and chaos half way around the world either... Both are not worthy of any trust.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23312068 - 06/05/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Someone did the hard work for you anyway if you care to check the veracity of its points :wink:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/may/20/fact-checking-hillary-clinton-lying-13-minutes-str/

The tl;dr is yes... she lies about fucking everything



I'm not clicking or viewing a single image or link you post because it is all bullshit.

The truth is Donald lies too.  Imagine that.  Now you can't like Trump because he is the thing that you say Hillary is.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312072 - 06/05/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Did you know the Clinton's and Trump are good friends. They went to trumps wedding. I honestly think it's a ploy. Every time a hillary scandal comes out notice how Donald says the most ridiculous shit. There in it together. They both win.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23312086 - 06/05/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Someone did the hard work for you anyway if you care to check the veracity of its points :wink:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/may/20/fact-checking-hillary-clinton-lying-13-minutes-str/

The tl;dr is yes... she lies about fucking everything



I'm not clicking or viewing a single image or link you post because it is all bullshit.

The truth is Donald lies too.  Imagine that.  Now you can't like Trump because he is the thing that you say Hillary is.



A Hillary supporter burying their head in the sand? Who would've ever guessed :lol:

Politifact is a very very mild source as far as Hillary grilling goes. They could even be said to be biased in her favor if anything

And I don't fucking like Donald Trump :rofl: I like the candidate that hasn't lied his ass off his entire career.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312090 - 06/05/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Did you know the Clinton's and Trump are good friends. They went to trumps wedding. I honestly think it's a ploy. Every time a hillary scandal comes out notice how Donald says the most ridiculous shit. There in it together. They both win.




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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: twighead]
    #23312093 - 06/05/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I like the candidate that hasn't lied his ass off his entire career.



Bernie?

You like the guy who won't even get the nomination.  Want a cookie?

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    #23312094 - 06/05/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I think it speaks volumes that people have incredibly high moral standards for Hillary and zero standards for trump. The man is a pathological liar, a hypocrite, a scam artist, and has been in thousands of lawsuits. It's because Hillary is a serious candidate for president and trump is a fucking joke on a reality tv show.



They're both ridiculous - I have just as high moral standard for him but his actions can't be said to have led to considerable death and chaos half way around the world either... Both are not worthy of any trust.



Trump is a business man and has never been involved in politics, hillary has been in politics for decades. Give trump the presidency and I'm sure he'll make up for the lost time. He is so belligerent and unpredictable, I wouldn't be surprised if we get into multiple wars. Everyone knows hillary and she is very predictable, hillary would be more of the same bullshit. Trump would be a disaster of epic proportions on every level. For fucks sake he thinks climate change is a chinese conspiracy to tank US business. He's a lunatic.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312096 - 06/05/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I donno I think he truthfully wants the power to himself - nothing means anything to those people... Except money and power which they both have so they'll kiss eachothers buttholes when it suits them.. but I don't think it means much.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: California]
    #23312100 - 06/05/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I like the candidate that hasn't lied his ass off his entire career.



Bernie?

You like the guy who won't even get the nomination.  Want a cookie?



:lolsy:

Hard to talk with you since you live in a completely brainwashed media landscape and are unwilling to educate yourself on anything.

But the retort would be... you like the candidate that's about to be indicted by the FBI? Want a cookie?


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23312109 - 06/05/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't deserve trump. I vote. Trump is the product of a highly successful mobilization of tea party voters who have fundamentally changed the republic primary process, while most everyone else are too lazy to be involved and vote.




"Trump is the product"

Trump is the product of a politically correct culture backlash, the majority of Americans are feed up with this nonsense.

They are feed up with illegals, globalization, foreign wars, and corrupt politicians.

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    #23312113 - 06/05/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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I think it speaks volumes that people have incredibly high moral standards for Hillary and zero standards for trump. The man is a pathological liar, a hypocrite, a scam artist, and has been in thousands of lawsuits. It's because Hillary is a serious candidate for president and trump is a fucking joke on a reality tv show.



They're both ridiculous - I have just as high moral standard for him but his actions can't be said to have led to considerable death and chaos half way around the world either... Both are not worthy of any trust.



Trump is a business man and has never been involved in politics, hillary has been in politics for decades. Give trump the presidency and I'm sure he'll make up for the lost time. He is so belligerent and unpredictable, I wouldn't be surprised if we get into multiple wars. Everyone knows hillary and she is very predictable, hillary would be more of the same bullshit. Trump would be a disaster of epic proportions on every level. For fucks sake he thinks climate change is a chinese conspiracy to tank US business. He's a lunatic.




I say we play our part in the game of risk. Take fucking everything over. Why are we paying billions of dollars for shit that is just sitting there. :shrug: we can easily own all of the world. Submit or raze the city. It's an easy an easy choice.

A lot of people will die.  But so?  The cost of war is sacrifice. Tons of people died at Normandy like 400000. But when you get down to it it's all a numbers game. And 100% can be done by the best cod players in the world. Drones.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312123 - 06/05/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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And that's exactly why I want him to be president. Getting the US back to our roots. Pick up a history book.



LOL our roots? What does that even mean? Do you even know what our roots are? What makes you an authority on that? Certainly not your propensity for nutty conspiracy theories. Does that mean we should bring back slavery too? And a political process that was only for white men?

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312124 - 06/05/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Just give them an Xbox controller that controls such things. Like enders game. Worth a read. My brother will be one of those people top ranked in the world for the past couple cod things. Training simulations.


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    #23312132 - 06/05/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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And that's exactly why I want him to be president. Getting the US back to our roots. Pick up a history book.



LOL our roots? What does that even mean? Do you even know what our roots are? What makes you an authority on that? Certainly not your propensity for nutty conspiracy theories. Does that mean we should bring back slavery too? And a political process that was only for white men?




Were scandalous as fuck. Always have been always will. That's why we own the world. We're fucking liars. We lie to get what we want. If you think your better than the entire country you live in your dead wrong.

Read a history book. Scammed everyone. That's what capitalism is. Why is Donald so rich. Scamming any poor sap that listens to an American that isn't a hippie and is going nowhere. Lieing is something I do well. I'm American. I know our history.


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    #23312135 - 06/05/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Hard to talk with you since you live in a completely brainwashed media landscape and are unwilling to educate yourself on anything.




I don't live in that landscape at all, and I am more educated than you are, so not clicking your shitty links isn't hurting me if clicking your shitty links is what you might consider "educating", LOL.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312143 - 06/05/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

So you dont like socialism yet you brag about the benefits socialized dentalcare has brought you? :facepalm:

Wouldnt it solve a lot of our problems if we just had a ten question quiz to qualify to vote. Itd eliminate bullshit like this instantly.

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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23312164 - 06/05/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I didn't ask for it but I capitalized on it. Fuck yes I did.  My mouth is perfect.  That's called capitalism. I had no clue why it was free so I had everything done. Shut the fuck up dentist drill it out.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312168 - 06/05/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't voted once. Never plan to never will. Only for states rights. What a joke.


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Re: Hillary or Trump? (no stal) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23312173 - 06/05/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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So you dont like socialism yet you brag about the benefits socialized dentalcare has brought you? :facepalm:

Wouldnt it solve a lot of our problems if we just had a ten question quiz to qualify to vote. Itd eliminate bullshit like this instantly.




Oh like the niggers when they got the right to vote. Literacy tests. Your a joke.



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