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Re: George Carlin's Contribution to S&amp;amp;P [Re: Frog]
    #2337924 - 02/15/04 03:22 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

>> I don't believe things can be changed. You would have to get everyone in the world to cooperate, and that ain't going to happen, in my opinion. People are too complacent

But this is the same attitude that got our society to the dismal place it is in the first place, the notion that change must be effected outward, rather than inward.


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Re: George Carlin's Contribution to S&amp;P [Re: Ped]
    #2337977 - 02/15/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

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>> I don't believe things can be changed. You would have to get everyone in the world to cooperate, and that ain't going to happen, in my opinion. People are too complacent

But this is the same attitude that got our society to the dismal place it is in the first place, the notion that change must be effected outward, rather than inward.




Right. I agree. That's why I wrote on another thread that people are too busy helping themselves in ways that are self-centered rather than doing things to help the planet or society.

But people would first have to change internally before they could effect change outwardly. Someone who is self-centered isn't going to altruistically help others.

And I don't believe that people can change. Some can, but most won't. People are inherently lazy.

Think about it: Getting people to be more spiritual on a global basis. I just don't see how that can happen.

I believe in personal change, and growth, and then helping others. Could someone get others to change? If so, how? Who's going to get message out?

When I talk to people about accepting their lot in life, being happy, doing for others in spite of the lack in their own lives, etc., I get looks of disbelief.

Everyone worries about themselves, about what they're going to get, about paying their rent, mortgage, having a nice car, etc. Most people seem unable to see past the tangible materialism of the world.

How do you change the world? I don't think you can. Jesus was here, and was supposedly the Son of God or at least a damned good prophet. Most people in the U.S. believe in God. Is the world a better place? According to the the people on this forum, no. The world sucks, and the U.S. especially sucks.


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Re: George Carlin's Contribution to S&amp;P [Re: Frog]
    #2338020 - 02/15/04 03:49 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Going to add one more thing (or two):

Just because the world is going to hell doesn't mean I get to sit back and do nothing. I believe that even though we don't have to do anything to get into heaven other than believe God and accept Jesus as our saviour, God still looks at the works we performed while we were here. What did we learn.

So, I am doing my best to do my part in my small way to help the world and the people in it. If anyone wants to talk to me about it, I'll share my views with them. But I still don't think the world will change, no matter my part in it.


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Re: George Carlin's Contribution to S&amp;P [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2338125 - 02/15/04 04:25 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: George Carlin's Contribution to S&P [Re: Frog]
    #2338473 - 02/15/04 06:32 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for clarifying, Frog. I see where you're coming from, but I think I'm (going to be) on the mobilisation team. We'll need a lot of doers, so that's where you come in :smile:


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Re: George Carlin's Contribution to S&amp;P [Re: Alan Stone]
    #2338540 - 02/15/04 06:53 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I'm always watching for signs.  I've wondered, as others here have, what the hell I'm doing on a "shroomery" forum.  We'll see what y'all have in store for me, eh?  :grin:


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