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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: T-Rex]
    #23527428 - 08/10/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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you guys can do it.
I did and never thought id be opiate free ever.
SET YOUR MIND TO IT.




Yes!! You can do anything you set your mind to! 22 days for me! It's your choice and yours alone.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23528532 - 08/10/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the encouragement T and Ruy.  I made it through payday, and tomorrow will be a week.  I can't even afford it anyway I got bills and shit that I'm behind on. 

Got some good sativa, whiskey, and still taking kratom 3x/day.  Considering I should still be sick and I feel ok I think I should count my blessings and not fuck it up.

Work is going pretty well, got a paid vacation coming up at the end of August.  Heading to the mountains with my family for camping which I'm pretty excited about.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23530583 - 08/11/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks for the encouragement T and Ruy.  I made it through payday, and tomorrow will be a week.  I can't even afford it anyway I got bills and shit that I'm behind on. 

Got some good sativa, whiskey, and still taking kratom 3x/day.  Considering I should still be sick and I feel ok I think I should count my blessings and not fuck it up.

Work is going pretty well, got a paid vacation coming up at the end of August.  Heading to the mountains with my family for camping which I'm pretty excited about.




Awesome, congratulations!! vacation time sounds like a perfect opportunity to detox! Although camping isn't a great place to detox. I know Imodium works wonders for me during withdrawals, so your not in the bathroom 24/7. Also a week's worth of benzos is a life saver. And some trazadone or ambien is also very helpful! But I will say that methacarbamol is one of the most recent Rx life savers I've used to help me kick the shit! The methacarbamol muscle relaxer really helps with rls! The hard part is finding them, along with the others I mentioned... Nurontin and colonadine are helpful also but I've never used either. If you can get through the first 4 days without kratom you will feel 80% better imo. Use care if you don't have a benzo tolerance, especially if your combining a sleeping med and or muscle relaxer. Also a good little mushroom adventure 2 weeks or so after the withdrawals ( or when you feel almost completely physically better) helped me evaluate my problems and my life in general. You guys can do it! It's the fucking hardest thing I've ever overcome, and that feeling of being in control of your life again is so amazing! And to have family and friends say wow you look so much better... It's a great feeling.  It's the best choice Ive ever made!


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23531789 - 08/11/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah at a full week since my last shot.  Every day I think "tommorow I'm probably going to end up getting some bags" but I haven't yet.  Tomorrow is Friday which will be hard, but  I think I got my head on straight enough to do the right thing.

Wondering how hard it will be to get off kratom.  Yesterday I only took 1TSP 2x/day instead of 3x, but right now I am fairly sure I would relapse if I stopped taking it.

I generally don't take benzos.  When I am sick nothing works but opiates and taking other downers usually makes me feel drowsy but I just can't sleep, like I'm trapped in insomnia hell.  I'm sure some combo would work, but it also could force me to relapse because I feel even worse or lose my good judgement.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23531933 - 08/11/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah at a full week since my last shot.  Every day I think "tommorow I'm probably going to end up getting some bags" but I haven't yet.  Tomorrow is Friday which will be hard, but  I think I got my head on straight enough to do the right thing.

Wondering how hard it will be to get off kratom.  Yesterday I only took 1TSP 2x/day instead of 3x, but right now I am fairly sure I would relapse if I stopped taking it.

I generally don't take benzos.  When I am sick nothing works but opiates and taking other downers usually makes me feel drowsy but I just can't sleep, like I'm trapped in insomnia hell.  I'm sure some combo would work, but it also could force me to relapse because I feel even worse or lose my good judgement.




Very good point about losing judgment taking benzos moonrock! Just trying to help by telling you what's helped me, then again I was a opana/hydromorphone IV user at my worst time, never got into H to much probably because I never heard of it being around. Well 1tsp is better then 1tbsp! If kratom really helps you, just keep doing what your doing, it's so much better then spending a bunch of money on the shit! I took subs for about a year before I used vike 5s to get off suboxone. It definitely help me with money, as I wasn't spending mad money on pills, its also good to get out of the habit of going to your dude everyday, you know? You kinda lose the lifestyle when you use kratom or another alternative. I know how you feel man, and I know you can do it, it's all up to you.
Going on a month and just had a old buddy get out of jail and text me about shit, it was so hard yet felt great to tell him no I'm clean! No doubt you won't feel good if you stop the kratom. Just keep up the good work man! One day at a time.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23534907 - 08/12/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:crazy2: I got out of work and my stomached dropped because I realized I was planning to use, somebody said to me I looked injured while I was thinking that, just trying to piece together what good I could possible get out of it. 

At every exit on the highway I was like magnetized to turn around and head to the city, but I resisted, and now that I'm home I'm glad I did. 

I've been trying to quit for way too long.  It's pathetic.  The number of failed attempts is one of the main things that makes me think I'll never be clean in the long term, but I am optimistic right now.

Oh and it is 1 Tablespoon, a massively heaping one at that.  I thought 1tsp was teaspoon and 1TSP was tablespoon for some reason.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23535110 - 08/12/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:hugitout:


I got clean and will stay clean; now it is your turn moonrockmushy!  Just have some Kratom whenever the cravings and withdrawal gets really bad, don't feel bad or guilty about having to use a benign, safe opioid to get off the harder shit! 

Whenever the cravings get bad (I have no intention of going back to opiates, but I do get temptations to order Kratom) and I am lying in bed feeling like death, I just think of the future and how life will be when I am through most of it! We used opioids to control and depress how we feel; we wanted a solution NOW, you just need to learn to accept you cannot do that anymore and think long term.

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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: daz01]
    #23535947 - 08/12/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome Moon Rock!! Take that thought of how many times you have tried to stop and use it to your advantage! Keep being optimistic, for me it really helps to think positive! Your past is gone, your past does not define who you are, what your doing in the present and the future is what's important, and your getting clean!!! Like dazo said, we used opiates to control and depress our feelings, but that's not reality, are we really living if we are constantly depressing our true feelings? Good or bad? I'm just happy you made it another day! I'm rooting for ya man! Keep your head up! You are doing good!

Change is the law of life. For those who look only to the past and the present are certain to miss the future. JFK


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536040 - 08/12/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey fellow junkies, and ex-junkies I have a question for you!

I am curious when you guys get the itch to buy dope, how hard is it for you to go about doing so?  When I was using I would have to make a 45 minute drive to downtown ATL to buy, but if there was traffic it might take an hour or more, ATL traffic was horrible.  Usually once I was downtown things would go smoothly, and I would pull up on my guys corner, make the deal and keep on moving.

Just curious how easy some of you have it.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Lucis]
    #23536211 - 08/12/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

by dope I'm assuming you mean H, living in central Florida it's actually a pretty rare thing to find shit without driving to ft Lauderdale/ Miami, I had only gotten my hands on it maybe 4 or 5 times in 10 years, then again it's so much easier to obtain an opioid pain med (pretty much anywhere and everywhere) if it's not your mom it's your uncle or buddy's dad ect... A lot of shit goes up north due to the further north the more money it's worth in a way. But yea that's the problem, it's too damn easy to get it for some people. Michigan, Ohio, it's so prevalent, compared to Florida where the demand really isn't there as much because of the opioid pill overflow. I'm 15 min away from blasting off, but that's not stopping me from improving my life. Just gotta say bye to those people!


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536278 - 08/12/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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gotta say bye to those people!





That's exactly what I had to do, the only shitty thing is three of them died from OD, and the others ones are still using, those were like all my friends.

But I have been clean 3 years, had to move states to get away from the dope drama.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Lucis]
    #23536411 - 08/12/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, Congratulations man! I can't wait to be able to say that! I'm 26 days!!! And I really feel so much better! The only difference between now and all the other 20 times is, I actually don't want that life anymore! I have accountability also, which is huge.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536428 - 08/12/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Been on kratom all week since monday, just finished the last few grams of my 50g bag of enhanced leaf


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23536461 - 08/12/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Order some more!! Kratom is your best friend!!!


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536466 - 08/12/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I got a bag of some enhanced green malaysian mixed with some regular maeng da leaf in my room, that will get me through the week end for sure.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23536502 - 08/12/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What's your average dose in the morning or whenever?


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536509 - 08/12/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lately I've been doing 5g roughly every 12 hours, it doesnt give me any high just a mild relaxation. I use it strictly for maintenance.

If I did 10g I could prob get a light buzz going but I dont see the point.

Maybe when I switch over to the other strain I have ill feel something nice since rotating strains helps you get the maximum effects.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23536561 - 08/12/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's why you get the good stuff lol
I know when I used it a few times I had to take at least 10gs to even feel it, then again I got it from a smoke shop.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536598 - 08/12/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The enhanced leaf I just killed off was pretty good


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Lucis]
    #23537100 - 08/13/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Hey fellow junkies, and ex-junkies I have a question for you!

I am curious when you guys get the itch to buy dope, how hard is it for you to go about doing so?  When I was using I would have to make a 45 minute drive to downtown ATL to buy, but if there was traffic it might take an hour or more, ATL traffic was horrible.  Usually once I was downtown things would go smoothly, and I would pull up on my guys corner, make the deal and keep on moving.

Just curious how easy some of you have it.





The city I go to is like 30 mins away.  I can get it any time 9-5 but the dudes don't work nights, so I really just have to make it through the day and then I am cut off until morning. 

Most of the time they are there within a 10 minutes of calling, but occasionally I will have to wait 30 mins or so getting told "any minute" "any minute" "oh he just ran out it is gonna be 20 more minutes" :shakefist: I hate that shit and it is a big reason I am quitting. 

When I lived in the city it would just be a phone call delivered to my door.  It's all cell phones and runners in cars here.  There are open air markets but they are sketchy as fuck and unreliable, so having a number is key.

I almost ran out of kratom too, but I have a kilo on the way.  It's really working splendid.  I'm drinking a decent amount of beer and liquor past couple days, but have pretty much cut out cigarettes.  I just have no taste for them without being faded.


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