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Ruyguy
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: xzylocybin] 2
#23489197 - 07/29/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello everyone, I'm new to this site yet very familiar with the subject, opiates. I'm very proud to say I'm 15 days clean and have a great attitude about succeeding! I've been a oxy/any opiate addict for about 10 years now, I've used and abused pretty much every common drug out there, I've been in the ER OD 3 times, I'm 28 now. I wanted to reach out and not only try to help encourage everyone trying to kick it, but I'm also looking for support, because we all need help!
IMO there is no right way to kick opiates, and to do so without replacing the habit with something else almost seems unfathomable, I've been off and on through my 10 year addiction, about the longest being about 6 months off about 5 years ago. I personally used suboxone to trade my habbit over, after withdrawing off the subs I found that subs are harder to get off of, so recently I actually used Vicodin 5mg to get off subs lol try telling a sub dr about that! the reason for me feeling a lot better about getting off opiates is IMO I went to a psychiatrist and now am on a antidepressant, which has helped the mental aspect of the process. When it comes down to it, it's all about self control and will power, you can do it i anything if you want it bad enough! If anyone wants to talk about there struggle PM me.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
#23490383 - 07/29/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO there is no right way to kick opiates
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
#23490501 - 07/29/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ruyguy said: Hello everyone, I'm new to this site yet very familiar with the subject, opiates. I'm very proud to say I'm 15 days clean and have a great attitude about succeeding! I've been a oxy/any opiate addict for about 10 years now, I've used and abused pretty much every common drug out there, I've been in the ER OD 3 times, I'm 28 now. I wanted to reach out and not only try to help encourage everyone trying to kick it, but I'm also looking for support, because we all need help!
IMO there is no right way to kick opiates, and to do so without replacing the habit with something else almost seems unfathomable, I've been off and on through my 10 year addiction, about the longest being about 6 months off about 5 years ago. I personally used suboxone to trade my habbit over, after withdrawing off the subs I found that subs are harder to get off of, so recently I actually used Vicodin 5mg to get off subs lol try telling a sub dr about that! the reason for me feeling a lot better about getting off opiates is IMO I went to a psychiatrist and now am on a antidepressant, which has helped the mental aspect of the process. When it comes down to it, it's all about self control and will power, you can do it i anything if you want it bad enough! If anyone wants to talk about there struggle PM me.
Welcome! keep on doing what your doing as long as its working!
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: AVShroomer]
#23492191 - 07/30/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks I just wanted to share. I'm glad there's a place where we can support each other!
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
#23492198 - 07/30/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Keep it up brother!
Gonna try to give myself a fresh start on staying off H next month.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23493390 - 07/30/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good! Even if you have to take a maintenance med it's better then the H! 16 days for me, one day at a time.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
#23493904 - 07/30/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was a heroin addict for years. It took me leaving my home Alaska and everything to clean up. I got into drinking though which is something I'm dealing with now. But I'm 3 years clean as of June 12th so about a month ago.
Rough stuff but I would trade alcohol wds for heroin any day. That was a cakewalk. Heroin isn't cheap, everywhere, and socially acceptable.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Enjoywho]
#23494180 - 07/30/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So many people kick junk hit the bottle and burn out instead of fade away from how destructive booze is in comparison to opiates
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23494263 - 07/31/16 12:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Far worse. Far fucking worse. It's a depressant. Far worse.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Enjoywho]
#23519596 - 08/07/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Three days with just Kratom again, doing ok. Works much better than I expected but I tried using for about a week and then jumping back on kratom without tapering and it was quite uncomfortable and I had to get some bags to do at least a little taper.
The shit is fucking repulsive, but it keeps me from being sick and I'm not compelled to replace with alcohol or even weed. Coffee seems to have a huge benefit with kratom, but I don't even try to drink since I know it will give me headaches and no benefits while taking kratom. The two (coffee and kratom) can get me through a day of work without being too miserable. I think the fact that it grosses me out will help not to develop a long-term habit and motivate me to get off.
I'm socially withdrawn and kinda out of it, just slightly anhedonic, but that is nothing compared to cold turkey.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23520955 - 08/08/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, don't worry. When I used Kratom for opiate withdrawal, I hated it but I grew to love the way it made feel and would say I developed a potential for addiction but fortunately I ran out and never clicked the "Complete order" on ordering more.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: daz01]
#23521608 - 08/08/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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daz01 said: Oh, don't worry. When I used Kratom for opiate withdrawal, I hated it but I grew to love the way it made feel and would say I developed a potential for addiction but fortunately I ran out and never clicked the "Complete order" on ordering more.
Kratom IMO has its own set of withdrawals and potential for abuse. It's great for opiate maintenance but it's still hard to stop.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
#23522066 - 08/08/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Been off H all month, coming off poppy tea starting a few days ago been doing small doses of kratom periodically.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23522097 - 08/08/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kratom is definitely addictive, otherwise why else would it work, but for me it is definitely a big step in the right direction. For a while I was set on bouncing between masochism and absolute indulgence. I felt like it was better to be miserable than accept anything less than getting as high as I wanted, so it was heroin or nothing pretty much.
I could probably theoretically be pretty comfortable on like $20/day of heroin, but even that is alot, and no matter what I always end up binging and spending assloads of money in one day. It sucks how much I've spent.
I think I have been borderline overdosing alot lately too. Two times this week I had to go into work and make up excuses because my face was all fucked up. Once from a fall and another time from nodding into the edge of a table all night and making red lines on my forehead that are still kinda visible days later. Also track marks suck in the summertime.
I don't really want to be clean in the long term, and I fear losing all my connex if I stop for too long, but a good long break is due and I am pissed off at the crew I go to for saying 10 minutes and taking much longer, even though they're open every single day without fail and have fire. I would probably not quit if I had people who would be punctual, but my friends all stopped talking to me.
Nice work Conno here's some inspirational music for ya:
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23523056 - 08/08/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Connoisseur said: Been off H all month, coming off poppy tea starting a few days ago been doing small doses of kratom periodically.
LOVE this post Conn. Proud of you. Its a hard habit to kick but life is sooo much better when not a slave to Opiates. And my bad for not texting back the other day. Some family shit needed tending to.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: T-Rex]
#23523058 - 08/08/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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all good brother! how you doing tonight?
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
#23523069 - 08/08/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not bad. Long day at work. High on coke right now trying to type up a proposal for my corporate meeting tomo.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: T-Rex]
#23524241 - 08/09/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got down to feeling okay with 10-20 mg of oxycodone a day. I am considerably less depressed and my sex drive has come back as well, what isn't too pleasant unfortunately because it causes me to waste a lot of time and is a source of unhappiness in my case as well. But I guess it's a good thing because when I was still going strong with pills, I had my testosterone levels checked and they were borderline to needing treatment. Seems better now.
However I still do stupid shit, like eat 3 days pills on one evening yesterday and having to rely on shitty sedating poppy seed tea then.
There are still 7 weeks left until I have to go abroads to university again. I am unsure if I should fully kick or just go on with one pill a day.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
#23525353 - 08/09/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should just stop. 7 weeks isn't even that long, and it would be so much better to be clean. I was clean for 6 weeks around new years and I was not even back at 100% then.
I'm wondering if I will make it through my next payday without using. 5 days on just kratom today and I'm feeling good enough, starting to be a little social again, but I feel like I'm probably gonna be compelled once I have money, which just sucks really.
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23525805 - 08/09/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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you guys can do it. I did and never thought id be opiate free ever. SET YOUR MIND TO IT.
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