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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23467050 - 07/22/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I agree, there have been many fatalities due to heroin cut with fentanyl.

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I know its 1000x worse getting off than dope. I was full aware of that. Id rather be stuck on it than stuck going to the dopeman everyday stealing from family.




Fair trade off really, if it keeps for you stealing then more power to you, it is for this reason I support the methadone program; irrespective of the higher addiction potential.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23475759 - 07/25/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Damn I just want to slam a fat shot bad right now, having issues trying to mend past relationship and my thoughts are consuming me into an anxious wreck. Sometime it feels like its impossible to calm down without drugs.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #23476636 - 07/25/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Drink a beer. I been off poppy tea for 15 days about 1000 gram habit strong seed


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #23477117 - 07/25/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fucked up again recently, did a few bags last night and a gram and a half of some shit a few days ago.

Today I didnt do anything though so im just trying my best to not use.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23477698 - 07/26/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Try not fall back into the negative behavioural patterns man. I'm past a week now and don't plan on scoring anytime soon, when I do, inevitably, I'm going to see if I can manage to keep a bag around without using it.

If I can get strung out like once a month or whatever and keep it to that I wouldn't consider myself to be addicted, and the withdrawal symptoms would be almost non-existent; that is, at least I never noticed them before I started using everyday for extensive periods.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23478167 - 07/26/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm going to see if I can manage to keep a bag around without using it.




Good luck with that, that's not a good idea, but it's your life.  I mean you're denying the energy of addiction by this type of thinking, I think all that have posted in here are addicts, some have come to terms with this, others not so much.

Not trying to be rude, just a thought.  I used to do this a lot, it was like I really wanted to have some dope around, I knew I could master my urges, but in the end I always failed and ended up making excuses why it was OK to do a shot, you're just prolonging your agony.


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If I can get strung out like once a month or whatever and keep it to that I wouldn't consider myself to be addicted, and the withdrawal symptoms would be almost non-existent; that is, at least I never noticed them before I started using everyday for extensive periods.





Again, good luck with that.  You might be able to do this for a bit, but eventually you will fail, you can't deny the animal that heroin is, it's a fucking beast man, a wonderful, soothing, mellow, rip your fucking throat out beast.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Lucis]
    #23478359 - 07/26/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with what you've said, it's very probably I'll slip back into old habits eventually. It's very much an all or nothing drug for most, so it seems.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23478694 - 07/26/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

kratom kratom kratom, you can get high as fuck and nod on kratom, if you have enough to keep redosing it can keep you well through withdrawals


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: xzylocybin]
    #23478895 - 07/26/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Unfortunatley our government banned all the legal psychoactive drugs, I doubt I can even get it anymore. I do agree, it seems to be really useful in that respect.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23478926 - 07/26/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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...I'm going to see if I can manage to keep a bag around without using it.
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:yeahthatsfunny: I plan to do this every time.  I can't even save my cottons for the morning though, its not gonna happen.

I'm 48hrs in so far and kratom has been helping a bunch.  It definitely doesn't get me high whatsoever, still got the yawns and some lethargy but that is about my worst symptom.  Don't know why I didn't get some sooner, really makes a world of difference.  Mostly it was hard to wrastle up the $20-$30 because I was spending $100 every other day on dope.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23488119 - 07/29/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

moonrock, what size dose of krat does it take for you personally to stave off your withdrawals?


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23488157 - 07/29/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

One heaping tablespoon seems to do it.  If I take two tablespoons in a short period I start to feel a little icky.

I wouldn't recommend this to anyone else starting kratom.  Best to start small and revise because taking too much kratom at once is very unpleasant.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23488160 - 07/29/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How much do you think that weighs? I've experimented with Kratom several times for w\ds with mixed results. Lately i have ben getting pretty minor relief and I'm thinking I just need to up my dosage.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23488163 - 07/29/16 03:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just go up in small amounts till you find the proper amount


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23488164 - 07/29/16 03:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno I have heard a level tablespoon is 6 or 7 grams (from here http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html) so mb 10 g.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23488817 - 07/29/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

it is easier to weigh the kratom powder into gram capsules and take it that way, the dosage is specific to your personal chemistry but I would start with a few grams at least and redose every half hour or so until you are where you want to be, I like about 5g but some people take more like 10-15 for opiate withdrawal. But yea start small or it can cause nausea


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: xzylocybin]
    #23489056 - 07/29/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have used 7-8g in the past with ok results, but I have this enhanced 10x stuff I got from a friend of mine, I have been dosing approx. 3-3.5 g of that and It helps with the majority of physical symptoms, but the mental anxiety and craving is still through the roof.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23489095 - 07/29/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

eating fatty comfort foods and sweets help, getting sun and going on walks/hikes helps a lot (though sucks ass at first and get ready to sweat buckets)

the anxiety and depression are often at least partially due to vitamin deficiencies and being sedentary from the addict lifestyle, and your endogenous opioids/receptors being worn out, just quitting the opiates most times isn't enough to get healthy and happy


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23489099 - 07/29/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I have used 7-8g in the past with ok results, but I have this enhanced 10x stuff I got from a friend of mine, I have been dosing approx. 3-3.5 g of that and It helps with the majority of physical symptoms, but the mental anxiety and craving is still through the roof.




Take some DPH with it to potentiate it


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23489127 - 07/29/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I eat regular meals and take vitamins/supplements daily as well as exercise, i take my dog on bike ridesdaily as well as take her to the park for training. Not disagreeing with that statement in general, but my physical health is something I have managed to maintian.

when I am in w/d I plan to try my best to take the dog out every day, and I also work a pretty physical job. That will be hard to make it through.
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I have used 7-8g in the past with ok results, but I have this enhanced 10x stuff I got from a friend of mine, I have been dosing approx. 3-3.5 g of that and It helps with the majority of physical symptoms, but the mental anxiety and craving is still through the roof.




Take some DPH with it to potentiate it



yup I take dph to potentiate all opis


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