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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: T-Rex] * 1
    #23446493 - 07/16/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Been taking kratom since last friday when it came in, havent done a shot since! I suggest u guys try Kratom, shits a miracle.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: T-Rex]
    #23446498 - 07/16/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

And I'm on day 8 without any bupe.
The withdrawals were nothing compared to full agonist cold turkey.
Suboxone is a great tool if used properly with a set taper regime.
The benzos help a lot lately though because insomnia is the only symptom i still have.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: T-Rex]
    #23450903 - 07/17/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I found early on in my opiate addiction I could still force myself to go to work/school while withdrawing but I was still miserable.




My friend and I were dope sick as fuck, we both moved the sheriff of a major county into his new home while this way, he gave us each a $100 tip, we took the work van downtown to get dope after we finished.:lol:

At that point in my life I had been using a very long time, so just accepted the pain as a mild drawback.  I always found the staying busy while dope sick, really took your mind off of it.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Lucis]
    #23450939 - 07/17/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That is key, your right. Sitting in bed dwelling about being sick makes it 100X worse.
Just going out for a drive makes the withdrawal subside a bit.Amazing what the mind can do to the body.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: T-Rex]
    #23453330 - 07/18/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I know what you're saying, I've been forcing myself to do pull ups and stuff, takes your mind off the physical dysphoria. I'm currently taking pregabalin to ease the withdrawal, it's all I have access to at the moment but actually works quite well.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner] * 1
    #23453391 - 07/18/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

has anyone actually tried the trainspotting method? Have someone lock you in a room with food/TV/water/shit buckets/everything you need for a week or two


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: xzylocybin]
    #23453400 - 07/18/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"Relinquishing junk. Stage one, preparation. For this you will need one room which you will not leave. Soothing music. Tomato soup, ten tins of. Mushroom soup, eight tins of, for consumption cold. Ice cream, vanilla, one large tub of. Magnesia, milk of, one bottle. Paracetamol, mouthwash, vitamins. Mineral water, Lucozade, pornography. One mattress. One bucket for urine, one for feces and one for vomitus. One television and one bottle of Valium, which I've already procured from my mother, who is, in her own domestic and socially acceptable way also a drug addict. And now I'm ready. All I need is one final hit to soothe the pain while the Valium takes effect".


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23453481 - 07/18/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I know what you're saying, I've been forcing myself to do pull ups and stuff, takes your mind off the physical dysphoria. I'm currently taking pregabalin to ease the withdrawal, it's all I have access to at the moment but actually works quite well.



Yeah I take Gabapentin and it helps quite a bit.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: xzylocybin]
    #23453789 - 07/18/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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has anyone actually tried the trainspotting method? Have someone lock you in a room with food/TV/water/shit buckets/everything you need for a week or two



No because that's a hollywood dramatization based on opiate withdrawal.
Most opiate addicts have responsibilities or other things to take care of in life.
Its not as simple as locking yourself in a room for 7 days and your cured.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: T-Rex]
    #23460408 - 07/20/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I've done the trainspotting method.  I find the key part is the breaking down at the last second to go and get one more hit to take the edge off.  There's really no preparing for a c/t kick.  Music and porn is pretty essential to me, so having the internet is nice, and replaces the TV porn etc.  I never shit in a bucket it's always either a toilet or occasionally my drawers if things are really bad.

Ended up puking all over myself going to cop on Sunday.  Did I turn around to change my pants which looked like I pissed myself?  Of course not I have my priorities in order.  Juan-Pepe even threw me an extra bag, must have felt bad for me.  I did make it five days, but I wasn't getting any better and going to work Monday morning scared me too much.

I don't know what I'm going to do.  I think I'm going to try and taper down and switch to kratom after skipping a few days because I just can't get clean and work at this point.  Fuck that happened fast.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23460617 - 07/20/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Kratom is amazing man.
If it weren't for Kratom, I doubt I'd have had the balls to even attempt the detox with nothing else to help.
I'd use Kratom for the first 7 to 14 days when it's at its worse then stop all opioid use and just learn to deal with PAWS.
I used Kratom for around 12 days and just stopped (I actually ran out of Kratom) and I felt great. It got me through the worse.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: daz01]
    #23460903 - 07/20/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Kratom is amazing man.
If it weren't for Kratom, I doubt I'd have had the balls to even attempt the detox with nothing else to help.
I'd use Kratom for the first 7 to 14 days when it's at its worse then stop all opioid use and just learn to deal with PAWS.
I used Kratom for around 12 days and just stopped (I actually ran out of Kratom) and I felt great. It got me through the worse.



Fucking kills me to think how they've banned it in the UK when I hear success stories like that. I used it for about the same time period on my last big opiate WD. Can't say I felt 'great' afterwards (PAWS?) but it eased my suffering a fucking shit load.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23461130 - 07/20/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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daz01 said:
Kratom is amazing man.
If it weren't for Kratom, I doubt I'd have had the balls to even attempt the detox with nothing else to help.
I'd use Kratom for the first 7 to 14 days when it's at its worse then stop all opioid use and just learn to deal with PAWS.
I used Kratom for around 12 days and just stopped (I actually ran out of Kratom) and I felt great. It got me through the worse.



Fucking kills me to think how they've banned it in the UK when I hear success stories like that. I used it for about the same time period on my last big opiate WD. Can't say I felt 'great' afterwards (PAWS?) but it eased my suffering a fucking shit load.




:feelsbadman: Damn law. I was one of the lucky ones to get the chance to use Kratom to help myself.... now others won't.

I felt great because I got away with so much pain and torment like not having insomnia for a week straight, not being stuck in the bathroom 24/7 with it coming violently out both sides and not feeling like I wanted to take a knife to my throat.


PAWS fucking sucks but its bearable and although I feel bad, I am now enjoying life how I should be, such as eating healthily, exercising and enjoying life without any substances.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: daz01]
    #23461149 - 07/20/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's great to hear Daz.  This is encouraging!


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: daz01]
    #23461156 - 07/20/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I felt great because I got away with so much pain and torment like not having insomnia for a week straight, not being stuck in the bathroom 24/7 with it coming violently out both sides and not feeling like I wanted to take a knife to my throat.



Ah yes. Comparatively good.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23466673 - 07/22/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just stumbled upon this thread! So glad theres a place here for us opiate addicts!

I Been away from shroomery for a good few years cause of my struggles with heroin. Its been a really rough road the past 6 years Id go a year using heroin everyday and than try and kick and get a couple weeks clean than end up relapsing again and again and again. It felt like its been a never ending cycle of trying to be well.

In oct of last year I finally decided to go and try methadone out. It was literally my last chance if this wasn't gonna keep me off the street I was about to just give it all up on living a good life. Thankfully a month or so into getting into the clinic I finally was able to shake the routine of getting up and heading straight to the dopeman in the morning before I went on with my day. I really don't care what some people think about methadone. Its about survival for me now and if that's what its gonna take for me to stay off the street away from all the shadiness and the shit way of life I was living than that's what I am gonna do. I tried rehabs, cold turkey detoxes, buying subs off the street to get clean with, and I never lasted more than 6 weeks without going back out. The clinic to me is a godsend right now.
  Now since I have some time off the heroin I have been able to finally start to find myself again. Slowly but surely I'm getting my hobbies back like collecting comics, Gaming, reading, writing, and since may I have even quit smoking cigs and skateboarding again! I haven't been this happy since I was in my early 20s!
 
  That's the short version of my story of addiction. It feels good to be back here and be able to talk about my struggles. We are all blessed to still be here I wouldn't wish opiate addiction on my worst enemy that's forsure.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23466683 - 07/22/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just be mindful man, methadone weakens your bones and has a worse withdrawal. But hey, if you need it to avoid robbing people etc then go ahead.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23466702 - 07/22/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I know its 1000x worse getting off than dope. I was full aware of that. Id rather be stuck on it than stuck going to the dopeman everyday stealing from family and possibly dieing from the surge in fent dope that's been going around my area. Its killed 3 friends of mine since I been out the dope game. That's what scares me the most that fent dope around here has been hella bad!! One day you can go down the the dope spot and get some normal shit the next you can get shit that will put you on the floor. Whoever is cutting the shit with that is seriously evil imo! I was never a big fan of the feeling fent gave me either its to short acting imo..


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23466929 - 07/22/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I had developed a one and a half year habit of oral oxycodone 40 mg a day and while I'll spare you the details, I've tapered to 10 and ran out today.
This has to stop, I'm so sick of being depressed.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
    #23466967 - 07/22/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I had developed a one and a half year habit of oral oxycodone 40 mg a day and while I'll spare you the details, I've tapered to 10 and ran out today.
This has to stop, I'm so sick of being depressed.





  Whatever you do try as hard as you can to get off the oral habit before it gets worse! Its easier said than done I know but if I woulda stopped for good my first year addicted to opiates when I was snorting the old red 10 mg opanas it would have been easier than what it progressed to that's forsure. I remember when they switched the formula to the opanas and was so upset that they weren't snortable like the old 10s I was able to get. That's when I started sucking on fent patches for a short while and in that time got introduced to snorting heroin and it was a wrap after that 4 months or so into snorting I said the classic words everyone says when they start snorting dope that they "will never IV to gradually telling myself ay I'm spending so much money everyday and not getting high why not IV once in awhile to save money just keep it at a special occasion thing ya know" ;p I was in for years of insanity now looking back I don't know how I came up with so much loot everyday just to keep me well it baffles me!
  Best of luck to you my friend!!!


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