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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ibex-Trismegistus]
    #24835004 - 12/08/17 11:17 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I say do or take whatever you need to get to where you can live again. I've been on opiates chronically since 1995. There is not a pharmaceutical opiate I have not tried. I am very familiar with withdrawal and all the other difficulties pertaining to opiate use and this is my advice.

If you are on short acting opiates you have a better chance in my opinion of kicking the habit. Physical Withdrawal symptoms from short acting opiates like morphine, Percocet, roxy's, etc. Last 10-14 days max. After 14 days you will feel good and staying clean will become your new problem. That's where staying away from people places and things where you used is very important.

Long acting opiates like methadone, suboxone, subutex. They are the real demons to kick. Withdrawal from methadone is several months long once your body becomes used to it. Buprenorphrine withdrawal is just as bad as anything else. My methadone withdrawal lasted 6 months and I never completely made it with  subutex/suboxone.

Methadone allowed me to have a more quality life, but if you ever plan to stop taking it, do not increase your dosage to more than you need to keep withdrawl away. If you do, you will fall into an ever deepening hole.

Ultimately, if you haven't any pain or real reason to keep using and you want to get clean. Short acting opiates are easier to kick than long acting.  The total time to recovery is drastic between the two when going cold turkey from short acting and long acting opiates. Short acting opiate withdrawl comes on faster and is over quicker than long acting drug withdrawl.
How you do it isn't important. Live life the best you can and don't let societies hypocrites get you down. We all are addicted to something, be it drugs, alcohol, sex, whatever, we all have problems. Good luck and keep thinking positive.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
    #25144227 - 04/16/18 07:53 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Withdrawal is what keeps most people in that nasty cycle of active addiction. You are experiencing a false happiness, it will get to the point that your will have to take large dangerous doses to get the same effect.

I strongly recommend that you do some serious introspection and find out why your turning to a drug to be happy. Something is wrong with your reasoning if you seriously think drugs are what you need to be happy.

Take it from someone that suffers from severe chronic pain, opiates and drugs that act on the same receptors as opiates will overtime make your life a living hell. Save yourself some misery and correct what it is making you unhappy; don't fall for the seduction of the opiate  beast.

                      Best of luck


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: egodeathflux]
    #25157089 - 04/22/18 07:40 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Not speaking the language isn't a barrier at all. I would like to try Ibogaine myself, but I can't afford to go Mexico or Canada for a week plus treatment cost. Kicking a 200+mg twice a day methadone habit seems impossible to me any other way.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: egodeathflux]
    #25157914 - 04/22/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I'm on both, liquid in the morning, pills in the evening.  Pills seem to hold me longer.

I was told recently that the U.S. intends to phase methadone out over the next 10yrs and replace it with buprenorphrine (suboxone and subutex), it doesn't work for me.

I went through a 6 month withdrawal from the methadone and gave the buprenorphrine another 6 months with no relief. It scares the shit out of me to think I may have zero options someday other than checking out.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Mush 4 Brains] * 1
    #25563831 - 10/24/18 03:29 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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17 days clean, almost feeling human.



I hope you are still hanging in there, if so, when the urge to use comes back and it will, remember what you went through to get clean, call someone, do anything other than use.

I have hope for you,  personally I feel forever trapped in my addiction, dope sickness isn't the only thing that keeps me using, severe pain is an every day fact of life for me and nothing can be done for me but dope.  My doc told me that there is a bill in the house of representatives that will limit opioid use to terminally ill patients only, if that happens I feel my only option is a bullet.

Living with a real medical condition and acquiring an opiate addiction from it is like living in a nightmare. There was a time I could get more meds than I really needed,  now I've learned to live with taking enough medication to make the pain tolerable instead of chasing the nod.

The problem now is that the doctors in my area have been forced to cut back on prescribing,so, instead of getting just enough to get by, now
I get just enough to keep me from being dope sick and get no pain relief, if I do get relief it's not noticeable most of the time.

Just think about my situation and think about recreational use. What are you going to do if you end up in my shoes and you have a huge habit already? People commit suicide over shit like this and it's a real problem. There may come a day when you really need it.

I'm praying for all of you suffering in and out of active addiction, I know what you are going through, I feel your struggle 1st hand, the only advice that I can give you about getting clean is this; If you are on a short acting opiate like heroin, lortab, percocet etc. Suck it up and be sick 10-20 days and be done with it, but if you fuck up and go to the methadone clinic, you will start a whole new nightmare.

I've been on methadone for about 18-20 years,  managed to quit with subutex for 2 years once, it took 6 months before I could sleep more than 2 hours a night.  The subutex helped a lot but then it was just another habit that you will have to eventually detox from if you want to be clean. My pain level during this 2 year period was unbearable, I began to have suicidal thoughts daily and decided it was dope or  a bullet.  Since I couldn't do that to my young children I chose dope again. Now, laws have changed, my legal fix is about to be taken away and I fear the pain, I know what comes next if I can't get relief and my children are now grown. If you have ever experienced severe pain that never stops,  you know what I'm talking about.

If you just can't get clean and need help, the Methadone clinic is a great option, but  if you are on short acting opiates and you have no  health concerns, stay away from the long acting opiates or you may never get away. Best wishes to everyone.

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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #25564633 - 10/24/18 08:28 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a med condition that requires me to iv infuse medication, it's a special kind of hell. I have chronic pain, nasty arthritis in both ankles and other issues.

Honestly gonna try the methadone route, I think mndfreeze and you are on to something. I did relapse and felt awful for it.

tell you the truth I have no idea how I'm still alive after all I've been through



If you do go to methadone,  keep it to a minimum,  don't try to get high from it, methadone clinics have more freedom to prescribe but chronic pain doctors can't prescribe the same amount. I am stuck at 80mg a day with chronic pain doctors, but I'm not tired to a clinic every day I can get more than a weeks take out, but the downside is that you will hit the max dose with pain doctors it will never be increased past it, then you're in pain but not dope sick.

Another thing to consider once you are on methadone, other narcotics will not work for you until you detox for a week.

Mindfreeze is absolutely right, that's why I didn't do it years ago, it would be easier now because my children are grown and they know how I suffer severely at times with meds. we have talked about this recently. I needed them to understand why I would do it, it still would be hard for them but at least they are old enough to understand why.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: mndfreeze]
    #25571500 - 10/27/18 01:04 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Methadone clinics work if you really want it too.  You need to plan your recovery to take a long time and not rush it. The people who succeed the most with clinic settings are the ones who dont put a timeline on conplete opiate cessation and do a gradual step down process.  I maxed out on my methadone dose fairly quick because they let you so you can match your habit and that definitely made it take exponentially longer to taper off of but had I not done that i may have relapsed chasing relief that was more in my head than my body.

Therapy/counseling is also important.  Definitely do not discount the success rates of a clinic if you are really ready for a change.



I agree 100% Methadone can absolutely be a life saver, especially if you just can't stop using.  The detox is a hundred times worse than short acting opiates and that is probably my only issue with it.

I am on high doses of blood thinners and I can not stop them for any reason due to a rare blood disorder, not even for surgery  and it has limited my treatment options for pain management.  I truly believe I could beat the addiction or abstinence syndrome whatever you want to call it, if I could get away from the pain.  My brain injury has caused me to drag my right side  which causes my spine to twist and muscles to atrophy resulting in constant pain.

When I speak of pain, I not talking about being sore, stiff, or aching, I am talking about real pain that is debilitating, constant and has so many forms that it amazes me we can hurt in so many ways. If you have ever had a toothache that made you attempt to pull the tooth yourself to make it stop, that's the kind of pain I'm referring to, it makes you desperate.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: olson]
    #25600601 - 11/08/18 10:19 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I've had mixed results using p. Cubensis during acute withdrawal. During the trip I was fine, it was the come down where shit can get crazy. Sometimes the symptoms were exacerbated and other times it was really helpful, sleep still eluded me  and rls was a pain in the ass.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: trvptamine]
    #25772522 - 01/27/19 03:25 PM (5 years, 1 day ago)

Kratom is just feeding the beast, it sounds to me like you are trying to justify to yourself why you should just give up and keep using.

I'm as fucked up as it gets, so who am I to tell you what to do,but it seems to me like you have come a long way and are standing on the edge thinking of jumping back in, hang in there.
If you no longer have withdrawal symptoms, stop fucking with the kratom, you are playing with fire and you know it. You can do it, I believe in you and you are already loved more than you know.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: trvptamine]
    #25831280 - 02/23/19 01:14 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I like what you said about being about meaning. I want my meaning to be a music producer. To make music that people can relate to and that makes them happy.

Drugs have helped me stay up for days and make music, but theyve also not let me get out and do the things I need to do to become better.



I don't know how old you are but I assume your 20 something, it will eventually get to the point that music doesn't matter, nor does sex or anything else but your drug of choice. Life becomes about chasing dope to keep from getting sick and it's an endless cycle. I wish you the best and pray nothing ever happens to where you HAVE to  have dope. I've had a couple strokes and that has caused me much physical pain and now I'm a junkie in pain and that's a real fucking nightmare. Withdrawal is a mother fucker on its own but you add in a medical condition that causes pain and it's a suicidal fucking time bomb my friend.

I'm sharing my heartache with the world so that maybe,  just maybe one person will read this and it will make a difference,  some  how. I never had a drug problem until I got sick and now the law tells the doctor what I can have and how much, not giving a damn about how it affects me and everyone like me.

My point is, if you can live without using, do it. This ain't no fucking joke,  it starts out fun and turns into pure evil.

Now, I'm not saying all drugs are bad. Marijuana and psilocybe mushrooms are the only safe drugs out there in my opinion.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #25847418 - 03/02/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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trvptamine said:
Not this guy again...
@RJ Tubs
I do accept the fact that im making a choice. I know its my choice whether I continue on using or not.
I do want to quit completely, and Ive come a long way toward my goal of doing that and maybe also fallen a bit away from the goal again as well.




So you see your situation isn't black and white and you don't 100% want to quit?

You say (1) "at the rate im using at the moment I dont see much harm in it."

And (2) "I know what Ive been doing lately isnt smart."

Are those two perspectives congruent with each other . . . or in conflict?



Good question

So, you know you're fucking up but you feel like you got this shit, in reality you're just prolonging the inevitable. I thought I could use just like you do, it's now been 14years  since I was last clean and now I have a serious medical condition that causes me severe pain that is intensified by withdrawal symptoms. If you can quit, do yourself a favor and quit.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #25861884 - 03/08/19 08:44 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Sometimes a tat can be just as bad for employment, think long and hard about what to get. Best of luck to you.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #25955176 - 04/25/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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What's up fellow junkies. I have been away from shroomery for over a year now. I lost my phone with all my acct info and couldn't remember my passwords or passwords to the email addys used to recover my passwords SMH. So I quit the forums for a while.

While I've been away I made and lost progress with getting off opiates (heroin primarily) I went to detox twice, then had 4 months clean, doing great before fucking up. I'm now fully physically addicted to IV heroin, though functioning with a decent job, home, and happy relationship with my girlfriend.

I actually decided to do what I always said I wouldn't. - I am waiting on my Dr. appointment to get on subs..

That's my update for anyone who cares, I Dont know if yall are any of the same people that was on here a year or 2 ago when this thread was made - crazy it is still going! - what happened to connoisseur? I see he is banned. Him and I were pretty good friends. I haven't talked to him in a long time and I feel bad. Anyone know the scoop on him?



Welcome back, I just realized I was posting anonymously and I don't give a shit who knows, if anything I say is useful to a fellow struggler, I say "good".

I have struggled with opioids for many years (over 20 for what it's worth), my struggle comes from chronic illness, if I was hooked purely from recreational use and knowing what I know about long and short acting opioids, using a long acting opiate to get off of short acting opiates should be done with the smallest dose for the very minimum amount of time.

I have experience with both methadone and Buprenorphine, trust me when I say that withdrawal from long acting opioids like the two mentioned is way more difficult than being sick for 10-14 days detoxing from short acting opioids like heroin and oxycodone or hydrocodone.

My methadone withdrawal while taking buprenorphine lasted 6 months, it was better than 6 months with no buprenorphine.  Sleep only came for 2hrs a night the first 6 months,  night sweats that soaked the bed like I pissed myself, massive body load. The only things I didn't have was restless legs, vomiting and diarrhea.

When I quit taking percs, oxy,junk like that, I was sick 10 days, by day 14 I was well but physical pain kept me going back.

After years and years of bullshit I have settled on the methadone clinic, but I have to make it until the 3rd of May, it's going to be a nightmare but I don't fuck with street dope like H.

I wish you all the best my cosmic brother, you can beat this shit,  figure out why you are abusing your self and fix it, this is definitely a life or death situation and life is worth living, especially if you can still walk and talk all on your own.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #25957112 - 04/26/19 03:14 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Noone knows what happened to connoisseur? Or where he may've gone?



Im sorry my friend,  I don't know,  didn't realize he was banned


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #25970655 - 05/03/19 06:24 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Thnk you for sharing the fate of Mush 4 Brains, unfortunately, this is a sad side effect of this disorder and the only thing I feel NA got right: Jails, institutions and Death, you are guaranteed 1 or more of those when living in active addiction.

All though the methadone clinic is a pain in the ass in the beginning,  it's the best decision I have made. Street dope was never really a thing for me, but man the prescription shit had me twisted and is just as dangerous with the exception of knowing exactly what and how much I was taking with the pharmaceuticals.

Mush 4 Brains seemed like the kind of person I could have gotten along with really well, he will be missed. I'm sure if he could speak to us now, he would tell us all to do whatever it takes to free ourselves from this tragic trap, thanks to everyone that shared their methadone clinic experiences, you know most likely saved my life and I am very thankful for each and every one of you sharing your struggle, it does make a difference.

Best wishes and good vibes,
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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Doc9151]
    #25970672 - 05/03/19 06:36 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Noone knows what happened to connoisseur? Or where he may've gone?



I was going through the thread and saw what happened with connoisseur, he asked for his account to be permanently banned for some reason,  it was 5-6 months back. It's on page 32.

Edit: I'm hoping he found peace and is just getting away from old habits and temptations, think that's what dude meant by saying he found god.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #25977508 - 05/07/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I have to say that I am in a much better place today, the Doc at the clinic cleared me to take my dose to where I need it and that I could get a medical marijuana card if I wanted.

The other clinic in my area is fucked up, you can't take anything over the counter like cold remedies or take prescription medications like marinol, xanax, valium,  marijuana and they only take you up 10 mg every 3-4 days. The one I'm going to let's me go up 10mg a day.

If you really feel like you can't stop using,  go to the clinic,  let them help you,  it's not something that is terrible, a little inconvenient at first but you won't be chasing dope or getting dope sick anymore,  not to mention the cash you will save.

My habitat on the outside was easily $500 a day, I now pay $480 a month and am getting to a dose that keeps me comfortable and feeling normal. No need  to feel embarrassed about going to the clinic either, I had all kinds of fears until some of you shared your experiences with me and now I can see it was the best thing for me.

Stay safe my brothers and sisters, I love each one of you and know/understand your struggle with dope. Get Help, don't become another victim of the beast.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: mndfreeze]
    #25992101 - 05/14/19 11:41 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Mindfreeze, Have you tried microdosing for the depression, it has really been a blessing for me, now that I'm on the methadone clinic things have gotten way better
I went from 200-400mg of methadone a day, down to 100mg and life is good for the most part. I too have pain issues and had to come to the realization that I have to live with a certain amount of physical pain in my life and that I can not take so much medication, that I feel no pain at all. I now know that I can live a normalish life, even with the pain.  It was finding that balance that is/was the hard part.
The nurses at the clinic keep asking me if I want to raise my dose and I'm able to say no, that's progress for me.

Mindfreeze,  my big brother jumped off methadone at 2mg, he had some symptoms for a few days to a week but he said it was much better than jumping off at 10mg, he made it several years until he fell from the neighbor's hay loft in the barn and broke his back,  now he's fighting a different battle.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: mndfreeze]
    #26003967 - 05/20/19 05:25 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I agree that tomorrow will be the tell tale day for you, I can usually make it 36hrs before dope sickness kicks in,  but I hope it is very mild if anything for you.

I agree with you on everything you said, the methadone clinic has been a blessing for me, my doctors wouldn't give me what I needed as far as the methadone goes but they would pile on the oxycodone and I hate that stuff, methadone has made me feel normal, but the withdrawal is the worst thing I've ever experienced and I could never make my scripts stretch the month due to tolerance issues.

Now, things are much better, especially now that the clinic is letting me get a weed card to make up for when my dose start waning in the evening. I can smoke 2 grams of quality bud and I don't need anything else.

Opiates are definitely the worst choice someone could make to treat mental health issues, it would be much better to face whatever it is that is causing problems than ending up with an opiate addiction.

Unfortunately,  mental health treatment is like standing down range and the doc using a medication shotgun to see what happens.

Mindfreeze, I'm sending you all the good vibes that I can muster my friend,  you got this, stay strong.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Toxic enigma]
    #26018088 - 05/28/19 11:09 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Welcome to the shroomery's opiate addict support group, we have some wonderful people here that really do care.

The drug dreams are normal and they will go away, the biggest problem is thinking that you got this under control and use again. For some reason, we seem to forget the hell we went through during detox and we use again.

My personal experience has been that each time I quit, then went back to using, my habit increased 10 fold each time and so did the withdrawal symptoms and the time using increased as well, it took 10 years from when I started using again to get back into sobriety.

As far as the sleep situation is concerned,  try exerting yourself during the day, do as much as possible and it will help you sleep better.  Most people feel so shitty that they don't do anything to exert themselves and they end up with a lot of pent up energy, even though you don't feel energetic.

Taking up a hobby is the best thing you can do to keep yourself occupied. My next suggestion is to find someone that you trust, tell them what you are going through and ask them for help. When you start getting the itch to use (it will happen) this is the person that you need to be around until the desire passes. Someone that won't cave in to your desires to use and someone that doesn't use themselves or that will get aggravated and leave you alone. I like to go camping when I feel like this,  far enough away to where I can't easily gain access to my drug of choice.

Now, you also need to identify why you were using in the first place. Are you self medicating a mental or physical illness? You mentioned depression and anxiety disorders, have you ever addressed those issues with a professional? Have you ever tried micro-dosing psychoactive mushrooms or LSD?

I have issues with depression and anxiety that was caused by a couple strokes that left me partially paralyzed on my right side, micro-dosing Psilocybe cubensis has worked better for me than anything ever prescribed by a doctor. You can do a few half pint jars using the pf tek to grow enough mushrooms for a years worth of medicine. If you have schizophrenia, I do  NOT recommend any psychoactive drugs whatsoever.

Well,  hopefully you will get passed this and realize that you don't need to get high to enjoy life, if you need someone to talk to, feel free to message me anytime or post here in this thread.

Best wishes,
Doc Lingo


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