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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23355821 - 06/17/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

5 weeks clean (minus a dose of kratom).


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23355868 - 06/17/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks! I was only into codeine and tramadol which is mild compared to what others here are dealing with. Things do start looking up by the start of the second month though.The yawns and the fatigue really do lessen.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: egodeathflux]
    #23665392 - 09/21/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's incredibly frustrating that I can never seem to pass the 2 month mark.
Once I get a month clean the idea of taking opiates just seems so appealing. Not even cravings but just an abstract feeling of curiosity and boredom.
It's like the more time passes the less threatening and more benevolent opiates seem.
I'm 2 weeks clean but I already feel myself wanting to dip my toes in once again...


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23665496 - 09/21/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly, once you even entertain the notion you're halfway to a relapse. Addiction is a strange beast that we still know so little about.
It's as if I'm most vulnerable when I think of scoring as just a holiday from the daily round as opposed to an escape from suffering. Seems pretty paradoxical.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23680464 - 09/26/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
I mean focusing on one thing, quitting opiates, is relatively easy compared to managing your life in a way that will change who you are enough so that you don't freak out and run back to opiates the first time you get bored/lonely/sad/angry/anxious/depressed.  Those are just things that are probably going to be part of your life. 






That's definitely true in my experience. I think PAWS is mostly psychological. It isn't even a DSM recognized disorder so I wouldn't worry too much about physiological changes in your brain as a result of long term opioid use. There are certain symptoms such as random fatigue and anhedonia but they are manageable and seem to lessen with each passing week. Learning to cope with life stresses is a different story though and that is the one that will really test your resolve to quit once and for all.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #25509431 - 10/03/18 02:10 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
The only path to freedom is to accept the fact you are 100% in control of your actions / behaviors.

To adopt the label "addict" is harmful and self-stigmatizing. It's dishonest to believe you're "powerless".

Self-deception is a choice. We can rationalize behavior, but in reality, we all make choices and decisions.




Fundamentally it is just behavior when you boil it down, but that knowledge does absolutely nothing to help addicts in the real world. We are fine tuned through millions of years of evolution to seek out and repeat pleasurable activities. There's a whole biochemical cascade that takes place over time that effectively hijacks your brain when you develop a really nasty addiction to say heroin or crack cocaine. Brain scans and decades of animal studies show this. Making the decision to not shoot up is in no way comparable to say, deciding not to watch tv when its your go-to activity.

I don't think addicts are "powerless" but they are in the grips of the very real phenomenon that is addiction and unless they have the proper support systems, medication if need be, the chances of long term recovery are so slim. It may be stigmatizing to be labelled an addict but it sure beats being a "waster" that can never seem to just do the right thing.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Cjmckay]
    #25569817 - 10/26/18 05:33 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

The long acting opioids are a double-edged sword for me. Sure they remove 90% of the stress of worrying about withdrawal and where you're going to get your next fix. But the colossal tolerance and physical dependence they build, coupled with the lack of a consistent and reproducible high always lead me back to the good stuff. Not to mention, long acting opioids cause much more testosterone suppression than short acting opioids.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: trvptamine]
    #25598455 - 11/07/18 11:58 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Yes same for me. Discomfort from even mild withdrawal is magnified greatly. It can still be useful to trip but beware that your withdrawal could flare up during the trip.
On the plus side psychedelics seem to reduce opioid tolerance and withdrawal symptoms in the days after a trip.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: MoeMentim] * 1
    #25656548 - 12/04/18 10:48 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

5 1/2 years congrats! :hatsoff:


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