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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23275820 - 05/26/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, well good thread and all, I am hear for any of you fuckers just shoot me a PM anytime if you're laying awake and in agony and want to shoot the shit, I don't know but yeah just wanted to say that, it doesn't bother me at all.

The hardest part about getting clean is if you had been using for a long period of time, it's like literally impossible to get clean, and STAY clean if you come back to the same area you were using in.  Reason it's so hard is because lets say you go to a rehab, well most of those aren't that long, and you will be out soon enough and back to your old shenanigans ASAP, especially if/when you see your old friends.  I read someplace that you pick up like 90% of the habits your friends have, so choose your friends wisely if you plan on staying clean.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23277244 - 05/27/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Connoisseur said:

I'm starting to realize just how big of a role working/not working plays into my mind state for the day.






This is true, when you're at home stay busy if you can, or even get out and do something, walk around, anything.  I used to walk around and listen to music when I was dope sick, I would go to the city and just walk around, talk to all the crazy street people, really took my mind off of things for a bit, plus sunshine and its warmth can be a wonderful antidepressant when ill.


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I'm on 36th hour clean btw.




What is your plan, or are you just going to play it as it comes?  My ex and I used dope together for years, we were renting a house from her mom, once her mom found out we were on dope she kicked us out, so we had to clean up quick.  I had an income which could be made without leaving a place of residence, so I could go anywhere and work which was great for a bit, until we moved to another state and I had to seek regular work it was only once we moved back to the state we first got into dope in, that we both relapsed.

We relapsed within  2 weeks of moving back, shit was crazy, but it was just so hard to say no when your good friends all did it, and it was there to use all the time.  One thing I will say about junkies, they will try to drag you down with them, the saying "misery loves company" is very true in the world of addiction.  My best friend would find out I would be trying to kick for the millionth time, and then and only then would he offer me free dope, fucking bastard!:syringe:


I am rambling, 2nd cup of coffee tend to get me that way, but yeah I guess what I am trying to say is one of the only things which will benefit you in a huge way, is getting to a new area for a while.  Once you have a decent amount of time away from things, you might be fine to venture back to the areas you frequented before, but I would give it a year if you can, I know this is not possible for everyone though.







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Also for those of you who have experience with do it at home detox procedures please share your experiences!





DXM can be very useful, so can loperamide but be careful with it because you might already be constipated from opiates, and add the imodium on top of that and you will be shitting a brick, you don't want to strain to hard and blow out your O-ring.

Chocolate is also helpful, and you got to stay hydrated because opiates dry you out.

I found that stimulants had no positive effect on withdrawals, in fact they increased the anxiety I was having, and made me feel worse.

I don't have any experience with nootropics and withdrawals, but I have read that some of them can be beneficial.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty] * 1
    #23278932 - 05/27/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I don't get how you guys can drink when going through WD's, that shit would drive me into a bottomless depression, I just can't do it, also I feel like it's much harder to get hydrated again after getting buzzed, and I don't like that.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23295807 - 06/01/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Fert Nitty said:
Almost to 1 week




Awesome, I really hope you keep at it.  It might sound lame to some, but caffeine and dark chocolate really helped me through WD's, I still consume them on the regular.

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Connoisseur said:
Keep up the good work man! Your wds should be just about through!





The physical WD's were hell, but the mindset (PAWS) was by far much worse for me to deal with.  It took me a while to get my energy back, and I attribute much of that to depression from losing my best friend (dope)

PAWS made me feel like my WD's were still present even a month after getting clean, I didn't really feel like I was even close to normal after 3 months of no dope, but slowly I started to come around.  I had to fill the void in my life, and that is where exercise came into play, it really helps a lot.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #23296789 - 06/01/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Fert Nitty said:
Well I fucked up and bought dope today, I woke up completely intent on it. Idk why.. I think this is day 8.




Well, don't beat yourself up over this, just be careful that your tolerance is not low and you OD.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: T-Rex]
    #23353155 - 06/17/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been on a suboxone taper for the last 6 months since I relapsed on Some Brooklyn Brown and Overdosed in my bathroom. I had NYC police wake me up with Narcan. I was back out shooting that night. I realized I needed Replacement therapy to properly get my life structured.






Damn you got lucky, you can buy narcan OTC now correct?  Might be wise to carry some with you just in case, you know let anyone you're with know you have it just in case.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: olson]
    #23356388 - 06/18/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Fert Nitty said:
the fatigue is devastating omg.





Yeah, that was always the worst part for me, that and arm cramps and depression, but just being out in the sunshine and walking around really helped.

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olson said:
5 weeks clean (minus a dose of kratom).





Congrats.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: daz01]
    #23413365 - 07/05/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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M1NDW4R said:
Bupe is a fucker yes, the high i get from bupe is more nice than most full agonists for me, PERSONALLY. It gives me that body euphoria, motivation, energy and productiveness that most opiates/opioids do not.






I have known people to take bupe just as a drug all its own, even seen those people get faded on it, and get nausea then vomit, just like they took some legit opies.

Shit had no effect on me though, just made me feel normal.

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Nearly 4 weeks clean, except some tianeptine.





Congrats.:thumbup:


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: daz01]
    #23424933 - 07/08/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Dude. Just stick to poppy pod tea





Pods are tits, but maybe a little to good.

I used to buy tons of pods like 5-6 years ago when you could find them easier for cheap.  Anyway, the only bad thing about pods is they contain so many opiates and at varying amounts, you can end up getting addicted to a number of different substances, I have read this on a well known opiate site which is no longer up and running, and must say I agree. Any thoughts on this guys?

While I never got addicted to pods, I would say you're just prolonging your addiction, I mean how can something be so nice like pod tea, and not be a stumbling point for the function J.  Hey, that would be a good selling point eh, something like "Poppy pods, for the discerning J" :lol:


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: T-Rex]
    #23450903 - 07/17/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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T-Rex said:
I found early on in my opiate addiction I could still force myself to go to work/school while withdrawing but I was still miserable.




My friend and I were dope sick as fuck, we both moved the sheriff of a major county into his new home while this way, he gave us each a $100 tip, we took the work van downtown to get dope after we finished.:lol:

At that point in my life I had been using a very long time, so just accepted the pain as a mild drawback.  I always found the staying busy while dope sick, really took your mind off of it.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Sketch Turner]
    #23478167 - 07/26/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Sketch Turner said:
I'm going to see if I can manage to keep a bag around without using it.




Good luck with that, that's not a good idea, but it's your life.  I mean you're denying the energy of addiction by this type of thinking, I think all that have posted in here are addicts, some have come to terms with this, others not so much.

Not trying to be rude, just a thought.  I used to do this a lot, it was like I really wanted to have some dope around, I knew I could master my urges, but in the end I always failed and ended up making excuses why it was OK to do a shot, you're just prolonging your agony.


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Sketch Turner said:
If I can get strung out like once a month or whatever and keep it to that I wouldn't consider myself to be addicted, and the withdrawal symptoms would be almost non-existent; that is, at least I never noticed them before I started using everyday for extensive periods.





Again, good luck with that.  You might be able to do this for a bit, but eventually you will fail, you can't deny the animal that heroin is, it's a fucking beast man, a wonderful, soothing, mellow, rip your fucking throat out beast.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23490383 - 07/29/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Ruyguy said:

IMO there is no right way to kick opiates




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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536040 - 08/12/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey fellow junkies, and ex-junkies I have a question for you!

I am curious when you guys get the itch to buy dope, how hard is it for you to go about doing so?  When I was using I would have to make a 45 minute drive to downtown ATL to buy, but if there was traffic it might take an hour or more, ATL traffic was horrible.  Usually once I was downtown things would go smoothly, and I would pull up on my guys corner, make the deal and keep on moving.

Just curious how easy some of you have it.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group (moved) [Re: Ruyguy]
    #23536278 - 08/12/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Ruyguy said:
gotta say bye to those people!





That's exactly what I had to do, the only shitty thing is three of them died from OD, and the others ones are still using, those were like all my friends.

But I have been clean 3 years, had to move states to get away from the dope drama.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #23681771 - 09/26/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Track marks will heal, the only times I have seen tracks that look horrible, were from people who were using black tar for years, and did not have access to fresh gear.


They will take a while to heal though, eventually fading to a spot which isn't that noticeable.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23705393 - 10/03/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
:needssalt: Anyone willing to bet me that he does not save a little to taper off?





I'll take that bet.:grin:


Anyone ever have days like this when you were super sick.



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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23820790 - 11/10/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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At some point you've got to grow up and realize there is more to life than brief chemical satisfaction.  Much more.  Once you realize that it opens the whole world up.






What is life but brief chemical satisfaction brought on by a new promotion at work, exercise, sex, food, drugs, we're slaves to chemicals in our brains, sober, or not sober, maybe I have it all wrong though, it just seems everything people do is for some type of feeling, people get addicted to power because of the feeling of it, should those people be considered sober because they have not consumed any illicit substances, yet their actions are clearly just as selfish as many addicts are, and just as ruthless as many addicts can be.



Perhaps growing up is being a functioning addict.:lol:

I am not trying to be rude, but the world is a cold place, and I think people will always seek chemical satisfaction to warm themselves with.  What you choose to warm yourself with, will dictate the outcome of your life in many ways.  You might choose a more natural route, which might lead to positive changes throughout your life which last, you might choose heroin and end up a junkie or dead, you might choose alcohol and find yourself in another precarious spot, you might choose food and eat so much you become overweight, I don't know man, I am fucking brain dead.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24006186 - 01/13/17 04:10 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Ahh fuck I wish I knew it was when something breaks inside and I just know I'm going to get high again.  Just wake up and sit up straight in bed and be like "yup, I've had enough".






I know you're going to do what you're going to do regardless of what someone you don't know on a drug forum says, but if you can make it another week that would be awesome, I believe you edited this post earlier, and I am not going to reveal the amount of time you said you had been clean for, but you have made it through the worst physical stuff, now comes the hard part, which is the depression, and mental side of things.  I am not saying that to spook you in anyway, just you might want to stay online as much as you can, because going it alone is not going to be easy.

I hope you stay clean for a while longer, if not no worries, you're not a bad person if you do relapse, I can't stress that enough, so don't beat yourself up if you do so.


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Re: Opiate addicts support group [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24009196 - 01/14/17 08:57 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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I'm feeling better I think it was just that I drank all these chocolate milk stouts and I think they might have coffee in them, or I got way to high smoking keef because I was trying to sleep and I couldn't sleep and was laying in bed with my heart going crazy and decided I don't care anymore.





You're drinking two things which dehydrate the fuck out of you, keif is great, but I would stay away from alcohol and caffeine if you can, unless you drink a ton of water on top of it, you'll just feel shitty from the dehydration.

Feeling dehydrated is one thing which plagues opiate addicts/former addicts, and it takes a little bit after not using for your system to reset in every way.

It took me about a month for myself, to feel like my shitter and pisser were working properly after dope.


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