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Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread
    #23258801 - 05/22/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

There are many people that want to stop smoking, so please respect another's decision to quit and don't make this thread about persuading them to find ways to smoke. Marijuana is a substance with many positive effects - however, it also has its share of negatives. I do not want this thread to be a debate between the two.

I'd like this thread to be for people who feel that the negatives of marijuana are outweighing the positives in their lives - about helping one another quit consumption.

Please, feel free to share your stories about quitting/wanting to quit.
Let's come up with plans to help each other stay on track toward our goals amidst the constant pressure to smoke.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23258827 - 05/22/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

For me, I plan on quitting with the pressure of it in my life. This may not be the best route for all of us, but I have a lot of friends who smoke and I want to keep ties with these guys.

I'm quitting for multiple reasons. Primarily, I think habitual smoking is my problem. I'm compulsive about it. If I have it, I smoke it - before work, before school, during assignments, before tests, etc. I'm not fluid at work when I've been smoking a lot. My short term memory is shit - I'll walk into a room and have to sit for like 10 seconds to figure out what I was doing, if I even figure it out. I don't dream when I'm smoking. I cough up a bunch of phlegm. It's prolonged my illness multiple times. I rely on it for a "fix" and it makes other natural highs less high. I find I crave it during every activity.

1) First thing's first - I've gotta stop buying marijuana.
2) - I've gotta get rid of what I have. I plan on giving it to my roommate's
3) - I've got to say no. This is hard to do because I get excited when people offer and body craves the substance to some extent. This takes discipline and a firm aspiration to quit. I will cultivate the firm desire to quit by reminding myself of the negatives I have experienced from marijuana.I will also help myself say no by rewarding myself every time I do. I'll do this by letting myself buy a Qdoba burrito everytime I say no.
4) - I've got to maintain quitting this time. I've quit numerous times and hopped back on, so I kind of need help here.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23258849 - 05/22/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, weed sucks.
And you'll get fat.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #23259317 - 05/22/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I made the decision to quit marijuana after a couple psychedelic trips that made me realize I would be better off without it. I absolutely love the substance, but after years of getting high regularly and maturing into my late 20's, it's just not the same. When I first started six years ago, I was fascinated by it. Spending hours of research and being on the grass city forums made me astounded at how the education system spewed so much bullshit about it.

I noticed how marijuana made me a more blissful person by taking away my mental illnesses. Skip forward to today and it's a different story. Sometimes I find myself sad and paranoid on it. I've also noticed that the effect of short term memory loss and short attention span is more serious than I thought. When I took a month long break, my memory improved a lot and I was better at handling tasks at a faster pace while being more productive.

I like the idea of this thread it's good to have people to relate your problems with. Let's support each other on this abstinence trail to improve ourselves as better human beings. :peace:


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Kinshino]
    #23259595 - 05/22/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Ey thanks for the comment!

I definitely notice I'm more fluid with tasks when I take a while off of smoking. I'm also curious how you managed to stay sober. I don't have much trouble quitting for a few weeks, but I get pulled into smoking so easily.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Kinshino] * 2
    #23259659 - 05/22/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I have not been smoking for about 3 weeks now. I do miss it, but I'm discovering how much more present I am in my life without it. Weed has made me complacent in my life for some time now. Over the course of 7 years, I have slowly dissolved my social life because I have been able to hang with my room mates and smoke all day. I am making more of an effort to reclaim the friendships and re build connections with people I miss now and it feels easier.

Marijuana has put me in my my head for a LONG time! Weed clouds my ability to communicate effectively. It comes through in the words I say. My body language becomes introverted and I sort of just slip in to a void where I cant give my full attention to the people in the room.

When I am high, I mostly feel like relaxing and being left alone. I think this has constricted my relationships, I wont answer my phone calls, or text back in appropriate times.
I believe that weed has been responsible for crippling my relationships just simply because I'm not as interesting and I become stationary and mindless. I do not go out as often and I do not have the deep conversations that I used to have. I believe I come across as harder to approach because I simply am just too blazed to carry on much talk or banter with others. I usually will keep it short and simple or just laugh things off and drop the convo.

Obviously, quitting has its financial benefits. Which I cannot wait to reap from as time goes by. I hope to become more physically active in my free time. I hope to be more approachable and more engaging with others in my life.

In the last year I quit going to school because I sort of lost my vision of the path I was pursuing. I dove in to the work life and I was okay with doing 55 hours a week and just staying stoned. And then get faded afterwards with a 6 pack.

I have recently decided I am going to go back to school and pursue environmental science. I truly am a hippy at heart and I need to find a way to mix passion and work. I have these cravings that I hope I can find a way to satisfy by going down this path.

Because I feel I am rambling. All in all, I LOVE weed and I recognize all its benefits it has had on me over the years. Its time to take my life back and become the go getter I know that I am. Thanks for making the thread because recently this has been my world. Of trying to break this mold that I have placed myself in!


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: SushiKing]
    #23259688 - 05/22/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Nice post bruh. The three week mark is pretty solid :thumbup:

It definitely affects my social life in similar ways. One of my high school teachers told me that weed makes his life stationary. I feel that in a lot of respects it's the same for me and it sounds like it is for you too.

That'll be dope to be back in school if that's what you want man! I worked at a pizza shop with heavy overtime and would just hangout with my coworkers, blaze up, drink, pass out, and repeat. I'm way happier in school.

How do you plan on staying sober past this three week mark? Three weeks is typically as far as I've gotten in the past.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy] * 2
    #23259922 - 05/22/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I've been smoking weed pretty much daily since I was about 14 (18 years ago). I gave up only once, at 20, as the skunk was starting to more and more frequently cause intense paranoia and panic attacks, and became a cokehead for 2 years. After 2 years getting heavy into that shit, I had a sudden moment of clarity and decided I'd be better off smoking weed again than I was with that shit!

So this time I started back up smoking only Thai (which is a reasonably mild, pure sativa strain). That's been my constant companion for the last 10 years of my life (daily), and 10 days ago, as I went on my first retreat, I made the commitment to break my daily habit. I'd only smoke a little bit, twice a day (midday and before bed) but I felt it was making me feel kinda dumbed down. Memory was affected.

It's been a bit of an up & down ride since quitting. I work nights often and I've seen that it really helped me to have a solid 7 hour sleep when sleeping in the day time. My sleep has been very broken in its absence, and dreams have returned with a vengeance. I've also noticed a bit of an emotional rollercoaster going on inside me due to having my 'crutch' removed.

I don't intend to become entirely abstinent, but certainly need to give myself enough time to recover from the 10 year habit.

I'll ask a mod to sticky this thread, since we already have one here for Alcohol abstinence support. Just in case you look for it and don't spot that it's moved to the top of the thread listing.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23259977 - 05/22/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Hey man, thanks for the input and assistance getting this thread going.

Seems like it was a good decision to switch to pot from coke. and i definitely feel like it's quite the crutch for me sometimes - even if I don't use it to cope, I'll just be more irritable in general if I'm smoking.

How long have you stopped? If it's recent my hope is the sleep will eventually be better for you and the irritability will go away. I have read that pot does negatively affect deep sleep.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23260006 - 05/22/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

10 days thus far. But it's trying to sleep in the daytime cause of working nights that is the trouble I believe. Lots of other guys, that don't touch weed, have this trouble also. I think that weed just helped keep me in a deeper sleep, rather than the lighter one I have without it. I'm sure it'll be much better when I come off nights and correct my circadian rhythm again.

I wouldn't say it was a good decision switching from weed to coke! Not that it was a conscious decision anyway; rather giving up one habit and replacing it with another. But coke is an almost infinitely worse drug IMO, and those two years were bad times.

I just didn't notice cause I was coked up so often. But in hindsight....


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23260030 - 05/22/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Oh! my bad! I thought you switched from coke to pot!

10 days is pretty good bruh! I bet you've started noticing some effects. It usually takes me like 4 days before I start really coming out of the cocoon it puts me in.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23260070 - 05/22/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, at about day 5 I dropped into a pretty deep depression, which lasted 3-4 days.

So it sounds like the chance of relapse becomes greatest at around the 3-week point?

I want to believe that I'll, at some point, be able to just have a joint or two on a weekend; exactly as I do with beer. But I've never used alcohol much, so it's easy to go week to week without it. I'm cognizant of the way ex-daily drinkers can fall back into daily use after just one drink however, and not sure if the potential is similar with cannabis?


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23260085 - 05/22/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Word, I can manage alcohol pretty well and I hope to reintegrate pot appropriately in the future, but now I realize it is not possible at the current time. I would hope that the potential of pot isn't the same, but I've only quit for a couple months, so I'd like to know what quitting for a few years will do.

Relapse for me has typically been 2-3 weeks. That's about when all my symptoms of use disappear. I've also relapsed at twice between 4-8 weeks. I just get cocky and think I can handle it, but, like you said, the temptation slowly lures me back in.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23260110 - 05/22/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

So are you planning on total abstinence for a number of years before you try and use responsibly again? I was thinking more like months, if that. I feel pretty damn determined to avoid using anything daily from here on out in my life. But just like psychedelics, I don't feel any desire to completely remove weed from my life. Just to a responsible, rather than a daily user.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23260121 - 05/22/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know an exact date, I just don't want to relapse. I did after a couple months, which was upsetting. I'd say at least a year.

Exactly, I don't want to lose the positives it has, but right now, as long as I am vulnerable to falling into my habitual use, its negatives outweigh the positives.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23260134 - 05/22/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, it makes sense that after a couple of relapses you wanna go in extra cautious this time round. Other than the time I quit, only to replace it with coke, I have never tried to give up, so I'm not really fearful of relapse. Time will tell if I'm being a bit blasé about it I suppose.

I've got this thread stickied now, so let's keep the updates coming! I'm looking forward to seeing your progress and wish you all the best on this journey brother.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23260146 - 05/22/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks brother!

I wish you well as well. Keep me updated on your progress! I'm curious about how your sleep will resolve.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23266128 - 05/24/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Very rich diolouge.
Great food for thought guys.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #23266947 - 05/24/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I folded and smoked a tiny bit of hash (didn't wanna resort to my usual Thai) before I slept today. Lo and behold, I slept like a baby for 8 straight hours!

I won't be repeating the exercise again any time soon, but I was in dire need of a good, solid sleep (haven't had one in nearly a week) and wanted to put it to the test.

Will keep updates coming.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23266980 - 05/24/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Ey, I was thinking about your sleep and I thought that if it didn't fix itself that maybe figuring out a low dose of marijuana that works might be a good thing to try.

As for me, I haven't really been smoking that much relative to my usual self this last month, but it is day 3 of not smoking and I'm definitely feeling my motivation come back, as it typically does around this time. That also may be due to the meditation schedule I've been committing too, but I know when I'm smoking I don't meditate as much. I've also noticed I've been pretty bored when I get all my stuff around the house down. Seems like those were my favorite times to smoke. Homework's still hard for me to get motivated about, but I'm definitely getting more done than usual. Looking forward to the future. This thread has given me the firmest motivation to not relapse I think I've ever had. I really don't want to let myself/other members down this time. Smoking isn't even a remote option at the moment.

Hope your sleep gets better bruh!


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