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Hexabranchus
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Re: Does anyone here like permaculture? [Re: Tipote] 2
#23258900 - 05/22/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Going to do a design course in July and am really excited about it!
I've been volunteering down at a farming project and the organiser has given me free reign to implement any projects that come to mind. So hopefully the course will give me lots of inspiration!
My first project was to implement some 'no-dig' style potatoes. Firstly I used cardboard to cover the earth (and weeds). I then laid the potatoes in crosses cut into the cardboard on the ground and covered them with ample hay to block out the sunlight.
It should be interesting to compare the traditional ones we planted with the 'no-dig' ones. The main advantage of 'no-dig' methods is that they don't disturb the delicate soil ecosystems.
I'd highly recommend Graham Burnett's book A Beginner's Guide to Permaculture. I've just started Bill Mollinson's text, which is on piratebay if anyone is interested!
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Moonshoe
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Survivalism is the core of my lifestyle And my main hobby and interest .
The first part of survivalism is stockpiling but Once that is done it's all about permaculture ! (Also called Xeriscaping)
Permaculture is an amazingly rewarding lifestyle an an incredibly enjoyable hobby.
My wife and I have a house with a nice sized fenced back yard.
We have two Apple trees that produce a ton of great apples.
I put in 3 huge barrels full of water , like 300 litres or so, which is right by the garden and is for watering the garden if the municipal water was gone.
We have a fire place in the back yard and one indoors so I stocked the garage with a cord of fire wood (freezing to death is a very real possibility where I live)
We surrounded the fireplace with a bunch of pots and containers , and this was our first Garden- the container garden.
We put in a fancy rotating compost to dispose of our food waste . It spins and eventually turns compost into fertilizer for the garden.
Then my wife built us a beautiful wood raised bed garden. A big rectangle about a foot high.
This is our main garden, the "bed garden". It's modular meaning we can keep adding more identical rectangle gardens side by side, and eventually we have room for 8-12 of them easy.
We got a bunch of little pots and planted warm weather veggies in those and kept them inside - they sprout and grow an when they are big enough we will transplant them into big pots or the garden beds.
We planted cold weather veggies directly into the ground and pots outside .
We will construct a greenhouse around the garden beds to extend growing season into the early spring and late fall.
When the apples are ready we eat as many as we can and press the rest into juice , which in turn we will ferment to make alcoholic cider .
Next we will Get residential solar installed and a tesla wall solar storage battery .
Then we will hook that up to an indoor hydroponic greenhouse , with which to grow some veggies during the winter.
So basically we have a large stockpile food water and supplies to hold us over in an emergency and apple trees and vegetable gardens (eventually indoor and outdoor) to provide a renewable source of food, as well as firewood to stay warm, firearms to hunt meat and defend our land, and rainwater barrels to catch rainwater to water the garden, as well as multiple water purification devices to use if our 500 or so litres of emergency drinking water is depleted .
Each summer we will build and install more modular garden beds, as plant more fruit trees, until eventually the entire backyard is transformed into a suburban farm.
Eventually we hope to have chickens and rabbits for meat, if that is or becomes legal .
Permaculture is my passion and my dream is to turn our home into a completely off the grid survival base where we can live without any outside inputs indefinitely.
It's unlikely this can be fully achieved but every step in that direction is progress .
Eventually geothermal power will be added, as well as a cannabis garden (when it's legal), A poppy garden and an indoor kombucha culture, as well as bulletproof windows, reinforced doors, a guard dog , an Underground bunker and or own wine and beer making facilities .
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Does anyone here like permaculture? [Re: Tipote]
#23259174 - 05/22/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Permaculture is the future! If we made better use of the land instead of growing cash crops everywhere there wouldn't be so many people starving in the world.
Not to mention all the other benefits it has over traditional monoculture crops...
lol...
whats funny? The statement was that better use of land for food would mean there would be less starvation.
seems straight forward 
http://permaculturenews.org/2014/09/26/un-small-farmers-agroecology-can-feed-world/
who exactly is it that's feeding the world now, to the point that we have excess?
has permaculture ever prevented famine before? a 200 years ago this was the model for most agriculture and famine was far more common, with permaculture you can work soil but that's the extent of your use of heavy equipment, you then have to resort to manual labor which drives costs up preventing people from buying the food, if you're growing for yourself then hey, more power to you but permaculture isnt going to end starvation in the world
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musiclover420
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Re: Does anyone here like permaculture? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23259234 - 05/22/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pretty sure if the world stopped growing crash crops and mono crop fields everywhere and switched to more sustainable methods like permaculture it could definitely end starvation as well as make a big dent on our impact on the environment... The only real obstacles are greed and effort, people are too lazy and want to do things the simplest and easiest way possible to make the most $.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Does anyone here like permaculture? [Re: musiclover420]
#23259279 - 05/22/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Pretty sure if the world stopped growing crash crops and mono crop fields everywhere and switched to more sustainable methods like permaculture it could definitely end starvation as well as make a big dent on our impact on the environment... The only real obstacles are greed and effort, people are too lazy and want to do things the simplest and easiest way possible to make the most $.
lol... so stop growing marijuana, it's one of the top 5 cash crops
care to show me just one large city that's being sustained via permaculture, any place with 100,000 people that use permacuture to provide all their food needs
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