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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23804554 - 11/05/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



^ Rupert Sheldrake on Cannabis ^

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To say No when Yes would be a piece of selflessness, but also to say No as little as possible. To depart from that to which No would be required again and again.

The rationale is that defense expenditures, be they never so small, lead to extraordinary impoverishment.

Our largest expenditures are our most frequent small ones. Warding off, not letting come close, is an expenditure. A strength squandered on negative objectives.

Merely through the constant need to ward off, one can become too weak any longer to defend oneself. (Ecce Homo, Nietzsche)


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #23804931 - 11/05/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Rupert says, "The fact the mental expansion has brought about a physical lethargy."

A stoner for 25+ years, I'd debate being stoned is a "mind-expanding" experience.

Don't get me wrong, myself and millions of others have used this as rationale to smoke weed.

But does being stoned really "expand" one's mind, or dull and constrict it?


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23804941 - 11/05/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think that maybe without any tolerance to weed that the mind-expanding thing may be true but anyone whos smoked daily for months or years would agree with your latter option of dulling and constricting it


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #23805070 - 11/05/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

A stoner for 25+ years, I'd debate being stoned is a "mind-expanding" experience.

But does being stoned really "expand" one's mind, or dull and constrict it?






They say "astonishment" is the root of philosophy.  Therefore, a first time user who had been conditioned by his society, might, through cannabis use, have novel experiences with astonishment (that he might otherwise not have) and this sense of novelty and astonishment gets linked with expansion, and maybe it truly is. However, i can see how astonishment might become an addicting mechanical cycle, and so it is easy enough to see that there is a degradation of ones's character (person becomes too easily amused, simple-symbol minded, no interest in anticipating other peoples complex needs).


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Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #23805085 - 11/05/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So "astonishment" is the reason stoned people "enjoy" doing housework?

When I am high, vacuuming the carpet seems like going to the moon.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23805118 - 11/05/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
So "astonishment" is the reason stoned people "enjoy" doing housework?

When I am high, vacuuming the carpet seems like going to the moon.




Cannabis appears to make me more content and astonished with what is immediately apparent, and the ordinary things can seem bigger than what they normally would.  i experience catharsis and laughter after smoking cannabis, but i find that only happens when I've been productive earlier in the day, doing something that contributes to the lives of others, or at least prevents them from being inconvenienced.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #23805136 - 11/05/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A buddy used to tell me smoking weed made simple things seem complex.

He'd boil noodles for dinner, and then act as if he had built the Eiffel Tower.


Edited by RJ Tubs 202 (11/05/16 11:30 PM)


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23821534 - 11/10/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys just a quick update before i drift off to sleep. INFINITY. I have learned so much since i have stopped smoking, and i has only been 11 days! i feel like i'm an active participant in life, seeking every possibility and maximizing each opportunity i can. after the withdrawals wear off, life feels like a playing ground, waiting for me to gracefully fuck shit up. i have a load of things to get done that i've pushed aside my whole life out if laziness and denial. now i am exercising, reading, enjoying music and contributing to my future happiness in ways i knew were apparent but i refused to pursue. in other words, i've realized i don't need weed to make me happy, i am happy. i am extremely grateful for everything i already have, and it is my responsibility to maintain this ecstasy and spread it to those around me. i'm working on completing projects on my backlog. i'm loving each moment or at least reaching towards that light. i'm finding it easy to be with people and enjoy people's company despite all the BS. i love myself and the life i own, and i owe it to every being who has ever shown me love (or hate as well). can i assist in waking my family/friends up to the infinity around us? can i optimize my productivity? can i make music and express myself to others? only time will tell. stay tuned. peace. p.s.: (weed is not bad by the way, just easy to fall into addiction, and especially having gone through alot growing up and drama, etc. i will smoke bud after i get off this piss program, but probably alone and occasionally/rarely) i feel great.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Super Squid]
    #23821537 - 11/10/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

oh by the way one last thing that video clip with graham hancock was spot-on.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Super Squid]
    #23825150 - 11/12/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

64 days down the drain last night...but no problem. The experience just kind of strengthened my resolve to lay off it. Just wasn't all that great even though I got very high...no sympathy needed. Day one of another 60 day weed free run starts now:smile:


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23842884 - 11/17/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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64 days down the drain last night...




Don't you think "counting" is counter productive?

I think the idea of counting sober days is the work of the Devil.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23860759 - 11/23/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i wish i stumbled on this forum sooner. i test + on one of my drug test for the guard.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Mo.Sigh.Aw] * 1
    #23861657 - 11/23/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

after 8 years of everyday smoking ,im weed free since april. so about 8 months.

i did so much positive changes in my life..

i almost cant belive the person ive became


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne] * 1
    #24037791 - 01/25/17 05:01 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Been smoking for about 3 years. Tried to quit more times than I can count...

Every time I get cooked I just space out and get nothing done. My tolerance is so high that once I start smoking I have to get to a point where it's almost painful before I can feel satisfied. Despite this, something is keeping me from stopping. People say it's not addictive but??????


Is it bad that I've gotten to the point where my main desire for quitting is so that when I come back I know it'll be heaps better (tolerance)?

Cheers


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #24038048 - 01/25/17 08:45 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

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after 8 years of everyday smoking ,im weed free since april. so about 8 months.

i did so much positive changes in my life..

i almost cant belive the person ive became




Happy to hear everything is going well for you! No longer 'Young, broke, and pissed.' :hug:

I've changed a lot as well in these last few months. Been holding down a steady job since October, finally putting all the pieces back together. Took me awhile to get over my ex-girlfriend. She had some crazy voodoo woo-woo going on, I was lost for awhile.

I've cut down on my cannabis consumption but I don't have the desire to completely cut it out of my life. I'm trying to use it only to help me eat or sleep. Not just to get stoned and sit in my room. Although I'm guilty of that too.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: shroomdood]
    #24039153 - 01/25/17 04:17 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

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Been smoking for about 3 years. Tried to quit more times than I can count...

Every time I get cooked I just space out and get nothing done. My tolerance is so high that once I start smoking I have to get to a point where it's almost painful before I can feel satisfied. Despite this, something is keeping me from stopping. People say it's not addictive but??????


Is it bad that I've gotten to the point where my main desire for quitting is so that when I come back I know it'll be heaps better (tolerance)?

Cheers



It's not necessarily bad that you won't to stop to get rid of your tolerance. In my opinion weed with a high tolerance vs no tolerance is like 2 completely different substances but you have to be able to control your intake. Only you know the real reasons why you smoke and how often you smoke but I was a daily smoker multiple times a day as well for years and at first I just felt lost without it when I quit. I think I only smoked once in the last 4 or 5 months and I can HONESTLY say I was no happier with it. Not really saying I'm happier without it but DEFINITLEY not any happier than I am now. But also to be honest I still do have thoughts and the occasional desire to smoke a bowl:shrug:


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #24043782 - 01/27/17 01:19 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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Rupert says, "The fact the mental expansion has brought about a physical lethargy."

A stoner for 25+ years, I'd debate being stoned is a "mind-expanding" experience.

Don't get me wrong, myself and millions of others have used this as rationale to smoke weed.

But does being stoned really "expand" one's mind, or dull and constrict it?




I think it clouds the mind which becomes dull and constricted. I've been smoking it for years, had some trouble letting go and posted on this thread a few times as well. IME I found it to be very counter productive, it kept my mind in a state of haze, were everything was alright cause I was numb to everything, I felt that constant state produced physical lethargy due to false justification for my actions. I still do it to myself and things take time to be done but I've managed to pull the breaks on keeping my cool and going a few days to weeks without it but somehow always finds it's way into my life :lol:


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #24085135 - 02/12/17 02:47 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

This thread is interesting to read through. I am of the opinion that using marijuana can be harmful, and maybe even in most cases is, but it kicked off my life, I owe everything to cannabis, mushrooms, lsd, opiates. Much love much fear. If I didn't smoke that first joint I don't think i'd even be self-aware today. I smoke probably 5 times a week on average, and I don't feel at harm beside being a bit slower. It goes away after a week of not smoking.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: czech] * 1
    #24087548 - 02/13/17 03:34 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

End of week one.

It's easy, as I'm not bothered by anything... But damn! I've hit the gym twice today, that's a first in a year or something, and I've got tons of energy left! I also find it necessary to rap along all the verses of the Wu, scream with Lamb of God and the rest of the nonsense... I'm finally living, hah.

A better tomorrow :gameover:

Peace!


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Wesker] * 1
    #24087554 - 02/13/17 03:36 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Almost 4 years since my last toke.  It was seedless brick so it wasn't very inspiring for anything but getting better weed.  I save a fortune not smoking but spend half of that on beer and rum, sometimes whiskey.

Here's to always having vices!


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