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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23730011 - 10/12/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I now have the conscious ability to check in with how I'm feeling before I actually smoke.



Have you identified your motivation to smoke?

In other words, what are you trying to achieve by getting high?

Every motivation I have to smoke is rooted in escaping my present experience.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23731233 - 10/12/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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LittleDaddy said:

I now have the conscious ability to check in with how I'm feeling before I actually smoke.



Have you identified your motivation to smoke?

In other words, what are you trying to achieve by getting high?

Every motivation I have to smoke is rooted in escaping my present experience.




That's what happens to me too and is motivated by negative feelings. The most common ones are boredom, disappointment, rejection, panic and anxiety which is often stimulated from boredom disappointment or rejection. I feel like these are what usually motivate me to smoke or find smoke because like you said I am trying to escape my present experience, my present situation. I do not want to feel that way anymore or I do not manage to find motivation to do the things I need to do so I smoke to fill up my time or numb the pain away.

But it doesn't, it's always temporarily and always got me itching for more


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23732725 - 10/12/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

For me, the motivation to escape isn't only difficult, negative, or disturbing emotions.

It strange . . .  I believe I sometimes seek to escape positive emotions.

It's interesting people get drunk at weddings and funerals.

I'm happy => time to get loaded....I'm sad => time to get loaded.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23733787 - 10/13/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I get that sometimes too where I feel the need to escape positive situations. It could be about anything, simply being at a dinner and I am having a great time I still feel the need to escape into my own little world. So I get loaded

Everytime is a good time to get loaded :facepalm:


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23738213 - 10/14/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I feel that it's easy to quit weed and not smoke if you have good things going for you, and/or if you are actively working towards something you are passionate about.

Focus on improving yourself and then you will forget about weed.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23739095 - 10/15/16 02:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have tried that a million and one times

I got my thesis coming up, lots of research that still needs to be done, I got my mushrooms working, I read and I cook when I can cause I'm always so friggen broke due to blowing all my cash on smoke. Literally there is 0.73cents in my bank account. I spent my last bit to buy around 3g of really intense buds and my fridge is bare. In summer things were going for me too, I had a job that paid alright, I got my license....etc yet I still found reason to get loaded, infact, having a job kind of intensified the ''need'' for it due to my mindset of relaxing after work so I always had some for after work until that expanded to getting high AT WORK

After my recent break up I tried to quit numerous times but it's impossible. It has too much of a hold in my life, all of my friends are enablers and literally even if I casually go out to a bar, with no smoking in mind, there is always some fucking chump with smoke.

I've smoked so much I literally don't know what it's like to be sober anymore and the thought of finishing a day completely sober or dealing with life sober scares me so much that I can actually feel a little trinkle of piss coming out

I've tried to reach out for therapy cause I desperately need it but by the time I make an appointment I would have already smoked all of my cash so I end up cancelling. I also tried to attend to NA, and by attend I just sent an e-mail, got a response and never really gave much of a fuck about it

I fear with this problem I may never evolve to my full potential and I will never reach my goals in life with all this smoking and what scares me even more is that I am accepting of that. I've become empathatic and a bit of nihilist because of marijuana. Life feels so pointless sometimes, this sickness makes me go nuts and I fear I may never be good enough to ever meet someone new and have a decent realistic normal relationship.

:trekfacepalm:

I fucking hate this. Its over ridden my life and now it controls it.

No wonder my fucking ex left, who wouldn't with this train wreck

''Fuck weed man'' He says as he's prepping to go to his friend's house to smoke bowls all day


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #23740788 - 10/15/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Focus on improving yourself and then you will forget about weed.



Trying to "improve" myself caused me so much stress, I smoked for relief.

When I abandoned trying to be a "better" person, I was able to break free.

When I accept myself and life totally, without resistance, I can live in peace.

Deep in our heart there is nothing we need to "improve".


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    #23771705 - 10/25/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

not sure if this has been posted before but days after quitting dreams become very vivid in a way that i remember them very well and from what i hear dreams are a key to understanding and elevating oneself its very hard to interpret ones dreams but it can be done i guess Terence mckenna has also commented about this.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23771764 - 10/25/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

@Rosen_Rot,

I used to be in your shoes.  I feel a little foolish thinking about those days when I was addicted to marijuana.
The first step to quitting is to throw away all of your smoking tools.  All your bowls, your bongs, your papers, your grinders, etc.
Having friends that smoke is also very distracting when you want to quit.  You need to stop hanging out with them as much.  It's a hard choice to make, but you need to make yourself a better you. 
We all have our own path in life.  Perhaps you need to get off the path your friends are on and make your own path.  It will suck not hanging with them, but it is worth it.  I've done it.

I know you want to quit and you do, too.  So just do it, dude!  Throw away all of your smoking tools.  Delete your dealer's number. 

Exercise.  Exercise releases feel-good chemicals.  Eat healthy to also make yourself get more feel-good chemicals.
Buy big bags of broccoli and make fat bowls of the stuff.  It's so healthy.  Stop eating fast food and stop drinking soda.  Cook chicken with spices in the pan with butter and add the broccoli to it.

I'm here for you.  I've been in your shoes and I was not doing well in life.  I was skipping classes like crazy, getting bad grades.  I have since graduated and have a great life and I smoke once every few months.  Moderation is fantastic.  Don't let weed be the focus of your life. It ruins the fun.

Growing shrooms isn't helping your weed situation, IMO.  Idk about you but once I have shrooms I want some weed to go with it. 
Maybe you should get rid of ur shroom grow and just go sober.  Get your brain chemicals naturally balanced.  it will take a few days to start feeling a little normal, you probably will barely sleep during that time, wake up sweating, but it's worth it in the end.

After not smoking for a few days you'll start to feel brain processing improve.  Short term memory will return.  When you smoke everyday do you remember what you did all day or is it one blur?  When I stopped I was SHOCKED after a week or two at how much my short term memory improved.  I actually got high from that feeling, and I was sober.

Being sober will give you more energy and a new found freedom and confidence.

Having no money sucks.  Save that shit up and stop buying weed.  you need some money in case something bad in happens in life, for example, medically.  Think about your future.  Stop thinking about the now and getting blasted.  It's fun for a while, but you've overstayed your visit.  Time to move on.

I'm here for ya


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23771785 - 10/25/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:

Focus on improving yourself and then you will forget about weed.



Trying to "improve" myself caused me so much stress, I smoked for relief.

When I abandoned trying to be a "better" person, I was able to break free.

When I accept myself and life totally, without resistance, I can live in peace.

Deep in our heart there is nothing we need to "improve".




That is a big load of bullshit.
Every one can always improve.  If you can't improve then you must be perfect, and no one is perfect. 
Are you a good friend?  Do you treat your parents with respect? 
Do you help peopple around you? 
Do you have a good job? 
ARe you healthy, physically and mentally?
Are you happy when you look in the mirror?
Do you go to sleep at night feeling content? 
Are you always high when you go to sleep?


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23772498 - 10/26/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I already threw out all of my paraphinilia, everything just went in the trash and I never looked back. My biggest problem is my friends and the places I hang out at. I have a lot of social anxiety and I don't get along with just anybody, my friends are the same and like the places and things that I like to go/do. I don't club or go to any parties and I really don't want to interact with those type of people (which is about 90% of people around my age) cause it's just a waste of time for me. I am genuinely not interested. Even at uni where I go, I swear that 99% of the students there are all into smoking pot so I am literally everywhere where marijuana is available, sometimes I even get it for free!

It's taken me a long time to get here, especially after my gut-wrenching break up this summer. Abandoning my small circle of friend will just get me back to square 1, lonely and depressed, and in that state, with or without them I will definitely find/use weed. Finding marijuana here is piss easy and if you delete one dealer, 5 more will show up. Everybody my age has sold/is selling/knows someone that sells.

I fucking hate broccoli but lately my diet has improved. My coffee binge is over and now it's limited to 2 mugs a day instead of the usual 8, I don't pour in as much sugar or use as much coffee as I used to and I got used to it. I eat a shit ton of chicken breast and I either make my homemade stir fry with fresh vegetables or cook it in spices and herbs with some chips, carrots and peas. I eat fruits as well, mostly bananas and fresh squeezed OJ and lately I've been trying to remind myself to eat one apple a day

I am not going to give up on mushrooms. It's one of the few things I am good at and I just spent a bunch of money constructing a laminar hood + agar supplies to improve my gourmet small farm. Hell mushrooms are the main idea behind my thesis and the past year I have been desperately trying to get better at IDing mushrooms and just spent over 250euros for a small Fungi ID online course and about 80euros on the biology of fungi. I can't set them aside, it's a lifestyle and a job I do during winter when I am a full time student. Everybody knows me as the mushroom guy. They pay my bills, feed me and clothe me. Fortunately for me I do not want weed when I am high on magic mushrooms and it's not the first time where I thought it would be a good idea to buy a small bag of weed before I trip only to end up giving all my weed to everyone else to smoke cause my shrooming body does not want contact with that filth. If anything, using active mushrooms has been keeping my mental balance in check :lol:

I haven't been buying much weed lately but I've been getting a lot of free doobies from my friends seeing as they are always buying. At school I smoke a lot in the morning/afternoon and during the last 3 hours I don't touch anything cause I would need to drive home. I just got my 4x4 and started driving, it makes me anxious and nervous so I put a lot of effort into focusing on the road because I have no cash to blow out on legalities and insurance and all that shit. Yesterday, for example, I gave my friends a lift to this bar and I stayed there a while, met some people, had one cider and a joint and that was it for me. The rest of the night I had to decline one joint after another, including free booze, because I didn't want to get blasted before I get behind the wheel. I felt proud of myself because I took an adult decision and a bit of a loser at the same time.

I want that man, I want to be sober so I can start enjoying things and finding things stimulating when I am sober not everything has to be weed related or it's only fun when I'm high. I am really sick of that attitude I have on life and activities and I am really sick of always forgetting. But the pull sometimes is too much and when it's so easy to find the temptation can be even worse. I feel a lot of mental strain between actual me and my addiction, it's a constant fight and sometimes I get really really tired.

Money is what worries me. Although I fully comprehend that money is not everything there is also a fine line that defines life is not F2P. You gotta pay and you gotta pay hard. So on that aspect nothing matters neither my perspective or self development. Money is a need and that's that. Its stuff like that that make me worry, even though here hospitals/medical care are free I have other responsibilities such as paying my bills, a loan, food and emergencies (vet bills..etc). I think about my future a lot and the more I think about it the more I worry I am not capable and the more I worry and panick the more I use. I want to be stable, responsible and someone who thinks of the future in money terms but sometimes even that fear is not enough to hold back my use.

Ugh I don't know, maybe something like meeting a woman whom I genuinely like and is against use will help me regulate my use and eventually quit. It happens, I see people improve and blossom when they find the right partner

Thank you for your kind words and your time to speculate on my situation :shineon: I really appreciate it and will keep some of the things you said in mind more!


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23775240 - 10/26/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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That is a big load of bullshit.

Every one can always improve.




This is the lie we've been taught . . .  It fuels addiction. 

That we are flawed and defective and can "improve" our self.

We believe this steaming pile of crap there's something "wrong" with us

We believe this irrational lie we need to "fix" what is "wrong" with us

The mind of depression is a liar.
The mind of anxiety is a liar.
The mind of addiction is a liar.

Don't believe the crap your mind tries to sell you!!!

Question and challenge your self-hatred... that you need to be "better"!

Self-hatred feels good to the ego, but it's poison for the soul.

Abandon the insane notion that you could be "better".


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23775346 - 10/27/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

47 days weed free here
but it's kind of been tough since I'm currently unemployed and I don't have any friends. being so isolated and antisocial and lonely sucks. I've started seeing a new psychiatrist. I'm just so confused and in my head all the fucking time. I told the psych that "sometimes I truly feel like there's something wrong with the way I think(my brain) but that also I feel like im just different and that theres really not anything "wrong" with me but I feel like I've been in a huge rut for an extremely long time


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23775369 - 10/27/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Right!

The #1 thought of an addict is that something is wrong with you.

The mind of an addict is a liar. Don't believe that crap. You are fine.


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    #23775375 - 10/27/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

appreciate the words but ijust don't know. One thing I do know is that I desperately need to get laid


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23775387 - 10/27/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Anytime we believe we need ______ to be happy, we enter the gates of Hell.

This is the insanity of neurosis (anxiety, depression, addiction, rage, etc)


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    #23775395 - 10/27/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I used to drink liquor a lot until one day amongst the shakes and despair I said to myself "that's enough I have to stop this" but I immediately shifted to pot and it quickly became a daily habit


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23775410 - 10/27/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That you shift from one drug to another reveals avoidance is the real goal.

We run and hide from our inner conflicts.

We are not addicted to drugs and alcohol

We are addicted to escape.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy] * 1
    #23791964 - 11/01/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hello Shroomery. Longtime lurker, first time poster here. Yesterday waa my first drug test for a 4-month diversion program. I was arrested on Sep 18 for literally like a 0.3 punch of bud and a one-hitter. this is going to be difficult for me. I've smoked nearly everyday since the age of 12. Battled addiction since mid-highschool. Smoke with friends, family, coworkers, bosses, ex-cops, etc. always knew my excessive weed use held ne back from opportunities, relationships, and general happiness. oh yeah and there's the lovely "have to be high to enjoy the day/ smoke all day" side effect, that comes with the permastoned lifestyle. in the past, i've been to deep depressions where i considered drastic actions including suicide, etc. for such a physically harmless drug it has allowed me to become potentially harmful to myself and those around me. i found myself many times in my life sitting around doing nothing for long periods.
i love smoking and yes i wish i could smoke now, but i know that this segment of externally imposed sobriety is for the best, and embarrassingly something i could not do on my own. i tried. also, i just didn't want to quit. lol. now i'm using kratom maybe once or twice a week. it helps me chill out and focus.

i will be reading, catching up on on the books i didn't read because i was lazy and also couldn't focus for long. before getting arrested i moved into my own place this summer and that actually helped alot being on my own and learning to budget food and friendtime. i also will be working out exercising much more now. weed just makes me lethargic, but i could really force myself to go running when i was high if i really wanted to. anyways i don't want to switch to drinking. alcohol is bad and i dont want to be drinking all the time, although maybe occasionally casually with people downtown. and definitely not tobacco- hell no. haha.
there was a night during the sunmer when i dropped some tabs and during the trip i realized i disgust myself. my subconscious was filled with stonerism- porn, food [had a real bad overeating problem due to constant munchies], money, etc. (those were what i focused on alot. the cid brought that before my attention and i knew i had work to do.)

now i know i'll be more sharp to meditate, eat clean and organic, and just live life. before i was too caught up with wanting to be high and listen to music or facebook news feed and never chased girls never really tried to put Myself out there to find a nice girlfriend who i could spend time with and enjoy life with. i was busy always inside within walls.

ironically getting arrested over bullshit has sparked a major change in my life. (there is so much more about my story both past present and future but i'll end it here.) peace and good luck everyone. i love you all.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Super Squid]
    #23799396 - 11/03/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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i love smoking




It's interesting even when we acknowledge the harm something does, we still say "I love it."

Whenever my mind tells me I love to get stoned, I have to snap myself back into reality.


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