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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Kinshino]
    #23471195 - 07/24/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I smoked weed for about 25 years on a daily basis.

Although I knew it made me dull, anxious, and disconnected, I desired it every day (and often still do)

Weed was functional in 2 ways for me . . .

It kept me in a detached trance-like state all day long, as I anticipated a bong hit after work.
No matter what happened during the day, I was able to remain detached to a degree, as
I looked forward to smoking. I was, in a sense, loaded all day, as I waited to get high.

(Anyone who has been hooked on drugs knows this phenomenon)

Also, it dulled my inner emotional world and allowed me to ignore my emotional needs and
also the abuse I experienced as a child. My emotional needs didn't matter when I was stoned.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23509457 - 08/04/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I told my friends I'm not smoking anymore so I'm out of friends now





If friends shun you for not smoking pot, they aren't your friends.

Friendships based only on pot are superficial and not very meaningful.

Great job to see this is a harmful element in your life.

It takes 2 or 3 weeks to feel well after stopping...
When the brain starts to make it's own pleasure producing chemicals again.

Best wishes. Remember to have compassion for yourself.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23515368 - 08/06/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I was never a people person.





BTW, all human interactions are meaningful. I think I came off as an ass there.

If you look deep into the notion, "I'm not a people person" you'll discover fear (AKA anxiety). 

I considered myself a loner and an introvert for several decades until I dealt with my anxiety.
Once I got past that, I became the extrovert I am today. My anxiety kept me from connecting with people.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Rosen_Rot] * 1
    #23522821 - 08/08/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyway I came here to report that I just finished my first week of not smoking pot, well, not entirely true. Yesterday I had a small joint, the same size of a rollie cigarette. I was on my way home, met an aquitance whom I haven't seen in a while, she offered me to smoke so I did cause I was over worked, sleep deprived, depressed, it's the weekend.





Glad you are doing better.

It fascinates me the reasons my mind creates to rationalize intoxication.

Here are a few of the excuses . . .

I deserve a treat.
I feel so sad.
It was a long day.
I need to feel better.
It's a beautiful day.
I need a break from my stress.
I don't want to be rude and turn it down.
I feel happy. Time to celebrate.
Mom and Dad were shit for parents. Fuck them.
It's been a while since I got loaded.
It's nasty weather outside.
I'm in the mood.
I hate my ex-girlfriend.
It's Friday.
I need to calm my nerves.
I have a few days off.
I'd enjoy the concert/movie/party even more if I was high
I need to relax.
I'm bored. I need some excitement.
My life is fucked up.
It's Saturday.
I got fired from my job today.
Sober people annoy me.
I'm so tired.
It's Monday.
I feel edgy. I need to chill out.
My best friend is here!
Loaded people annoy me.
My boss is a dick.
It's Wednesday.
I got a new job. Time to celebrate.
I don't feel normal.
Life is short. Enjoy it to it's fullest.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23526504 - 08/09/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think that is just the human experience though.

We always find some way to rationalise and justify what we do . . .





There's a distinction (if we decide to be aware of it), of an urge that comes from the head or from the heart.

An urge to get high is not equivalent to an urge to be kind to someone.

For me, my craving to get loaded always comes from my head.

For me, self-care, self-compassion, and an open heart, are never part of becoming intoxicated.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23532339 - 08/11/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Rosen_Rot said:

I feel like both of my decisions, to use and stop the use, all come from my head.





Drugs make it difficult or impossible to notice the difference.

It's one reason I crave getting high sometimes. To hide from my heart.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23542238 - 08/14/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

It's one reason I crave getting high sometimes. To hide from my heart.




and to cloud my head from overthinking




Exactly. Our monkey mind is non-stop chatter.

I realized long ago that getting high was a break from the cacophony.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Rosen_Rot] * 1
    #23591278 - 08/29/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think I'll ever get rid of this monkey off of my back.




Addiction is a thinking disorder, where one succumbs to the notion they are powerless and not in control.

Urges come and go. Don't fight them. Let them be. Urge-surfing is how we ride the waves of our urges.

When the pot monkey urges you on, just laugh and reply, "Hi there Pot Monkey! Thanks for saying high!"


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23606576 - 09/02/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I've begun a relationship with a beautiful girl for the first time in 4 years. I smoked with her a couple times but it just made my insecurities even more uncontrollable.




I got high for 25 years. The first time I considered getting stoned caused me to suffer was when I was in bed with a woman.

For the 1st time in a quarter century, I could clearly see that smoking weed inhibited my ability to connect with others.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #23730011 - 10/12/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I now have the conscious ability to check in with how I'm feeling before I actually smoke.



Have you identified your motivation to smoke?

In other words, what are you trying to achieve by getting high?

Every motivation I have to smoke is rooted in escaping my present experience.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23732725 - 10/12/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

For me, the motivation to escape isn't only difficult, negative, or disturbing emotions.

It strange . . .  I believe I sometimes seek to escape positive emotions.

It's interesting people get drunk at weddings and funerals.

I'm happy => time to get loaded....I'm sad => time to get loaded.


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    #23740788 - 10/15/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Focus on improving yourself and then you will forget about weed.



Trying to "improve" myself caused me so much stress, I smoked for relief.

When I abandoned trying to be a "better" person, I was able to break free.

When I accept myself and life totally, without resistance, I can live in peace.

Deep in our heart there is nothing we need to "improve".


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23775240 - 10/26/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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That is a big load of bullshit.

Every one can always improve.




This is the lie we've been taught . . .  It fuels addiction. 

That we are flawed and defective and can "improve" our self.

We believe this steaming pile of crap there's something "wrong" with us

We believe this irrational lie we need to "fix" what is "wrong" with us

The mind of depression is a liar.
The mind of anxiety is a liar.
The mind of addiction is a liar.

Don't believe the crap your mind tries to sell you!!!

Question and challenge your self-hatred... that you need to be "better"!

Self-hatred feels good to the ego, but it's poison for the soul.

Abandon the insane notion that you could be "better".


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23775369 - 10/27/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Right!

The #1 thought of an addict is that something is wrong with you.

The mind of an addict is a liar. Don't believe that crap. You are fine.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23775387 - 10/27/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Anytime we believe we need ______ to be happy, we enter the gates of Hell.

This is the insanity of neurosis (anxiety, depression, addiction, rage, etc)


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: weirdguy32]
    #23775410 - 10/27/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That you shift from one drug to another reveals avoidance is the real goal.

We run and hide from our inner conflicts.

We are not addicted to drugs and alcohol

We are addicted to escape.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Super Squid]
    #23799396 - 11/03/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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i love smoking




It's interesting even when we acknowledge the harm something does, we still say "I love it."

Whenever my mind tells me I love to get stoned, I have to snap myself back into reality.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #23804931 - 11/05/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Rupert says, "The fact the mental expansion has brought about a physical lethargy."

A stoner for 25+ years, I'd debate being stoned is a "mind-expanding" experience.

Don't get me wrong, myself and millions of others have used this as rationale to smoke weed.

But does being stoned really "expand" one's mind, or dull and constrict it?


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #23805085 - 11/05/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So "astonishment" is the reason stoned people "enjoy" doing housework?

When I am high, vacuuming the carpet seems like going to the moon.


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Re: Marijuana Abstinence Support Thread [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #23805136 - 11/05/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A buddy used to tell me smoking weed made simple things seem complex.

He'd boil noodles for dinner, and then act as if he had built the Eiffel Tower.


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